Christians should be supportive of President Trump especially in America

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cobalt1959

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Not sure I could ever support trump for the same reason I do not support criminals or anyone involved in wicked schemes

never did an honest days work

inherited his fortune and tells everyone he is “self made”

never made his taxes public like every other president and something anyone holding a public office should do.

told everyone he supported his own campaign while at the same time advertised for everyone to support his campaign. And his “self” support came from loans given to himself and the loans can be paid back with campaign funds.

He pretty much brought down the USFL all on his own just in an attempt to find a back door loophole into getting a NFL franchise.

Casino owner, do I really need to explain.

Trump university, real estate scam that targeted poor people. He actually had time share salesman hired as instructors.

And as far as being a great business man / CEO I would say he has made some really bad business decisions. Starting a mortgage company in late 2006 after the market was already collapsing, his casinos lose money (how do you lose money with casinos??) and maybe not a terrible failure but a more funny one was “trump steaks” that were sold at sharper image (?) of all places. without the family money trump would have been out of business long time ago.
Well, then who did you vote for in 2016? Let's see if what you type, and what you do are working in unison.
 

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The Left hate Trump. Right now the questionable as to how it was accomplished in the mid-term votes of 2018 Democratic majority in the House are pursuing impeachment hearings.
Sept. 17 Trump impeachment hearing to begin with Corey Lewandowski testimony

And of course the Mueller report is key, but not to those not pressed to fulfill an agenda against our president. The Left want to put a smear on president Trump's record even though they know this circus will never get past the Senate. If it even gets through the House at this point.

I support our president. The career politicians hate him because he's not one himself. He's an idealist, a patriot, a businessman, and a Christian and patriot. Eveything that makes him an enemy of the Left wing on the hill that are the antithesis of all those qualities.
Our First Lady is the most beautiful FLOTUS in our history and yet magazines ignore her and don't do interviews like they did with Michelle Obama. A woman who hated our flag and was non to fond of our country.

The blessed part of all this is, we get to see how those in allegiance with the enemy gather against a man of God. All those scriptures concerning the rule under God and the darkness of Hell that rallies against it happens in real time in America.
Pray for our president and his family. And for our VP Pence and his family. All God fearing people leading a country while battling the forces of evil in their own District of Columbia.

 

Dude653

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Yes Christians should totally support a President Who brags about grabbing woman's genitals it talks about being sexually attracted to his daughter
 

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Your president looks as if he is dragging you into another middle east war with us in the UK on his coat tails. Still as many are looking forward to Armageddon I suppose the old cliche about being careful what you wish for is about to hold true. One thing is certain and that is death doesn't care what political party you voted for.
 
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I think in general President Trump is good for Christians.
I'd go further and say that he is doing God's work , knowingly or otherwise.
Ultimately , he is the most powerful weapon against globalism and socialism which are the enemies of Chistianity.

In common with every one of us, he isn't without sin, but I don't see the media constantly muck raking over the past and personal affairs of people like the Clintons , who I think have a few discreditable aspects too.

In the end, it's what he DOES that determines the answer to the question , rather than the endless personal attacks which the media make upon him.
 

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Why I did not vote for Trump the first time, nor will I this time. Nor did I vote for Clinton, or will I vote for ANY of the Democrats currently running:

(I value my Christian beliefs, and will not sacrifice them for Political gain)

Proverbs 11:2 - [When] pride cometh, then cometh shame: but with the lowly [is] wisdom.

Proverbs 16:5 - Every one [that is] proud in heart [is] an abomination to the LORD: [though] hand [join] in hand, he shall not be unpunished.

Proverbs 29:23 - A man's pride shall bring him low: but honour shall uphold the humble in spirit.

Proverbs 16:18 - Pride [goeth] before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

Galatians 6:3 - For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself.

James 4:6 - But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.

Proverbs 27:2 - Let another man praise thee, and not thine own mouth; a stranger, and not thine own lips.

Proverbs 26:12 - Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? [there is] more hope of a fool than of him.

Philippians 2:3 - [Let] nothing [be done] through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.

Proverbs 8:13 - The fear of the LORD [is] to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

Jeremiah 9:23 - Thus saith the LORD, Let not the wise [man] glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty [man] glory in his might, let not the rich [man] glory in his riches:

1 John 2:16 - For all that [is] in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

Romans 12:16 - [Be] of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.
 

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Why I did not vote for Trump the first time, nor will I this time. Nor did I vote for Clinton, or will I vote for ANY of the Democrats currently running:

(I value my Christian beliefs, and will not sacrifice them for Political gain)

Proverbs 11:2 - [When] pride cometh, then cometh shame: but with the lowly [is] wisdom.

Proverbs 16:5 - Every one [that is] proud in heart [is] an abomination to the LORD: [though] hand [join] in hand, he shall not be unpunished.

Proverbs 29:23 - A man's pride shall bring him low: but honour shall uphold the humble in spirit.

Proverbs 16:18 - Pride [goeth] before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

Galatians 6:3 - For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself.

James 4:6 - But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.

