Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

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Yeah, a lot of people in USA make their vote with their residence.
Here's what i mean. If you live in partisan states, it doesn't matter if you vote for Mickey Mouse or for Donald Trump because the electoral college is going to override your choice. So it's pointless to vote for the president in partisan states. You vote only for local matters.
Since USA is divided in red and blue zones and a few swings states, then the swing states is where your vote counts and where you should or MUST absolutely vote.

People chose states based on their lifestyle. Since i don't want guns and want universal healthcare, I've been very happy in Massachusetts for close to 30 years.
If i wanted guns, i'd be moving to Texas probably.
Problem is there are other factors. Washington has a monopoly on my nieces and nephew. I get "sunburned" by my laptop and can't take the heat, so Texas and Florida are out anyway. I've toyed with the idea of Idaho but I don't know if racists are any better than liberals. And they would likely have lower wages and state income tax anyway. Washington does do a few things right.
 

Eli1

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Problem is there are other factors. Washington has a monopoly on my nieces and nephew. I get "sunburned" by my laptop and can't take the heat, so Texas and Florida are out anyway. I've toyed with the idea of Idaho but I don't know if racists are any better than liberals. And they would likely have lower wages and state income tax anyway. Washington does do a few things right.
There are many many factors that one needs to look at, especially if one is planing to or has a family.
For me, all my choices had to be made by prioritizing family first, not myself.
And that means, good healthcare system, good education system, lower crime rate, good pay and many other factors.
 

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By Trump's own definition, Biden is currently holding a "Black job".
Close enough. Biden also illegally took the job.

However, considering the context of Trump's statements, your analogy is nonsense.
 

Smoke

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Close enough. Biden also illegally took the job.

However, considering the context of Trump's statements, your analogy is nonsense.
I didn't make an analogy. I applied Trump's definition. Are you saying Trump's definition is "nonsense"? If so, I agree with you.
 

ZNP

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I think these verses sum up this thread

60 and they did not find; and many false witnesses having come near, they did not find; and at last two false witnesses having come near, 61 said, `This one said, I am able to throw down the sanctuary of God, and after three days to build it.'

Don't be one of the two false witnesses
 

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I know many black people, as I said, half my family is black. I know some who are not bothered at all by it and some that are, the difference between the two is always based on one thing, those that watch CNN and MSNBC like dutiful drones are offended, those that are not sitting in front of the idiot box are not.

If anyone is offended by this quote I would guess the reason is most likely because the MSM told them to be offended.

I will make a prediction, that is that Trump gets a higher percentage of black votes than any other Republican in the last hundred years. I would even think he has a very real chance of getting a higher percentage of Black votes than Kamala Harris.

I can not believe there are people still stupid enough to by this "Trump is racist" bull from the most racist group in American history, the Democrat party. Which sadly includes ALL of mainstream media (Fox included). This is the most crooked, lying, corrupt, racist, divisive force I've ever seen. If it wasn't for Jesus I'd give into my hatred of these people and be foaming at the mouth to do something about it finally. But just like Israel vs Hamas (Islam honestly, most don't know or believe that Hamas is more Muslim according to the Quran than your "nice coworker" Muslim) we would never be able to "violence" or way out of this division. We have to follow our King and handle this the only way it can be made right, through Him. He tells us to love our enemies and pray for those who persecute us, but I can't lie, I have NO clue how anyone claiming to follow the Truth can buy this 2nd grade nonsense the way they are here.
 

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Close enough. Biden also illegally took the job.
I'm not trying to be provocative but, "and the beast will hate her" comes to mind when I think of 'just deserts' if she obtains the presidency in the way which it initially designed for her to 'sit pretty' on.
 

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I didn't make an analogy. I applied Trump's definition. Are you saying Trump's definition is "nonsense"? If so, I agree with you.
Back to your statement I responded to: But you are being bombastic. And, yes, you are making a comparison between a black job taken by an illegal immigrant and the job of POTUS. That comparison is an analogy. And you are asserting what you think Trump meant as if you're in his head. I could just as easily assert that "anybody" in the context of his situation and discussion meant "any black person."
 

Smoke

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Back to your statement I responded to: But you are being bombastic. And, yes, you are making a comparison between a black job taken by an illegal immigrant and the job of POTUS. That comparison is an analogy. And you are asserting what you think Trump meant as if you're in his head. I could just as easily assert that "anybody" in the context of his situation and discussion meant "any black person."
An analogy is "a comparison of two unlike things"... this is a one-for-one comparison. It doesn't meet the requirement.

Facts/Given:
1.) Trump's verbatim definition of "Black job": Anybody with a job.
2.) POTUS is a job.

