Cruz gets boo'd off stage
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Donald Trump: "Lyin' Ted Cruz just used a picture of Melania from a G.Q. shoot in his ad. Be careful, Lyin' Ted, or I will spill the beans on your wife!"
Ted Cruz: "Pic of your wife not from us. Donald, if you try to attack Heidi, you're more of a coward than I thought."
I suppose after Trump threatened Cruz's wife, Cruz should have said, "Donald, I'm sorry Make America Awesome made that meme. Just know that my campaign has no affiliation with that group as the text at the bottom of the meme states."
That would take a big person to do that. I'm not sure I could be that polite when I was unfairly accused of an despicable act I didn't commit and was threatened. Many people would probably think Cruz was weak if he apologized for something he didn't do while Trump threatens his wife.
My guess is that Donald still wouldn't believe Cruz when he apologizes and states he had no involvement and continue with his assault on Heidi.
Ted Cruz: "Pic of your wife not from us. Donald, if you try to attack Heidi, you're more of a coward than I thought."
I suppose after Trump threatened Cruz's wife, Cruz should have said, "Donald, I'm sorry Make America Awesome made that meme. Just know that my campaign has no affiliation with that group as the text at the bottom of the meme states."
That would take a big person to do that. I'm not sure I could be that polite when I was unfairly accused of an despicable act I didn't commit and was threatened. Many people would probably think Cruz was weak if he apologized for something he didn't do while Trump threatens his wife.
My guess is that Donald still wouldn't believe Cruz when he apologizes and states he had no involvement and continue with his assault on Heidi.
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Would you immediately disavow something someone else did after you were wrongfully accused of making the meme and your wife was threatened? If so, I can easily say you're a much better man than me.
I could easily disavow an act if the person didn't threaten me or assume guilt. I would just say, "Excuse me?! I didn't do this..." Then when my head was cooler, I would re-open dialogue and express my condolences that Melania was attacked and further reaffirm my innocence is not being involved with the meme. But you do realize Trump didn't really wait to attack Heidi, yeah?
I could easily disavow an act if the person didn't threaten me or assume guilt. I would just say, "Excuse me?! I didn't do this..." Then when my head was cooler, I would re-open dialogue and express my condolences that Melania was attacked and further reaffirm my innocence is not being involved with the meme. But you do realize Trump didn't really wait to attack Heidi, yeah?
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I'm not sure what "attention span" has to do your point that Cruz didn't disavow something Make America Awesome did immediately after Trump accused him of doing it and cyber attacking Heidi.
You made a point (that Cruz didn't disavow it), and I responded by saying if I was Cruz and was accused of doing something I didn't do, followed immediately by a cyber attack on my wife, apologizing wouldn't be one of the first things I would do.
I asked if you would apologize for what someone else did after you were wrongfully accused, threatened, and your wife was attacked; not whose fault it is for society's short attention span.
You made a point (that Cruz didn't disavow it), and I responded by saying if I was Cruz and was accused of doing something I didn't do, followed immediately by a cyber attack on my wife, apologizing wouldn't be one of the first things I would do.
I asked if you would apologize for what someone else did after you were wrongfully accused, threatened, and your wife was attacked; not whose fault it is for society's short attention span.
I think you missed all of this. Cruz owed no apology. But in NOT disavowing that photo, he was saying that he agreed with it being broadcast, and that he probably wished it had been his idea.
Trump warned everyone, right from the first days, that if they hit him, he was going to immediately hit them back in the same manner. (That is one of the things that will prove to be very necessary in future presidents, and something Obama has been afraid to do... and I imagine Hillary will follow in his cowardly footsteps.)
Trump warned everyone, right from the first days, that if they hit him, he was going to immediately hit them back in the same manner. (That is one of the things that will prove to be very necessary in future presidents, and something Obama has been afraid to do... and I imagine Hillary will follow in his cowardly footsteps.)
I think you miss the point. The American electorate is a bit slow on the uptake and easily distracted. Can you say NFL, NBA, FOX, NBC, CBS? The point is and Willie made it pretty clear that Trump understands that "we" want to be "entertained" and he does it better than anyone. The media wants to ignore him but he makes them too much money...lol. They are stuck between a rock and hard place...the love of money and the love of globalism. This is why I've liked Trump from the beginning because I knew he would rip the beating heart out of the propaganda machine and show it in all its black beating glory for everyone to see. Lol.
And to answer your question...it doesn't matter what I would do....I'm not a politician. You gotta be smart and 12 steps ahead to win elections and Cruz just showed that he is 4 steps behind Trump. Lol.
Cruz realized that his political career is at the four yard line after someone contorted his strategic philosophy and deployed it against him.
His convention speech was more or less a Hail Mary to be remembered as a national political figure in the future and position himself to be Trump's main political antagonist should Trump A. win and B. enact more liberal policy.
Cruz is 10 steps ahead of almost everyone in his head. His problem is that his political calculation is too obvious. He also lacks the ability to show rather than tell. Trump, on the other hand, is a show.
Lest people forget, I'm a Cruz loyalist who would prefer he be the one to take the oath of office in January. It's the reason why I am so critical of him on a few points.
