Do You Hate Trump so Much You're Willing to let Biden/Harris Destroy America?

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ThereRoseaLamb

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Aurora has known about this for some time:

https://www.coloradopolitics.com/ne...cle_26b7d53e-d0d0-5bba-a6ce-095ef4e4c5f6.html

Much of the crime that goes on isn't reported. This is the new Democrat talking point that "crime is going down." It's not going down, it's just that much of it not reported or prosecuted.

Like I said to our resident troll, you can sing whatever song you think will put people to sleep, but they know what they are experiencing where they are. Talking points and screaming joy, joy, doesn't change that.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Ahh, yes you are correct in context he was speaking about a baby born with severe deformities.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/31/politics/ralph-northam-third-trimester-abortion/index.html

Well this has been going on for many years as a parent once told me that her son born with severe hydrocephalus (before they could test for it in utero) once he was born, she was asked if she would like to refrain from medical saving procedures and let him die in a corner somewhere.

Having stated this, I remember reading about when an abortion is not successful and the termination of life even postpartum, I do know that Kermit Gosnell (West Philidelphia) was guilty of this and was sent to prison.
Excellent movie btw!

Thanks for finding that.
According to Drs I've studied under, those tests are often inaccurate. I look at the source (MDs aka Murder Doctors) and add their motives for financial gain (ie C Sections, $ for dismembering children) and say, home births with a good experienced mid wife is the best option if I were married.
 

mailmandan

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Aurora has known about this for some time:

https://www.coloradopolitics.com/ne...cle_26b7d53e-d0d0-5bba-a6ce-095ef4e4c5f6.html

Much of the crime that goes on isn't reported. This is the new Democrat talking point that "crime is going down." It's not going down, it's just that much of it not reported or prosecuted.
I often hear liberals/democrats say that crime is down but I have highly suspected that much of the crime that goes on isn't being reported and soft on crime policies have led to less prosecutions. That fit's the narrative. Democrats are very crafty!
 

cv5

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Yes I think most people on CC are in agreement with what you have stated, there are some that seem died hard loyalists, but I was thinking of some people on X who cannot find any fault with him and absolutely seem to adore him.

Trump has aged, he does not have the same quick responses, and I really do not know why he and his team are making all these tactical errors.

These obvious bias and un-professionalism of ABC as moderators my yet backfire on them and on Harris, I do hope so just on principle!!!
Trumps problem is thus: in the crevasses of his mind, he seeks affirmation. Everything is a popularity contest. Not necessarily bad, but not from his adversaries and enemies. Like the moderators.

I would have put them in their place just as you say. But somewhat more deftly, then I would have taken command of the situation.
And Kamalatov would be in total meltdown on the hotline to her therapist and voodoo priestess.
 

JayBird

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/othe...-czar-despite-recent-media-claims/ar-BB1qC2XX


Harris was the second woman chosen as border czar by the president.

After 100 days on the job, Roberta Jacobson, President Joe Biden’s first border czar, left the role on April 9, 2021, after already “grappling with large increases of migrants attempting to cross into the U.S.,” The Los Angeles Times reported, saying, “Biden’s border czar … is stepping down.”

Biden announced in a March 24, 2021, news conference that Harris would be responsible for addressing the southwest border surge that already began within days of him taking office. “I can think of nobody who's better qualified to do this than the former” California attorney general, Biden said.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...999ff6-8cce-11eb-a6bd-0eb91c03305a_story.html

https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...is-to-lead-on-immigration-amid-border-crisis/

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kamala-harris-border-migration_n_605b7351c5b67593e054e3a0


Get past the 10 pages that this year insist on lying about Harris, you will see even liberal Axios called her border czar. Which they are now trying to lie and hide.

Good enough?!!
First, I appreciate you taking the time to provide links and sources. Thank you.

Second, the articles state what I described earlier, namely that Harris was tasked with looking into the root causes of migration and establishing strategic relationships with some Central and South American countries. But none of them show where the White House gave her the title of "Border Czar" or referred to her as such.

As you noted, one media outlet did refer to her as a "Border Czar" but hopefully we agree that that's not an official designation, title, or job description.

So overall, Harris was not designated by the White House as a "Border Czar", nor was she given that title by any government entity. A media outlet referred to her as such.

