Dutch Muslims Have Charlie Hebdo Poster Removed

[Mitspa]

Aye, then you would agree that we should not fight this war nor invite it to our shores. Islam is not akin to nazism. Nazism was about a nation and their nation was destroyed by themselves and Hitler did kill himself. Islam is a spiritual enemy, it cannot be fought with bullets and bombs. How many bombs and bullets has the secular West used to murder millions in the past 13 years? Has islam increased or decreased in that time? It is no secret it has increased and the violence it has increased and the war is now spreading to all the nations with each passing year.

Therefore then since we cannot stop the secularists from bringing war upon themselves I will say again, do not fight their war. Let them fight their own war. At this point all we can do is warn them with warnings they will not believe and keep our Christian brothers from being seduced to fight in a war of which neither side is our ally.

Its exactly the same...and its immoral and ungodly to ignore the slaughter that is going on and the one to come if we don't make a stand against these killers...They was marching around Paris only a few days ago shouting "GAS THE JEWS"! "GAS THE JEWS"! Same evil spirit as the Nazis...maybe worse in some ways?

 

[Mitspa]

I think all you people who think this whole incident is about free speech need to google some of the Charlie Hebdo cartoons.

They are inappropriate, and pornographic. This is not about someone standing up and saying, "Muslims go home!" It is about the sexualization of every religion and political belief in the world, including Christianity.

While I do not agree with revenge that the Muslims took, neither do I think that these cartoons are appropriate to publish. If I was to post one here, I think the mods would be well within their rights to delete them, as they are sexually profane. Forget, that this was about Mohammed. I have no dout they showed Jesus in sexually inappropriate cartoons, too!

These cartoons were vile sexual pornography. And that should not be published!

So to you this justifies all the crimes of Islam? This is just the latest work of their religion of murder...and the fact that someone had dirty cartoons don't change the fact that these people are cold blooded killers that need to be stopped.


And I have seen some of these cartoons and most of them have nothing to do with sexual topics...its mostly just political statements by the cartoonist...

 

[Mitspa]

Smut! That is the proper word for Charlie Hebdo's cartoons!

so kill them? Who thinks like this?

 

[Susanna]

It saddens me to realize that so many people are failing to understand what this is all about. It doesn't matter how bad those cartoons were, killing people making cartoons you don't like is wrong on every thinkable level.

 

[GodIsSalvation]

Its exactly the same...and its immoral and ungodly to ignore the slaughter that is going on and the one to come if we don't make a stand against these killers...They was marching around Paris only a few days ago shouting "GAS THE JEWS"! "GAS THE JEWS"! Same evil spirit as the Nazis...maybe worse in some ways?

Indeed far worse is islam than nazism. Unlike nazism you cannot stand against it in the vain power of nations. Indeed that is what makes it more dangerous. Islam is not a flesh and blood enemy, it is a spiritual enemy. It is a trap for the followers of islam itself and for those that would war with it with flesh and blood means.

The arm of the nations they are being broken in front of our very eyes. This I have not ignored but have seen it. It is not secret, but is published as wide as the internet does reach. I have told many though they do mock and insult me in every way imaginable from accusing me of being a muslim to accusing me of being an islamophobe. I became aware of the war when Syria was torn apart in 2010. I have watched every year since as kings are thrown down from their earthly thrones and nations rip themselves apart. Is it because I watch that I must warn? Aye, the watchman must warn.

You are an old man, I am a young man. It is not easy to watch people that are my own age and younger being killed left and right because of islam and because of the secular nations and the false freedom they do peddle. Both of these enemies do consume without remorse my generation, and then send them to fight their wars which they themselves are causing.

Look to our real brothers, the Christian martyrs in Syria and elsewhere. They are not fighting with guns and bombs. They are not putting up lewd posters mocking all religions. They are not relying on fake freedom which does not exist. They make their stand by believing in Jesus, and that is wisdom for the arm of God is the longest and strongest of all, with the power to even reach into hell and bring back people.

 

[Mitspa]

Indeed far worse is islam than nazism. Unlike nazism you cannot stand against it in the vain power of nations. Indeed that is what makes it more dangerous. Islam is not a flesh and blood enemy, it is a spiritual enemy. It is a trap for the followers of islam itself and for those that would war with it with flesh and blood means.

The arm of the nations they are being broken in front of our very eyes. This I have not ignored but have seen it. It is not secret, but is published as wide as the internet does reach. I have told many though they do mock and insult me in every way imaginable from accusing me of being a muslim to accusing me of being an islamophobe. I became aware of the war when Syria was torn apart in 2010. I have watched every year since as kings are thrown down from their earthly thrones and nations rip themselves apart. Is it because I watch that I must warn? Aye, the watchman must warn.

