Cruz gets boo'd off stage

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Disingenuous again. You cannot tell me you got all that about me from this board. You can't even tell what you "know" about me truthfully.

From the beginning, Carnac, I wanted Jeb Bush. By the time the primaries hit this state, I picked Cruz for the same reason I've been voting for POTUS candidates since 1988 -- "lesser of two evils." I didn't even dig enough into Cruz to know if he is or isn't a Christian. And, I don't really care! 44 years of politicians suddenly being all concerned about "pro life" and going to church right before the election only to do nothing about it their entire career taught me not to count on any politician being "a Christian." I'm not that type of gullible.

And yet you went for who you THINK I am to Willie based on what? Certainly not this board. Don't come here often enough to figure out who I am. So that whole "I go dig up your yard full of skeletons to use against you" was your latest I'm-the-only-one-who-is-humbly-truthful-and-everyone-else-is-stupid bit. I'm not that kind of gullible either.

BTW, I've exposed my skeletons often enough the yard is fine. I don't have skeletons because I tell people about them. I have no intention of playing the part for your approval. I'm into being real, especially with the bros. If we are stuck playing a part for different audiences, (and little did I know we were supposed to be playing different parts in each forum too -- never got that memo), there is no purpose for bros. And it certainly isn't a positive spin on nonbelievers.

Bitter doesn't look good on you. You're certainly not the honest Christian I thought you were, that's for sure. I've said it before and I'll say it again, you need a good Christian to talk to and be real with. Someone to help you in real life, because this bitterness is just getting worse and worse. I remember when you were a good guy. Haven't seen that guy for quite some time. My hubby went through the same thing and may well have stayed there, except he did get help from his Christian friends. They stuck by him even in his self-destructive phase. There is life again.
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You really need to quit crying and own up to your mistake. Lol
 
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I think you missed all of this. Cruz owed no apology. But in NOT disavowing that photo, he was saying that he agreed with it being broadcast, and that he probably wished it had been his idea.

Trump warned everyone, right from the first days, that if they hit him, he was going to immediately hit them back in the same manner. (That is one of the things that will prove to be very necessary in future presidents, and something Obama has been afraid to do... and I imagine Hillary will follow in his cowardly footsteps.)
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So attacking someone who didn't even do the initial attack is something you think is necessary? That is essentially what you're saying in reference to the nude Melania meme that Make America Awesome put out.

Also, to my knowledge (and I may be wrong), none of the other candidates disavowed it either. Does this authorize Trump to unleash his wrath on everyone's spouse?

Even in the old covenant this wouldn't constitute an eye-for-an-eye because Cruz wasn't the one who did this in the first place.
 
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So attacking someone who didn't even do the initial attack is something you think is necessary? That is essentially what you're saying in reference to the nude Melania meme that Make America Awesome put out.

Also, to my knowledge (and I may be wrong), none of the other candidates disavowed it either. Does this authorize Trump to unleash his wrath on everyone's spouse?

Even in the old covenant this wouldn't constitute an eye-for-an-eye because Cruz wasn't the one who did this in the first place.
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What's best for the country?

IMO it's putting egos aside and joining together in order to beat our adversary. That's a no-brainer.
 
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I guess you could say Ted was CRUZing for a bruising lol... I thought it was hilarious that they shouted Goldman Sachs to his wife....( I don't agree if they tried to assault her but who knows if the media is telling the truth?) Either way it shows how much the American People hate big banks especially criminal ones like GS who ate bailout money and left the public hanging with the bill.
 
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So attacking someone who didn't even do the initial attack is something you think is necessary? That is essentially what you're saying in reference to the nude Melania meme that Make America Awesome put out.

Also, to my knowledge (and I may be wrong), none of the other candidates disavowed it either. Does this authorize Trump to unleash his wrath on everyone's spouse?

Even in the old covenant this wouldn't constitute an eye-for-an-eye because Cruz wasn't the one who did this in the first place.
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As if Trump will ever not unleash on whomever? That's exactly why he would make a lousy President. He's left a trail of self-serving lash outs at mostly women -- from heads of state, to celebrities, to newspeople.

