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Moses_Young

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might want to explain what a false flag is. i know what you are saying and how gov.'s gets the citizens to give up their rights, but the cnn/fox news crowd has no idea what that would be....
False flag, as in Port Arther - retarded guy who can barely speak a complex sentence and never fired a gun in his life goes out and buys himself an automatic rifle, and within a few weeks of (alleged) training, kills 30+ people with a shot to kill ratio that few snipers in the world could match, and it all could have been prevented by... banning guns! Lol. :)

That's not to mention the pre-ordered mortuary vehicle/s on standby, the parliamentary speeches made prior to the event saying "We will never have gun control in Australia unless we have a gun massacre" and the well-timed crazy call to the local police that diverted them to the other side of the island whilst the false-flag was occurring.

Sorry if that was a little wordy. Here, I will quote a dictionary.

False flag: a flag flown on a ship to hide which country it comes from or which side it is fighting for.

e.g. A government sponsored massacre (whether real or portrayed) in the guise of a massacre by an intellectually challenged gentleman and an automatic rifle.
 

Magenta

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No. You would never accept a 5 hour wait in a supermarket. Why should a hospital be any different?

This is why Communism doesn't work. Government ruins everything. If you think Communism is superior, you obviously never lived through it, where people were waiting 5 hours (or even days) in supermarkets, because, you guessed it, the government was running those, too.

If the government had to pay people with injuries who had paid tax and were kept waiting in hospital queues (closer to a capitalist system), you can bet the wait times would be faster for these. However, the ideal is not to give the criminals in government any money (i.e. taxes), and then they can't waste it on lazy health workers. (And the non-lazy health workers will make a profit from serving the people who pay them, when they need it, without a 5 hour wait).
The normal wait times in emergency rooms for non-emergencies is five hours. The normal wait time in a supermarket is not, so you are comparing apples with oranges, as they say. For the record, I most certainly do not think communism is superior. People classifying Canada as commie and a socialist nation are simply ignorant. Having social programs does not equal socialism.
 

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First off nobody here has suggested you were or are superior.

For a person who thinks one is supposed to be impressed that you are a follower of Christ for 66 years and expecting you to be mature in the faith to already know your experience is not authoritative. I addition You said, " I choose a better way".
That is a problem when one's way can be better than what Jesus said. Jesus is the one who said " I AM the Way". iN THE ORIGINAL it reads " I am the ONLY WAY". Surely one of your maturity can appreciate the sentiment and resistance to " I Choose a better way"?
Your false assessment of my character is very telling. And if you have Been to Heaven and conversed with God Himself and God told you something outside HIS written word as HE speaks to me and others, you did not speak to God, you were deceived.

I am very confident too I know the Lord God as we all can by three main ways General Revelation = His creation Roman chapter 1

Special Revelation = His written word Pslams 139:4 and by relationship through salvation and the Holy Spirit.

I am no doubting Thomas, however you a man I put no confidence in without verifying.

it is too bad, someone who says they know the Lord as long as you do should be more equipt to edify and deal with criticism what would be able to correct me. You fell short on that.
Yes I have already worked out that anyone who disagrees with you is deceived. And you have made it clear that you are an expert on everything so we must sit at your feet and learn to undo everything that we though was God but in actual fact was the devil leading us up the garden path.

I must go and tell all those that have been healed or released from Satan's power through me that it was all a hoax and that they are a servant of Satan in reality.

And I will have to tell all those great men who taught me that they are deceived and to desist from being used by God or they will go to hell.
 

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The UN is not lost just as the US is not lost just because it had certain leaders who were morally corrupt. The charter is pretty solid and we are a world community so if not the UN we need a worldwide organization. Like it or not tribalism and nationalism are relics of the past. Soon enough we will realize we are all one people.
I did not say it was lost. I said it was a lost cause. That is two different things.

Lost Cause = Something that has no or a very low chance of succeeding or turning out well

Lost = no longer possessed or retained
 

Moses_Young

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The normal wait times in emergency rooms for non-emergencies is five hours. The normal wait time in a supermarket is not, so you are comparing apples with oranges, as they say. For the record, I most certainly do not think communism is superior.
The normal wait times in a Communist system such as Canada, maybe. The normal wait time in a free market system is minimal (like, less than 10 or 15 minutes), because people want to make a living and there is no government holding them up. I know, because I have experienced both.

People classifying Canada as commie and a socialist nation are simply ignorant. Having social programs does not equal socialism.
If you can't accept Canada is a Communist nation, there is little point continuing a conversation, as we cannot agree on foundational definitions. The difference between Socialism and Communism is like the difference between a rapist and a murderer. Both are capital crimes, and the one leads to the other.

This is a big problem with many who live in Communist nations - they don't blame Communism for the problems, because they don't realise they are living in Communism. A thorn by any other name is still a thorn. Hey, probably more than half the world believe Biden won the recent US election. But he's still a Communist, just like Canada, and he will lose (hopefully like Communism in Canada).
 