Thanks again.
 

JayBird

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Yeah I would be angry too if I had to debate the moderators and my opponent.
They gave him 9 more minutes than Harris and repeatedly allowed him to speak out of turn, and even turned his mic back on so he could do so.
 

JayBird

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LOL ... you think the other side is going to bring civility and thoughtful dialogue and debate?
I'm hoping that all of us can do that. We're certainly capable.

I dislike Trump because of who owns him and make no mistake is owned and will do their bidding when the time comes, perhaps naively because he is not well read and rather simple minded on some things, but I do see his populist movement as somewhat of an attempt to reverse course on what has caused the decline of these united states of America.
I think a lot of people are fed up with what has effectively become an oligarchy (rule by the rich). Over my lifetime, too many government policies were geared towards the super rich and large corporations (mostly under the "trickle down economics" belief), which didn't deliver the results as promised. It just made the rich richer, put most of the country's wealth in the pockets of the 1%, favored enormous corporations at the expense of small businesses, and stagnated the middle class.

I very much doubt billionaire Trump and his venture capitalist VP Vance are the people to reverse that trend. During his last term, he actually furthered the oligarchy by giving huge tax breaks to billionaires and corporations, and stacking his Cabinet with Wall St. execs. And this time around he's promising even more!

So yes I agree, a lot of regular Americans are frustrated. Is the solution to give more money to billionaires and corporations? Not in my view.
 

Nehemiah6

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He's a pretend Christian.
Makes no difference. Voters are wanting good governance, and even a "pretend Christian" can do that.

Trump is not totally clear about his religious beliefs, but Biden and Harris are perfectly clear. Their religion is godless Communism. Why not focus on that?
 

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I often hear liberals/democrats say that crime is down but I have highly suspected that much of the crime that goes on isn't being reported and soft on crime policies have led to less prosecutions. That fit's the narrative. Democrats are very crafty!
good morning, Dan. what's happening is we're seeing Cloward and Piven play out in real time before our very eyes.

overwhelm the system, create chaos, force a political crisis. it's being done very effectively, stealthily, and yes, craftily, and most of us don't appear to realize it.

this is what Mr. Obama meant by "fundamental transformation". if the Lord doesn't, in some way, put a stop to it, i believe it will be the end of the Republic.
 

HeIsHere

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I think a lot of people are fed up with what has effectively become an oligarchy (rule by the rich). Over my lifetime, too many government policies were geared towards the super rich and large corporations (mostly under the "trickle down economics" belief), which didn't deliver the results as promised. It just made the rich richer, put most of the country's wealth in the pockets of the 1%, favored enormous corporations at the expense of small businesses, and stagnated the middle class.
Trickle down economics is not a theory in economics.

As well, that is not how corporations became richer or how people became super rich either.
I am not noticing you are sometimes economical with reality.
 

ZNP

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Trickle down economics is not a theory in economics.

As well, that is not how corporations became richer or how people became super rich either.
I am not noticing you are sometimes economical with reality.
No it is an engineering theory used by Sanitation engineers. It is also called the number one theory or the tinkle down theory.
 

HeIsHere

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They gave him 9 more minutes than Harris and repeatedly allowed him to speak out of turn, and even turned his mic back on so he could do so.
He should have been given more time to put down her lies and distortions and the moderator's fake fact checking.
 

cv5

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good morning, Dan. what's happening is we're seeing Cloward and Piven play out in real time before our very eyes.

overwhelm the system, create chaos, force a political crisis. it's being done very effectively, stealthily, and yes, craftily, and most of us don't appear to realize it.

this is what Mr. Obama meant by "fundamental transformation". if the Lord doesn't, in some way, put a stop to it, i believe it will be the end of the Republic.
Bingo. You got it buddy.

Concordantly, we have the embedded insurrectionist propogandists to spur on the mayhem and sow discord and confusion.

We all know which posters I am referring to now don't we. No need to name names.
 

cv5

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He should have been given more time to put down her lies and distortions and the moderator's fake fact checking.
As I have already posted several times, the debate was a set-up and scam from the start.
And as usual, @JayBird is rushing to the defense of the conspirators and bad actors.

He always does. You know.....bad trees and all of that.

Mat 7:17
“Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.