Proverbs 27:2 - Let another man praise thee, and not thine own mouth; a stranger, and not thine own lips.

Proverbs 26:12 - Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? [there is] more hope of a fool than of him.

Philippians 2:3 - [Let] nothing [be done] through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.

Proverbs 8:13 - The fear of the LORD [is] to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

Jeremiah 9:23 - Thus saith the LORD, Let not the wise [man] glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty [man] glory in his might, let not the rich [man] glory in his riches:

1 John 2:16 - For all that [is] in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

Romans 12:16 - [Be] of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.
What human is good enough, moral enough, to garner your vote? Who is this person?

Why wouldn't you simply examine the policies enacted, matching up with what the President ran on?
 
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Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's.
The politics of the temporal world are unimportant in the kingdom of God, and yet within those boundaries, it seems stupid to abstain from whatever small and diminishing influence you can exert through democracy.

We can see that democracy is a lie by looking at the uk ,where the people's vote has been ignored by the same sort of people who want to find excuses to overcome President Trump's election in the USA. They are generally working for evil , and as we know , all they need to succeed is for good men to do nothing.

All politicians are imperfect and most are crooks, but remember " the King of Persia, he is My servant also".

I wonder whether you'd be happy if your policy resulted as it has in England in extreme secularists defying the people, refusing to allow an election and where people are arrested for preaching Christianity in public.
 
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All that goes, too , to the question of the Catholic Church which is so mercilessly attacked by many here. Through history it had often been very political and done many regrettable things, but without these acts , the enemy might well have succeeded in silencing the Christians.
It's important to understand that ,however secondary to the spiritual world, we are living first through a temporal and terrestrial part of our existence , and we have a duty to do what we can to assist the cause of goodness within those parameters during this time
 

p_rehbein

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What human is good enough, moral enough, to garner your vote? Who is this person?

Why wouldn't you simply examine the policies enacted, matching up with what the President ran on?
Duncan Hunter (the younger) from California is my primary choice, but, because he is a Christian, and won't join in with what goes on in D.C., the Good Old Boys will never allow him a chance to be President...……..
 

PennEd

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Duncan Hunter (the younger) from California is my primary choice, but, because he is a Christian, and won't join in with what goes on in D.C., the Good Old Boys will never allow him a chance to be President...……..
You mean THIS guy? Kinda makes my point. That we shouldn't be trusting in a person. We should be voting for policy.

Hearing about start date for Rep. Duncan Hunter criminal trial scheduled for Oct. 7

Rep. Duncan Hunter leaves the courthouse complex after he appeared in Federal Court in San Diego on Sept. 24, 2018, for a status hearing on his criminal case.
(John Gibbins / San Diego Union-Tribune)
The hearing could mean Hunter’s trial date will be delayed for a second time because of an appeal the lawmaker has filed in the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.
By MORGAN COOK
OCT. 1, 2019

12:13 PM
On the heels of a decision by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals to hear arguments in an appeal by Rep. Duncan Hunter in December, the U.S. District Court has scheduled a hearing next week to discuss delaying the start of Hunter’s criminal trial for a second time, according to court records.
The U.S. District Court in San Diego posted notice Tuesday of a hearing scheduled for 9 a.m. Oct. 7 at the federal courthouse in downtown San Diego regarding the start date for Hunter’s criminal trial on a 60-count indictment against the Republican lawmaker from Alpine and his wife and former campaign manager, Margaret Hunter. The couple is accused of spending more than $250,000 in campaign money for personal purposes including getaways with girlfriends, dental work, video games and more.
The notice posted Tuesday did not include any further details about the reason for the hearing next week. The U.S. Attorney’s Office in San Diego and attorneys for Hunter did not immediately respond Tuesday morning to the San Diego Union-Tribune’s request for more information.
Both Duncan and Margaret Hunter pleaded not guilty to all charges when they were arraigned in August 2018. Margaret Hunter changed her plea in June to guilty of a single charge and agreed to testify against her husband. Duncan Hunter continues to fight the indictment.
 

cobalt1959

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Your president looks as if he is dragging you into another middle east war with us in the UK on his coat tails. Still as many are looking forward to Armageddon I suppose the old cliche about being careful what you wish for is about to hold true. One thing is certain and that is death doesn't care what political party you voted for.
How is Trump dragging us into a war with Iran? Iran's actions demand something be done about their aggressions. The UK has no choice in the matter? That would suggest that you have no one competent running the place. Of course, that has been true anyway since Thatcher left office.
 

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What human is good enough, moral enough, to garner your vote? Who is this person?

Why wouldn't you simply examine the policies enacted, matching up with what the President ran on?
Because if you vote for a candidate that supports things such as abortion, you support abortion as well, just as surely as if you were handing out flyers for it on a street corner.
 

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All that goes, too , to the question of the Catholic Church which is so mercilessly attacked by many here. Through history it had often been very political and done many regrettable things, but without these acts , the enemy might well have succeeded in silencing the Christians.
It's important to understand that ,however secondary to the spiritual world, we are living first through a temporal and terrestrial part of our existence , and we have a duty to do what we can to assist the cause of goodness within those parameters during this time
Since the RCC is based on a false premise, and is one-stop-shopping for false doctrine and theology, it deserves to be exposed for what it is. We are supposed to do that. It isn't optional.