Butterflyyy

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The poor are deserving of protection and equal rights just as much as the rich. You come of as being very entitled and wealthy and if that is the case God bless you. If you want to label anything that helps people as socialist then go ahead but most people want it.
If most people want it it’s because they don’t realise what it’s really about and they have been also been manipulated/forced into having to want it.
And of course there are always lazy, deceitful people who want to be carried by the State.
 

Butterflyyy

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Judgement starts at the house of God.

Almighty God says this:

“If My people, who are called by my Name,
will humble themselves and pray, and turn from their wicked ways,
I will hear from Heaven and answer them and heal their land.“

Please help us O Lord
 
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The normal wait times in a Communist system such as Canada, maybe. The normal wait time in a free market system is minimal (like, less than 10 or 15 minutes), because people want to make a living and there is no government holding them up. I know, because I have experienced both.

If you can't accept Canada is a Communist nation, there is little point continuing a conversation, as we cannot agree on foundational definitions. The difference between Socialism and Communism is like the difference between a rapist and a murderer. Both are capital crimes, and the one leads to the other.

This is a big problem with many who live in Communist nations - they don't blame Communism for the problems, because they don't realise they are living in Communism. A thorn by any other name is still a thorn. Hey, probably more than half the world believe Biden won the recent US election. But he's still a Communist, just like Canada, and he will lose (hopefully like Communism in Canada).
Just bizarre.

US healthcare is a broken machine except for the insurance minions they seem to be doing well enough.
 

Truth7t7

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The normal wait times in emergency rooms for non-emergencies is five hours. The normal wait time in a supermarket is not, so you are comparing apples with oranges, as they say. For the record, I most certainly do not think communism is superior. People classifying Canada as commie and a socialist nation are simply ignorant. Having social programs does not equal socialism.
When you lose your right to freedom of speech, press, and religion your a commie nation

Canada dosent have any of the above

Speak out against Abortion, homosexuality, immigrants, in the public or press, 2 years jail time

Christian orgs must sign a declaration in agreement with Abortion,to participate in Government programs

Canada Is a Commie Dictatorship,
Keep your mouth shut and obey, and everything will be ok

Magenta you know the info above is true, dont candy coat Trudeau's dictatorship.
 

Magenta

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When you lose your right to freedom of speech, press, and religion your a commie nation

Canada dosent have any of the above

Speak out against Abortion, homosexuality, immigrants, in the public or press, 2 years jail time

Christian orgs must sign a declaration in agreement with Abortion,to participate in Government programs

Canada Is a Commie Dictatorship,
Keep your mouth shut and obey, and everything will be ok

Magenta you know the info above is true, dont candy coat Trudeau's dictatorship.
Hate speech has no redeeming value. Perhaps in your world, freedom comes with no responsibility, but in my world, they must walk hand in hand. Otherwise it is just chaos, and anything goes. Oh, yes, I see that happening in America. It is sad to witness such blatant abuse.

For a prosecution of hate speech to go ahead, all of these conditions must be met:

1. The hate speech must be the most severe of the genre

2. The hate speech must be targeted to an identifiable group

3. It must be public

4. It must be deliberate, not careless

5. Excluded from hate speech are good faith interpretations of religious doctrine,
discussion of issues of public interest, and literary devices like sarcasm and irony


6. The statements must be hateful when considered in their social and historical context

7. No prosecution can proceed without approval of the attorney-general, which introduces
political accountability because the attorney-general is a cabinet minister.
source
 

Truth7t7

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Hate speech has no redeeming value. Perhaps in your world, freedom comes with no responsibility, but in my world, they must walk hand in hand. Otherwise it is just chaos, and anything goes. Oh, yes, I see that happening in America. It is sad to witness such blatant abuse.

For a prosecution of hate speech to go ahead, all of these conditions must be met:

1. The hate speech must be the most severe of the genre

2. The hate speech must be targeted to an identifiable group

3. It must be public

4. It must be deliberate, not careless

5. Excluded from hate speech are good faith interpretations of religious doctrine,
discussion of issues of public interest, and literary devices like sarcasm and irony


6. The statements must be hateful when considered in their social and historical context

7. No prosecution can proceed without approval of the attorney-general, which introduces
political accountability because the attorney-general is a cabinet minister.
source
Your claims are silenced in the info below,a christian us arrested, while homosexuals wear depictions of jesus Christon their crotch without arrest? Sodom & Gomorrah

The Federalist

Canadian Bus Driver Arrested For Criticizing Homosexuality, Faces Up To 2 Years In Prison
The Canadian attorney general issued a nationwide warrant to catch a man who distributed 3,000 provocative fliers at an event where others proudly wore silhouettes of Christ on their crotches.

By Jeremiah Keenan

Last week a nationwide criminal arrest warrant was put out on a 51-year-old Canadian named Bill Whatcott. Whatcott was in the Canadian oil sands at the time, driving a bus to support his family. It was a rough job—temporary work in remote, far-north Canada—but the only employment he could find just then to support his family of four.

Whatcott was wanted in Toronto to be charged with “Wilful Promotion of Hatred against an identifiable group, namely the gay community.” The basis for this charge? In 2016 Whatcott had distributed “safe sex” pamphlets at a gay pride parade.
 

