Donald Trump disrespects fallen soldier

[Depleted]

Here we go with that Liberal mess again, talk about division. The people that I was responding to in this thread was not showing any empathy. They were not trying to understand and share the feelings of another, you know empathy. Nice try though

You gave no room for it. You declared they could not understand. What's different between you and them? Even the "But I'm right and the other person is wrong" is the same thought going on in both minds. You've actually fallen for the con game, but not the one you think you're in.

Right, "Liberal mess." Just like "You are not black," you again assume no one can understand liberalism unless they are. Same game, different phrase.

The person you're talking to? Sure, she is all about what she thinks. Never thinking about anything else but expressing her opinion, which also usually includes insulting someone else in a passive-aggressive way. Where as you? You sometimes think beyond yourself. You really aren't passive-aggressive. AND, when you're not bent out of shape in anger at other people, (which you usually aren't), you listen. SO, I bring this up to teach you something of debate/logic/discussion tactics.

I don't talk to her, because talking to her is less effective than talking to a wall. BUT you listen.

I'm not out to change your mind on your political or social-justice opinions. I'm out to let you hear what it's coming across like and why it's not working. If you want to change someone's mind, come at her/him well armed with facts and figures proven out. Come at what you see as a general rule and what you're thinking when you see it. Come up with a better plan and a possible way of implementing it. Come up with something concrete.

Because "You are not black" doesn't work. The empathy thing was to show why it doesn't work. It is a trick used when facts do not.

Yes, she's doing all her tricks, but when a debate turns into one side presents reality and the other side balks and whine to prove a point, even if the balker thinks she won? Everyone watching knows which side works.

I was telling you why "You are not black" doesn't work, so you would try better tactics. Truthfully, this subject is so old, and most sides have taken to attack rather than present facts and ideas for so long, I honestly didn't bother finding out what side you were on. I've only read the last page of this, and not even that since the one you're arguing with the most is ignored by me. That's my answer to those-who-argue-just-to-argue.

BUT you aren't them, or I wouldn't have said anything to you.

I am trying to change your mind -- but on how to debate something better. Not on what is being debated. And I do that because you have empathy!

You're using her tactics, and you're using them because she tricked you into it by getting you angry enough to stoop that low with her. Truth be known, she's enjoying the spotlight and you're just getting angrier and angrier, and so, giving her more spotlight.

I can't say we're good friends, but I know you well enough to know doing this is getting to you, so wanted to show you why.

Breathe! Think it out! Pray! And see if God doesn't have a better way than just slinging back the mud you've been hit with.

(And, yeah. It really does bother me that the sides have been divided into places that should never have been division. This country is NOT as divided as the mudslingers keep pretending it is until it becomes what they want.)

 

[Depleted]

It's interesting that the candidate who was not known for being Christian, is doing more than the others would have, probably, since they wanted to remain in the establishment.

So life begins at conception for another 3-7 years, IF it then can be argued all the way to the Supreme Court.

In 1972, the Supreme Court passed a new law in America -- Roe V Wade. The stupid part is, it's not law, since they aren't legislators, but everyone pretends it is law.

And we Christians are always thrilled when a candidate says they're prolife. Thrilled enough to vote for them. Once voted in, they do nothing anyway.

Want to know an effective, long term way a US President can conquer the Roe V Wade Law? Simple. Say it is wrong and the Court can't create that law.

The President can veto the Supreme Court. He's been able to do that since 1972, but we Christians get very excited when one throws us a bone after taking the meat off it.

Nothing short of denying Roe V Wade will excite me about a conservative President. I have yet to see that President!

 

[heartofdavid]

so who thinks that?

a few select groups?

don't tell me that many black people are not taught to hate white people

I can't believe what comes out of the mouths of some of them

constantly pulling the race card, and now Puerto Rico ... Trump hates Mexicans so therefore he also hates the people of PR

someone said Obama was a smooth talker....so is the devil. let's not forget he is also half WHITE

he played it and he is still playing it

no one talks about white people ? honestly, that is very prejudicial for you to say

while you are busy telling us all what we say, you apparently forgot to correct yourself

try seeing people as individuals...but with the hatred being sown, and packaged in anti-racial leotards, guess that is gonna be hard to do

"packaged in anti-racial leotards"

LOL

 

[kaylagrl]

Thank you for the rep comment,you know who you are And Ive often been called "girly girl" and I'll see it as a compliment until someone informs me different.rofl.