You are an old man, I am a young man. It is not easy to watch people that are my own age and younger being killed left and right because of islam and because of the secular nations and the false freedom they do peddle. Both of these enemies do consume without remorse my generation, and then send them to fight their wars which they themselves are causing.

Look to our real brothers, the Christian martyrs in Syria and elsewhere. They are not fighting with guns and bombs. They are not putting up lewd posters mocking all religions. They are not relying on fake freedom which does not exist. They make their stand by believing in Jesus, and that is wisdom for the arm of God is the longest and strongest of all, with the power to even reach into hell and bring back people.

Oh so your logic is that we cant defend ourselves from these people because they are a religion...that's not logically or biblical. We defeated the RCC and Nazism was in large part a cult type religion. If God calls us to go preach the gospel we take the sword of the Spirit...if God calls us to defend our friends and our people we take up the sword of justice against these criminals...then we can set the people free from these monsters and preach the gospel with some liberty.

 

[GodIsSalvation]

Oh so your logic is that we cant defend ourselves from these people because they are a religion...that's not logically or biblical. We defeated the RCC and Nazism was in large part a cult type religion. If God calls us to go preach the gospel we take the sword of the Spirit...if God calls us to defend our friends and our people we take up the sword of justice against these criminals...then we can set the people free from these monsters and preach the gospel with some liberty.

No, you don't understand because you want to kill people. This is why you can't fight islam and in trying you only play into islam's hands and help it spread further. Islam is a religion, but that is not where its power comes from. For if that were the case that it was merely a religion all you need do is burn every koran and destroy every mosque and destroy the idol that lies in the kaaba. You could do all that and you would still not stop islam.

Islam is a spirit. You can't bomb a spirit. You can't shoot a spirit.

You should rethink your stance on standing with the secularists whom are also controlled by many spirits all of which are also against us. Consider making peace with the Catholics, for they are Christians. The time of denominations is coming to an end. If you trully wanted to stand against islam, you would know that we must reunite the disparate denominations back into one Christianity.

 

[Utah]

It is true many people are being called out of the shadow of islam, and indeed that is good. However it is also true that islam is among the fastest growing religions for the time being. Since 9/11 islam in the West has increased, not decreased. Since 9/11 islam has increased the world over. It will not last forever though, it will fall eventually, but not by bullets nor by bombs, for all bullets and bombs can do is rend flesh. If you do not believe me, it is an easy google search away from being known. It is no secret at all.

You speak well, there is not peace in this world. Therefore we must not side with the world and let the world fight its own wars.

Its increased in the West because muslims who want no part of the warfare are getting the hell out of Dodge.

GIS, I love, love, love the hopes and dreams for that which you yearn, and please understand I am being completely respectful when I say the following: though you are 25 years of age, you're still very young and you lack some vital experience in life that will cause you to take a different stance on certain issues. You're still an idealist, and believe me, 98% of the world wants your ideals to come true, but the hard truth of life is that evil exists, and it's rearing its prominent head more so now in islam than anywhere else. And if it takes bullets and bombs to destroy this evil then it simply must be.

 

[GodIsSalvation]

Its increased in the West because muslims who want no part of the warfare are getting the hell out of Dodge.

GIS, I love, love, love the hopes and dreams for that which you yearn, and please understand I am being completely respectful when I say the following: though you are 25 years of age, you're still very young and you lack some vital experience in life that will cause you to take a different stance on certain issues. You're still an idealist, and believe me, 98% of the world wants your ideals to come true, but the hard truth of life is that evil exists, and it's rearing its prominent head more so now in islam than anywhere else. And if it takes bullets and bombs to destroy this evil then it simply must be.

I am no idealist. An idealist trusts in vanity.

Here is the reality. The spirit of this world is not for us, it is against us. Don't trust in the nations for they are falling. Don't trust in the freedom that the peddlers do peddle because they are enslaved. Don't trust in the generations for to come, for the sons will kill their fathers, and even then the end is not yet, but that is the beginning of sorrows.

Don't trust in the sun for one day its light will be extinguished. Don't trust in the moon for it shall be smote. Don't trust in the stars for they will fall to the earth. Don't trust in the earth because it will be dissolved. Don't trust in the heavens because they will catch fire.

The only trust that is trustworthy is that Jesus rose from the dead and will return shortly to resurrect those that love him to eternal life.

 

[GodIsSalvation]

Its increased in the West because muslims who want no part of the warfare are getting the hell out of Dodge.

GIS, I love, love, love the hopes and dreams for that which you yearn, and please understand I am being completely respectful when I say the following: though you are 25 years of age, you're still very young and you lack some vital experience in life that will cause you to take a different stance on certain issues. You're still an idealist, and believe me, 98% of the world wants your ideals to come true, but the hard truth of life is that evil exists, and it's rearing its prominent head more so now in islam than anywhere else. And if it takes bullets and bombs to destroy this evil then it simply must be.