Everyone keeps saying what a great negotiator he is. Yeah? Like he negotiated that speech from Cruz? You take the low road and don't expect those on any other road to ever want to meet you. And when everyone is watching you repeat, don't expect the trust it takes to even come to the table.
 
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As if Trump will ever not unleash on whomever? That's exactly why he would make a lousy President. He's left a trail of self-serving lash outs at mostly women -- from heads of state, to celebrities, to newspeople.

Everyone keeps saying what a great negotiator he is. Yeah? Like he negotiated that speech from Cruz? You take the low road and don't expect those on any other road to ever want to meet you. And when everyone is watching you repeat, don't expect the trust it takes to even come to the table.
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Sounds like you just described the average mega church pastor.
 
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I guess you could say Ted was CRUZing for a bruising lol... I thought it was hilarious that they shouted Goldman Sachs to his wife....( I don't agree if they tried to assault her but who knows if the media is telling the truth?) Either way it shows how much the American People hate big banks especially criminal ones like GS who ate bailout money and left the public hanging with the bill.
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Hating banks isn't an American trait. It's a liberal trait. That's the scary part. Conservatives know Big Business is good for all of us. So attacking Big Business during a Republican Convention shows how far off the term "Republican" has been changed.
 
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Hating banks isn't an American trait. It's a liberal trait. That's the scary part. Conservatives know Big Business is good for all of us. So attacking Big Business during a Republican Convention shows how far off the term "Republican" has been changed.
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Maybe do a little reading up on what the founding fathers thought of the all powerful central bank.
 
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What's best for the country?

IMO it's putting egos aside and joining together in order to beat our adversary. That's a no-brainer.
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We agree 100% here. But isn't putting ego aside require Trump to apologize for assuming guilt and attacking Heidi?
 
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If I were to back you with something job related but then you started taking ugly shots at family, then yeah. I would change my mind. Don't act all high and mighty when you've said one thing but later on changed your mind about it. Family is important. I have morals and principles I won't bend. Don't like my opinion? Too bad. If Trump's feelings are hurt cause of Cruz going back on what he said, then maybe Trump shouldn't be running. Cause a lot worse has been said, and will continue to be said.
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It was not a pledge between Trump and Cruz ..it was a pledge Cruz made to the people who was voting in the republican primary in order to assure they would be no split in the party...Cruz promised the people NOT TRUMP ! And it was not Trumps idea to begin with it was Cruz and the others idea.
 
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It was not a pledge between Trump and Cruz ..it was a pledge Cruz made to the people who was voting in the republican primary in order to assure they would be no split in the party...Cruz promised the people NOT TRUMP ! And it was not Trumps idea to begin with it was Cruz and the others idea.
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Yeah Cruz lost me if he runs again. He isn't a man of his word.
 
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another possible reason why Cruz did not endorse Trump:



 
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Someone will have to explain to me when precisely Cruz said not to support the Republican nominee. He didn't express disloyalty toward the party and urged people to rally against Clinton. Just because

I have to add, if you consider yourself a conservative in the good old, small government, American sense then you have to be honest with yourself in admitting that Trump isn't a reliable vector for our ideals. He's a wildcard. And whether Trump or Clinton are elected, you'll be glad to have Cruz in your corner when the executive branch is not focusing on welfare reform.
 
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Anticipating blowback- I've been consistent in my dismissal of Trump as a crazy moderate.

My vote is going to him because I think he has some conservative inclinations and has personal qualities which make him malleable with the correct sort of political pressure.
 
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I have to add, if you consider yourself a conservative in the good old, small government, American sense then you have to be honest with yourself in admitting that Trump isn't a reliable vector for our ideals.
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i agree...and this is one of my big reasons for not voting for trump...he wants to expand the government just like obama...
 
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Maybe do a little reading up on what the founding fathers thought of the all powerful central bank.
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Maybe consider I live in Philadelphia. Both the first and second are part of my scenery. The story beats some broken bell.
 
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