 

[Billyd]

I have been trying to give Trump the benefit of the doubt due to all the rhetoric and hyperbole from the left but this is absolutely unacceptable. How does the president of the United States this disrespectful to the wife of a man who died serving his country? But he's mad because NFL players won't stand for the anthem.
Donald Trump Slammed After Allegedly Telling Fallen Soldier's Pregnant Widow Her Husband 'Knew What He Signed Up For'

There is no right thing to say to one who has lost a child.

We lost our oldest son at 28 years old. He was hit from behind, while riding his bicycle, by an elderly distracted driver. There were many friends who had different comforting words, but the most comforting words came from the friend who sat down beside me, at the scene, at my home, at the church during and after the funeral. He never said a word, but I will never forget what it meant to me to know that someone really close by who knew exactly what I needed to hear.

My advice to the president and the congresswoman is to shut their mouths. If you must say anything, tell the parents that his/her prayers, along with the prayers of the nation are with them.

Thanks to the work of my friend after my son's and another teenager's death, there is now a bike lane on the road where they were killed. The president and the congresswoman should work together to ensure that the parents and/or spouses and children of the fallen soldiers, sailor's, airmen, and marines never need anything.

 

[kaylagrl]

You gave no room for it. You declared they could not understand. What's different between you and them? Even the "But I'm right and the other person is wrong" is the same thought going on in both minds. You've actually fallen for the con game, but not the one you think you're in.

Right, "Liberal mess." Just like "You are not black," you again assume no one can understand liberalism unless they are. Same game, different phrase.

The person you're talking to? Sure, she is all about what she thinks. Never thinking about anything else but expressing her opinion, which also usually includes insulting someone else in a passive-aggressive way. Where as you? You sometimes think beyond yourself. You really aren't passive-aggressive. AND, when you're not bent out of shape in anger at other people, (which you usually aren't), you listen. SO, I bring this up to teach you something of debate/logic/discussion tactics.

I don't talk to her, because talking to her is less effective than talking to a wall. BUT you listen.

I'm not out to change your mind on your political or social-justice opinions. I'm out to let you hear what it's coming across like and why it's not working. If you want to change someone's mind, come at her/him well armed with facts and figures proven out. Come at what you see as a general rule and what you're thinking when you see it. Come up with a better plan and a possible way of implementing it. Come up with something concrete.

Because "You are not black" doesn't work. The empathy thing was to show why it doesn't work. It is a trick used when facts do not.

Yes, she's doing all her tricks, but when a debate turns into one side presents reality and the other side balks and whine to prove a point, even if the balker thinks she won? Everyone watching knows which side works.

I was telling you why "You are not black" doesn't work, so you would try better tactics. Truthfully, this subject is so old, and most sides have taken to attack rather than present facts and ideas for so long, I honestly didn't bother finding out what side you were on. I've only read the last page of this, and not even that since the one you're arguing with the most is ignored by me. That's my answer to those-who-argue-just-to-argue.

BUT you aren't them, or I wouldn't have said anything to you.

I am trying to change your mind -- but on how to debate something better. Not on what is being debated. And I do that because you have empathy!

You're using her tactics, and you're using them because she tricked you into it by getting you angry enough to stoop that low with her. Truth be known, she's enjoying the spotlight and you're just getting angrier and angrier, and so, giving her more spotlight.

I can't say we're good friends, but I know you well enough to know doing this is getting to you, so wanted to show you why.

Breathe! Think it out! Pray! And see if God doesn't have a better way than just slinging back the mud you've been hit with.

(And, yeah. It really does bother me that the sides have been divided into places that should never have been division. This country is NOT as divided as the mudslingers keep pretending it is until it becomes what they want.)

You know to me empathy isn't the same as enabling. The far left has abused the blacks down through history and all the while patting their backs saying "there there". Planned Parenthood just said,and I quote

"This is part of a pattern of Trump admin attacking & undermining Black women. It’s despicable. We stand with @RepWilson & all Black women."


I'm telling you I literally yelled at my TV.Scared the life out of hubby,but he's use to me talking back to the TV by now.They said they stand with black women!!! The founder of PP was a racist! She said minorities were "human weeds" and spoke at a KKK womens rally. Her closest friends were racist. I'm going to put a link here...


http://www.blackgenocide.org/contactus.html

I challenge people to go to this page and read the stats about abortion in the black community and come back here and tell me PP and the libs are on black peoples side. Im tired of the lies. Im tired of the PC. Im tired of telling people what they want to hear and singing them to sleep while they stab them in the back. Like I said,racist is a term used to mean anything that offends a person.Including a cotton decoration display at Hobby Lobby. People will stop taking the black community seriously if this doesn't stop.But between black on black crime and abortion,we may not have a black race much longer.And its not the Repubs. that is the problem.And I'm not going to stop saying because people call me racist. It means nothing,its empty words because no one wants to hear the truth anymore.They want to be rocked to sleep and Im not going to be the one to do it.




p.s. This isn't really directed at you Lynn. Just putting it out there.