Jesus guaranteed us that Satan would not prevail against the church, so your assertion that the Catholic Church somehow kept Christianity alive is false. The RCC doesn't even practice true Christianity. It isn't even close. I know that anyone associated with the RCC would really like for people to forget all about the Inquisition, the RCC's long-running pogroms against Jews and anyone they labeled a heretic. Those people were killed, not because they were doing anything wrong, but because the RCC viewed them as some kind of threat. Then there is burning people at the stake or jailing them for the audacity to possess a Bible. The RCC would still impose it's will on the world by force, if they thought they could do so but they are simply not powerful enough to do so anymore. Religiously, the RCC is second only to Islam in the religious-based amount of death and suffering that the world has suffered at it's hands.
 

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"Unless we are within the 'inner circle' we have not a clue what actually is said or
takes place. The news media has saturated the public with untold 'stories' fabricated
to enhance their ratings. It should be noted that seldom do they interview those that
defend and stand by the president. Media 'brainwashing' is a powerful tool used
by powerful lobbyist that control news media agenda. We are left with our own common
sense and patriotic integrity. Disturbing of all is the 'movement' to remove and stifle our
American heritage. Too much has been sacrificed to allow America to be dismantled and
fragmented by evil forces from within."
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Since the RCC is based on a false premise, and is one-stop-shopping for false doctrine and theology, it deserves to be exposed for what it is. We are supposed to do that. It isn't optional.

Jesus guaranteed us that Satan would not prevail against the church, so your assertion that the Catholic Church somehow kept Christianity alive is false. The RCC doesn't even practice true Christianity. It isn't even close. I know that anyone associated with the RCC would really like for people to forget all about the Inquisition, the RCC's long-running pogroms against Jews and anyone they labeled a heretic. Those people were killed, not because they were doing anything wrong, but because the RCC viewed them as some kind of threat. Then there is burning people at the stake or jailing them for the audacity to possess a Bible. The RCC would still impose it's will on the world by force, if they thought they could do so but they are simply not powerful enough to do so anymore. Religiously, the RCC is second only to Islam in the religious-based amount of death and suffering that the world has suffered at it's hands.

You're very severe in your sectarianism, and there are those who are just as severe in the opposite direction. I support neither sect, both of which disobey the Lord with their pride and earthly priorities.
You don't have to look far back in history to see the fruits of this sort of thing, which has happened quite recently in Ireland with Catholics being murdered by extreme Protestants and the IRA murdering Protestants . Anyone who is tempted to use this difference in Christian Faith to become inflamed should therefore turn away from it.
You could quote historic examples of bigotry , cruelty and murder against Catholics by Protestants too, but that is to perpetuate wrongdoing by constantly carping about long past events and trying to re live them. These events were in any case usually driven by kings and dynasties using the badge of Catholicism or Protestantism as excuses for war or power grabs.

You say that the Catholics don't practise true Christianity and perhaps they would say the same of you. My guess is that you've both got some of it wrong but I know that only God has the answers and that our best hope of learning is through prayer and love of our neighbours.

The word tolerance is bandied about a lot these days, usually by intolerant people, but I think this is a case where true tolerance is called for, together with some humility.
 

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How is Trump dragging us into a war with Iran? Iran's actions demand something be done about their aggressions. The UK has no choice in the matter? That would suggest that you have no one competent running the place. Of course, that has been true anyway since Thatcher left office.
Obama and European leaders made an agreement with Iran. Trump scuppered it. Question is was that really because Iran was secretly
producing more fuel or because it was Obama who set up the agreement ?. Remember Iraq and Saddams weapons of mass destruction
which no one's found to this day. The UK got into that mess which left Iraq devastated and the population on its knees. No doubt there were plenty of people at the time relishing the defeat of Saddam.
 

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Obama and European leaders made an agreement with Iran. Trump scuppered it. Question is was that really because Iran was secretly
producing more fuel or because it was Obama who set up the agreement ?. Remember Iraq and Saddams weapons of mass destruction
which no one's found to this day. The UK got into that mess which left Iraq devastated and the population on its knees. No doubt there were plenty of people at the time relishing the defeat of Saddam.
When muslims murdered 3000 Americans on September 11th 2001, I couldn't find a single person, left, right, center, that didn't want to destroy ALL muslim nations.

THAT was the mindset of the U.S., AND many other nations back then. Trump got rid of obama's and the feckless european agreement, for the same reason he got rid of the awful Paris climate accord. They were GARBAGE.
 

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When muslims murdered 3000 Americans on September 11th 2001, I couldn't find a single person, left, right, center, that didn't want to destroy ALL muslim nations.

THAT was the mindset of the U.S., AND many other nations back then. Trump got rid of obama's and the feckless european agreement, for the same reason he got rid of the awful Paris climate accord. They were GARBAGE.
Hyperbolic comment is hyperbolic