Truth7t7

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Hate speech has no redeeming value. Perhaps in your world, freedom comes with no responsibility, but in my world, they must walk hand in hand. Otherwise it is just chaos, and anything goes. Oh, yes, I see that happening in America. It is sad to witness such blatant abuse.

For a prosecution of hate speech to go ahead, all of these conditions must be met:

1. The hate speech must be the most severe of the genre

2. The hate speech must be targeted to an identifiable group

3. It must be public

4. It must be deliberate, not careless

5. Excluded from hate speech are good faith interpretations of religious doctrine,
discussion of issues of public interest, and literary devices like sarcasm and irony


6. The statements must be hateful when considered in their social and historical context

7. No prosecution can proceed without approval of the attorney-general, which introduces
political accountability because the attorney-general is a cabinet minister.
source
Mississauga man charged with hate crime over alleged online comments

  • Jul 24, 2017
  • News Staff and The Canadian Press


Kevin Johnston speaks to media outside a Brampton courthouse on Monday, July 24, 2017. Johnston was arrested for willful promotion of hatred under section 3192) of the criminal code.
This story has been edited due to a publication ban.
A Mississauga man has been charged with a hate crime after police allege he made a number of statements against the Muslim community online.
 

Magenta

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Your claims are silenced in the info below,a christian us arrested, while homosexuals wear depictions of jesus Christon their crotch without arrest? Sodom & Gomorrah

The Federalist

Canadian Bus Driver Arrested For Criticizing Homosexuality, Faces Up To 2 Years In Prison
The Canadian attorney general issued a nationwide warrant to catch a man who distributed 3,000 provocative fliers at an event where others proudly wore silhouettes of Christ on their crotches.

By Jeremiah Keenan

Last week a nationwide criminal arrest warrant was put out on a 51-year-old Canadian named Bill Whatcott. Whatcott was in the Canadian oil sands at the time, driving a bus to support his family. It was a rough job—temporary work in remote, far-north Canada—but the only employment he could find just then to support his family of four.

Whatcott was wanted in Toronto to be charged with “Wilful Promotion of Hatred against an identifiable group, namely the gay community.” The basis for this charge? In 2016 Whatcott had distributed “safe sex” pamphlets at a gay pride parade.
From your link:

Whatcott had already been taken to court for the pamphlets in question in a civil (not criminal) lawsuit. Back in August 2016, well-known Canadian homosexual activist and lawyer Douglas Elliott brought a civil class-action case for $104 million against Whatcott and all those who might have helped him in making or distributing his “safe sex” pamphlets at the 2016 Toronto gay pride parade. Elliott sought as a top priority “an injunction shutting down Mr. Whatcott’s evil website and any links on any other websites to that website.”

Elliott’s somewhat extraordinary class-based tort ended up floundering in court last spring, and Whatcott’s website, as well as the pamphlets on it, remained online. Thus, it is unclear why one year after the civil lawsuit lost momentum, and two years after the event, the Canadian attorney general felt a sudden need to issue a nationwide criminal warrant to catch a man who distributed 3,000 provocative fliers at an event where others were applauded for wearing a silhouette of Christ on their crotches.

None of that amounts to Canada being a commie nation as you repeatedly ignorantly claim.
 

Truth7t7

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From your link:

Whatcott had already been taken to court for the pamphlets in question in a civil (not criminal) lawsuit. Back in August 2016, well-known Canadian homosexual activist and lawyer Douglas Elliott brought a civil class-action case for $104 million against Whatcott and all those who might have helped him in making or distributing his “safe sex” pamphlets at the 2016 Toronto gay pride parade. Elliott sought as a top priority “an injunction shutting down Mr. Whatcott’s evil website and any links on any other websites to that website.”

Elliott’s somewhat extraordinary class-based tort ended up floundering in court last spring, and Whatcott’s website, as well as the pamphlets on it, remained online. Thus, it is unclear why one year after the civil lawsuit lost momentum, and two years after the event, the Canadian attorney general felt a sudden need to issue a nationwide criminal warrant to catch a man who distributed 3,000 provocative fliers at an event where others were applauded for wearing a silhouette of Christ on their crotches.

None of that amounts to Canada being a commie nation as you repeatedly ignorantly claim.
The guy was arrested for handing out pamphlets, while homosexuals adorned their crothes with images of Jesus Christ,you donthavea problem with religious hatred do you? Smiles

I can post several arrest in Canada, for basic free speech issues, ill spare you

Trudeau's Communist Dictatorship
 

Magenta

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The guy was arrested for handing out pamphlets, while homosexuals adorned their crothes with images of Jesus Christ,you donthavea problem with religious hatred do you? Smiles

I can post several arrest in Canada, for basic free speech issues, ill spare you

Trudeau's Communist Dictatorship
Repeating your ignorant statements ad nauseum does not make them true :geek:
 

Truth7t7

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Repeating your ignorant statements ad nauseum does not make them true:geek:
The only ignorance on display, is a person believing Canada has freedom of speech, the presss, and religion :)

It has none of the above, its a tightly controlled leftist dictatorship, promoting the likes of Sodom & Gomorrah, (Abortion) (Homosexuality)