 

[Billyd]

I'm tired of this poor little me garbage.

My father was a sharecropper. The values that my parents instilled in all of their children resulted in successful careers and lifestyles for all of us.

My black friend's father was a sharecropper too. The values that his parents instilled in him and his siblings resulted in successful careers for his entire family.

We lived in the segregated deep south. My friend and my paths never crossed, except working in the fields as teenagers, until we both were in our forties. We were supervisors in the maintenance department of our workplace. As we began to discuss our parents, we were amazed at how much that we had in common.

Success is not guaranteed by the color of the skin, it is guaranteed by the values that parents instill in their children.

The main problem with the young people of today is the lack of parents with values to instill into their children. Until we fix this problem, things are only going to get worse.

 

[Zi]

Maybe in your experience. But you cannot shut down the majority for saying they haven't had it that way.

Whites are not around for conversations where truths are spoken and collected to the contrary.

Being a manager for a company is quite different than owning a company.

You know nothing of the struggles of some... As I said to another.. this is ignorant...

Whites think they can speak for blacks because they know a guy who made it...

Sweep across America and your world will shatter

I'm tired of this poor little me garbage.

My father was a sharecropper. The values that my parents instilled in all of their children resulted in successful careers and lifestyles for all of us.

My black friend's father was a sharecropper too. The values that his parents instilled in him and his siblings resulted in successful careers for his entire family.

We lived in the segregated deep south. My friend and my paths never crossed, except working in the fields as teenagers, until we both were in our forties. We were supervisors in the maintenance department of our workplace. As we began to discuss our parents, we were amazed at how much that we had in common.

Success is not guaranteed by the color of the skin, it is guaranteed by the values that parents instill in their children.

The main problem with the young people of today is the lack of parents with values to instill into their children. Until we fix this problem, things are only going to get worse.

 

[Depleted]

I'm tired of this poor little me garbage.

My father was a sharecropper. The values that my parents instilled in all of their children resulted in successful careers and lifestyles for all of us.

My black friend's father was a sharecropper too. The values that his parents instilled in him and his siblings resulted in successful careers for his entire family.

We lived in the segregated deep south. My friend and my paths never crossed, except working in the fields as teenagers, until we both were in our forties. We were supervisors in the maintenance department of our workplace. As we began to discuss our parents, we were amazed at how much that we had in common.

Success is not guaranteed by the color of the skin, it is guaranteed by the values that parents instill in their children.

The main problem with the young people of today is the lack of parents with values to instill into their children. Until we fix this problem, things are only going to get worse.

Poor little me.

I have size ten shoes.

In men's shoes! Size 11 in women's shoes.

(My humor is bad, isn't it?)

 

[Depleted]

Maybe in your experience. But you cannot shut down the majority for saying they haven't had it that way.

Whites are not around for conversations where truths are spoken and collected to the contrary.

Being a manager for a company is quite different than owning a company.

You know nothing of the struggles of some... As I said to another.. this is ignorant...

Whites think they can speak for blacks because they know a guy who made it...

Sweep across America and your world will shatter

You think you know what "the majority" says?

 

[Billyd]

Maybe in your experience. But you cannot shut down the majority for saying they haven't had it that way.

Whites are not around for conversations where truths are spoken and collected to the contrary.

Being a manager for a company is quite different than owning a company.

You know nothing of the struggles of some... As I said to another.. this is ignorant...

Whites think they can speak for blacks because they know a guy who made it...

Sweep across America and your world will shatter

Zi, I have no intention of shutting down any one.

Apparently you are not around many whites. Maybe you should listen to what they are saying, or better yet, what you are saying. Everyone has struggles. You can fall for the "poor little me" line, run around the world crying about how bad you have it, or you can become part of the solution. Don't continue to tell me that black people need special treatment. As my father, or my black friend's father would tell you, those sitting back side and whining, need a swift kick in the back side.

I don't think that you know anything about the struggles of others. As the Apostle Paul said, in my weakness (struggles), I am strong. The only ignorant thing here is, believing that someone else is responsible for you struggles.

I have been in 23 states across this great nation. I have seen the great works of God, maintained by the hands of many different people. I have also seen the works of a huge crowd of people who have little respect for themselves in the slums and inner cities of the nation. Whites or blacks didn't create these areas. Valueless people of all races including blacks and whites did.