His convention speech was more or less a Hail Mary to be remembered as a national political figure in the future and position himself to be Trump's main political antagonist should Trump A. win and B. enact more liberal policy.
Cruz is 10 steps ahead of almost everyone in his head. His problem is that his political calculation is too obvious. He also lacks the ability to show rather than tell. Trump, on the other hand, is a show.
Lest people forget, I'm a Cruz loyalist who would prefer he be the one to take the oath of office in January. It's the reason why I am so critical of him on a few points.
Trump is many things. I think I should explain that in the "what do you think will happen?" thread.
Rather than that, I'll take exception to the idea Cruz is a political novice. Just considering what he accomplished in Texas. To wack Dewhurst and then move on and win the general like he did (as a relative nobody), it took incredible discipline and political skill. More so than most insurgent candidates because Dewhurst was so popular and Texas was so vast.
Everyone has their weaknesses though. Cruz makes his brilliantly drafted strategic plans obvious, but fumbles because he is too openly calculative. It's part of the reason why I think his speech was so poorly received at convention- people were not listening to the words- they were watching the calculation.
Rather than that, I'll take exception to the idea Cruz is a political novice. Just considering what he accomplished in Texas. To wack Dewhurst and then move on and win the general like he did (as a relative nobody), it took incredible discipline and political skill. More so than most insurgent candidates because Dewhurst was so popular and Texas was so vast.
Everyone has their weaknesses though. Cruz makes his brilliantly drafted strategic plans obvious, but fumbles because he is too openly calculative. It's part of the reason why I think his speech was so poorly received at convention- people were not listening to the words- they were watching the calculation.
Ya....you definitely cannot be openly calculating and be liked while doing it. Trump has it down to a science......he crams and studies and then goes by memory.....Lol. That's why he gets it wrong sometimes in the wording. Lol. But people love him for it. It's authentic...or at least comes across that way.
Get your eyes back on Jesus Christ the LORD.
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Disingenuous again. You cannot tell me you got all that about me from this board. You can't even tell what you "know" about me truthfully.
From the beginning, Carnac, I wanted Jeb Bush. By the time the primaries hit this state, I picked Cruz for the same reason I've been voting for POTUS candidates since 1988 -- "lesser of two evils." I didn't even dig enough into Cruz to know if he is or isn't a Christian. And, I don't really care! 44 years of politicians suddenly being all concerned about "pro life" and going to church right before the election only to do nothing about it their entire career taught me not to count on any politician being "a Christian." I'm not that type of gullible.
And yet you went for who you THINK I am to Willie based on what? Certainly not this board. Don't come here often enough to figure out who I am. So that whole "I go dig up your yard full of skeletons to use against you" was your latest I'm-the-only-one-who-is-humbly-truthful-and-everyone-else-is-stupid bit. I'm not that kind of gullible either.
BTW, I've exposed my skeletons often enough the yard is fine. I don't have skeletons because I tell people about them. I have no intention of playing the part for your approval. I'm into being real, especially with the bros. If we are stuck playing a part for different audiences, (and little did I know we were supposed to be playing different parts in each forum too -- never got that memo), there is no purpose for bros. And it certainly isn't a positive spin on nonbelievers.
Bitter doesn't look good on you. You're certainly not the honest Christian I thought you were, that's for sure. I've said it before and I'll say it again, you need a good Christian to talk to and be real with. Someone to help you in real life, because this bitterness is just getting worse and worse. I remember when you were a good guy. Haven't seen that guy for quite some time. My hubby went through the same thing and may well have stayed there, except he did get help from his Christian friends. They stuck by him even in his self-destructive phase. There is life again.
From the beginning, Carnac, I wanted Jeb Bush. By the time the primaries hit this state, I picked Cruz for the same reason I've been voting for POTUS candidates since 1988 -- "lesser of two evils." I didn't even dig enough into Cruz to know if he is or isn't a Christian. And, I don't really care! 44 years of politicians suddenly being all concerned about "pro life" and going to church right before the election only to do nothing about it their entire career taught me not to count on any politician being "a Christian." I'm not that type of gullible.
And yet you went for who you THINK I am to Willie based on what? Certainly not this board. Don't come here often enough to figure out who I am. So that whole "I go dig up your yard full of skeletons to use against you" was your latest I'm-the-only-one-who-is-humbly-truthful-and-everyone-else-is-stupid bit. I'm not that kind of gullible either.
BTW, I've exposed my skeletons often enough the yard is fine. I don't have skeletons because I tell people about them. I have no intention of playing the part for your approval. I'm into being real, especially with the bros. If we are stuck playing a part for different audiences, (and little did I know we were supposed to be playing different parts in each forum too -- never got that memo), there is no purpose for bros. And it certainly isn't a positive spin on nonbelievers.
Bitter doesn't look good on you. You're certainly not the honest Christian I thought you were, that's for sure. I've said it before and I'll say it again, you need a good Christian to talk to and be real with. Someone to help you in real life, because this bitterness is just getting worse and worse. I remember when you were a good guy. Haven't seen that guy for quite some time. My hubby went through the same thing and may well have stayed there, except he did get help from his Christian friends. They stuck by him even in his self-destructive phase. There is life again.