Using the laws of logic, if #1 and #2 are true, we can determine that the POTUS is a "Black job" as it fulfils the standard of being a job. A job is a job. This isn't an analogy and I'm not sure why you think it is. If you think it's "nonsense", you aren't attacking me but rather Trump's descriptor for what a "Black job" is.
 

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An analogy is "a comparison of two unlike things"... this is a one-for-one comparison. It doesn't meet the requirement.

Facts/Given:
1.) Trump's verbatim definition of "Black job": Anybody with a job.
2.) POTUS is a job.

Using the laws of logic, if #1 and #2 are true, we can determine that the POTUS is a "Black job" as it fulfils the standard of being a job. A job is a job. This isn't an analogy and I'm not sure why you think it is. If you think it's "nonsense", you aren't attacking me but rather Trump's descriptor for what a "Black job" is.
What he meant to say was that blacks were losing jobs too. So when asked what black jobs were he said any job because blacks do all kinds of jobs.
This is all more TDS nonsense.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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You are correct sister. But when you can't justify such an insane definition, it's easier for his disciples to change the argument up and object about something no one was objecting to in the first place.
Sister?
 

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It's okay it's no big deal when someone doesn't look at my profile to know that i'm male.
It won't change my reality that i'm male. Besides he contacted me in private and did tell me that he didn't see my profile.

It's a small thing which i don't mind. :)
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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It's okay it's no big deal when someone doesn't look at my profile to know that i'm male.
It won't change my reality that i'm male. Besides he contacted me in private and did tell me that he didn't see my profile.

It's a small thing which i don't mind. :)
No, I went and checked! Dang I hate that CC doesn't show male and female. I was like, have I been talking to a lady all this time?? Sheesh!
 

Eli1

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No, I went and checked! Dang I hate that CC doesn't show male and female. I was like, have I been talking to a lady all this time?? Sheesh!
Haha, no no it's still me.
I have made that mistake too when i called HeIsHere a male and a few other folks where i didn't check their profile first.
 

Smoke

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What he meant to say was that blacks were losing jobs too. So when asked what black jobs were he said any job because blacks do all kinds of jobs.
This is all more TDS nonsense.
I think I know what he meant. The problem is that what he meant is not what he said. I think when he was asked what a "Black job" is, he was checkmated and couldn't actually say what he truly believe is a "Black job".

To another point, if illegal immigrants are stealing American jobs (including Black people), why aren't we targeting the people who hire illegal immigrants? Shouldn't the employers who break the law and exploit illegal immigrants by paying them pennies on the dollar be targeted even more than how he wants to target illegal immigrants? Shouldn't eliminating what draws the majority of illegal immigration instantly decrease it?

The reason why he doesn't advocate this, in my opinion, is because he himself hired illegal immigrants (according to a multitude of reports). It would make him look hypocritical. Just because it would make him look hypocritical shouldn't be a valid reason why we don't target people of his ilk who exploit illegal immigrants though.
 

Eli1

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To another point, if illegal immigrants are stealing American jobs (including Black people), why aren't we targeting the people who hire illegal immigrants? Shouldn't the employers who break the law and exploit illegal immigrants by paying them pennies on the dollar be targeted even more than how he wants to target illegal immigrants? Shouldn't eliminating what draws the majority of illegal immigration instantly decrease it?
But this is like asking why aren't the roads paved perfectly and why are there potholes which ruin our cars? Why aren't we fixing old bridges or update infrastructure like trains?
Well because the mentality is : "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". And even if it's broke then the mentality is "it's not my job".
So you need a perfect mindset to achieve perfection in society but since this is impossible with humans and it's possible by God only, that's why we are all looking forward to the Perfect Kingdom.

We just have to deal with acceptable waste and failures in societies so it's comfortable for most to live and it's not horrible. And since people still want to come to USA, it means that USA is better than a lot of nations in terms of wealth and processes compared to the countries where they come from.

I mean, i see so much waste at my job alone that i've pointed out many times to the higher-ups but nobody cares because there's still a lot of money. But when the money runs out then people will start to do math again.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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You can’t just claim thier is 45 million illegals in the US without backing that claim up with data.

I provided data to the contrary now you have to correct your numbers or provide proof for your claim as well as discredit the pew research centers findings.

There is no data, no one knows how many illegals in this country. If they say they do they are flat out lying.
 

Smoke

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TDS nonsense indeed...!!
This exposes TDS for both sides PERFECTLY:

Republican TDS: For actually believing Trump when he claims he cured cancer.

Democrat TDS: Believing Trump cured cancer and somehow injecting racism into it.