If you have any complaints about the lifestyle you are living, don't take to the streets destroying everything in sight. Look in the mirror, you will see the person who is responsible.

 

[heartofdavid]

OK,here IS THE PROBLEM. Obama,his propaganda to fester wounds and attack good people.

We are about to see the real demon come forward in OBama's body.;


from:
Obama-linked activists have a ‘training manual’ for protesting Trump | New York Post
"These aren’t typical Black Lives Matter or Occupy Wall Street marchers, but rather professionally trained organizers who go through a six-week training program similar to the training — steeped in Alinsky agitation tactics — Obama received in Chicago when he was a community organizer.
Chicago socialist Saul Alinsky, known by the left as “the father of community organizing,” taught radicals to “rub raw the sores of discontent” and create the conditions for a “revolution.” He dedicated his book, “Rules for Radicals,” to “Lucifer.” Michelle Obama quoted from the book when she helped launch OFA in 2013.
Obama appears to be behind the anti-Trump protests. He praised recent demonstrations against Trump’s travel ban. And last year, after Trump’s upset victory, he personally rallied OFA troops to “protect” his legacy in a conference call. “Now is the time for some organizing,” he said. “So don’t mope” over the election results.
He promised OFA activists he would soon join them in the fray.
“Understand that I’m going to be constrained in what I do with all of you until I am again a private citizen, but that’s not so far off,” he said. “You’re going to see me early next year, and we’re going to be in a position where we can start cooking up all kinds of great stuff.”
Added the ex-president: “I promise you that next year Michelle and I are going to be right there with you, and the clouds are going to start parting, and we’re going to be busy. I’ve got all kinds of thoughts and ideas about it, but this isn’t the best time to share them."


Obama is very sick and driven man. Very evil

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Tell a person they are a victim long enough and they will believe it

True words that many don’t even understand.

 

[Willie-T]

WooHoo!!!!!! For once in my life I get to part of the 1%.

I am part of the 1% in three different ways. First of all, I can spell resumé. Secondly, I am a pilot. And third, I used to be a Biker.

 

[preacher4truth]

I am part of the 1% in three different ways. First of all, I can spell resumé. Secondly, I am a pilot. And third, I used to be a Biker.

Riding a big wheel is not being a biker.

 

[Zi]

Here's where you and others are wrong in you advice to me.... I'm 100% Caucasian... Thanks tho

Bottom line,you not only see yourself as a victim,you see the entire black race as victims.

You have been duped by liberal propaganda.

Do yourself a favor. Do a personal experiment on the opposite view.

Here is your starting place;

Read "George Washington Carver"

IT WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE.

Pssssst,it is your world view that is robbing you.

 

[Zi]

To be so short-sighted that you can't possibly imagine the worst to be true is shameful..

Tell me if they are not "victims" or treated differently, where is their equality?

I'm not black but half my family is. 99% of the members of the church I go to are. My neighborhood. I don't see them getting approved for loans for small business. Lots on the public transportation. .... I could go on

I know successful AA, but the majority have nothing. ...

 

[Zi]

When I'm with white folk I get treated differently.. followed in stores when too many AA are in there..

If prejudice/racism exists in small forms, it exists on the other too..

All you have to do is be in any business and watch the difference..

 

[Zi]

Some whites in my family discuss the level of color when a new child is born.. to decide how embarrassed they will be to be around... That not propaganda.

My experiences are my own. I know 0 about politics. All the sides and terms, 0.. some stories I've read.

 

[7seasrekeyed]

you know, my husband and I were minding our own business in a Wal-mart...oh about 9 years or so ago. my husband is one of the least prejudiced people you could meet. he was born in the British islands to missionary parents and grew up with mostly black people and to this day treats everyone on a level field

as we were getting our groceries together he was accosted by a very big and tall and very black man...IN wal-mart mind you...in front of hundreds of people

my husband is not a big guy...5'9" and slender...I can't even remember what either of them said...but for absolutely no reason this hulking black man thought he should start a fight with someone minding their own business

we left our groceries and went to the front of the store and reported the incident..and a couple of men went back to find the guy and I don't know what happened other than we left ... groceries and all and went somewhere else

I have also had my own 'incident' where I was accosted by a very black and angry crazy woman and I would not respond. again, no reason at all...other than perhaps I am white

this thread was started because of the remarks being made against Trump..not for people to moan and cry into their lemonade

but if you wanna do that, listen up...I gotz stories too

I would like to say that prejudice is on both sides...but I will add that I find black people FAR more prejudiced and hateful

happy now?