Other than the above comment on idealism and realism though you do speak well. However bullets and bombs will not avail you. Aye it is true many muslims do so to escape from the war. However it is also true that because of this the West did let in islam and islam has increased, not decreased, I told you this myself yesterday.

Therefore if the West is going to bring islam in and then mock islam, it is no surprise that the followers of islam smite them. If the West wants to mock islam and fight with their bullets and bombs in vanity and get defeated time after time like they did in Iraq and Afghanistan, they can do so, but I will not fight their war for them. Let them fight their own war if they are so eager to fight. They have no right to try to seduce my brethren into fighting and dying in vain for a war they themselves provoke. Let them fight and lose their own war.

 

[Rachel20]

The irony in all this, is the poster shows a homosexual kiss between a Muslim and a Charlie Hebdo cartoonist.


All those Christians who are passionately supporting the poster to be put up in a school of children aged 12-15 and at the same time disapprove of gay marriages are hypocrites indeed.

 

[Mitspa]

No, you don't understand because you want to kill people. This is why you can't fight islam and in trying you only play into islam's hands and help it spread further. Islam is a religion, but that is not where its power comes from. For if that were the case that it was merely a religion all you need do is burn every koran and destroy every mosque and destroy the idol that lies in the kaaba. You could do all that and you would still not stop islam.

Islam is a spirit. You can't bomb a spirit. You can't shoot a spirit.

You should rethink your stance on standing with the secularists whom are also controlled by many spirits all of which are also against us. Consider making peace with the Catholics, for they are Christians. The time of denominations is coming to an end. If you trully wanted to stand against islam, you would know that we must reunite the disparate denominations back into one Christianity.

Who wants to kill? I want to protect people from killers! Love don't allow criminals and killers to slaughter the weak...love defends the weak and upholds justice.

 

[Mitspa]

Its increased in the West because muslims who want no part of the warfare are getting the hell out of Dodge.

GIS, I love, love, love the hopes and dreams for that which you yearn, and please understand I am being completely respectful when I say the following: though you are 25 years of age, you're still very young and you lack some vital experience in life that will cause you to take a different stance on certain issues. You're still an idealist, and believe me, 98% of the world wants your ideals to come true, but the hard truth of life is that evil exists, and it's rearing its prominent head more so now in islam than anywhere else. And if it takes bullets and bombs to destroy this evil then it simply must be.

No he is not a "idealist" he seemed quite pleased that these people where killed and said they deserve it for speaking against islam.... don't be deceived by all this talk of love and compassion...its not real and anyone who reads this guys post can see that.

 

[Mitspa]

Other than the above comment on idealism and realism though you do speak well. However bullets and bombs will not avail you. Aye it is true many muslims do so to escape from the war. However it is also true that because of this the West did let in islam and islam has increased, not decreased, I told you this myself yesterday.

Therefore if the West is going to bring islam in and then mock islam, it is no surprise that the followers of islam smite them. If the West wants to mock islam and fight with their bullets and bombs in vanity and get defeated time after time like they did in Iraq and Afghanistan, they can do so, but I will not fight their war for them. Let them fight their own war if they are so eager to fight. They have no right to try to seduce my brethren into fighting and dying in vain for a war they themselves provoke. Let them fight and lose their own war.

Worked very well against the Nazis...and these guys are no different.

 

[Utah]

No he is not a "idealist" he seemed quite pleased that these people where killed and said they deserve it for speaking against islam.... don't be deceived by all this talk of love and compassion...its not real and anyone who reads this guys post can see that.

Thank you, my Friend. I'm beginning to catch on. I was trying to be respectful with him but you're right.

Christian/humanist/atheist artists = bad.
muslim murderers = misunderstood.

I'm done here.

 

[Joel-]

@Didymos

You have already explained the problem in the third line of your message: it's a VMBO-school. The perception on those schools and their scholars in the Netherlands - that is being set by politicians, main stream media, the way the eductional system is organized - is that VMBO-scholars are scum; lower, no not lower, lowest of the lowest. The teens on those schools recognize that. They also adapt that into behavior that is 'okay' for 'such people' (in their eyes). Result is bad bahavior, poor school results, and so on.

The key to 'break' that problem is to make shure that the educational systems need to work different.

A great documentry on that is 'Superschool'. Sadly for all the non-dutch speaking people here it is in Dutch. But you can handle it... Tegenlicht - Superschool

 

[Angela53510]

What is REALLY ironic in this whole diatribe against the Muslims who killed the 12 people associated with the Hebdo attack (inluding the police!) is that at the same time, over 2000 Nigerians, (many of them Christians) were killed by the radial Isalmic group Boko Haram, and hardly a word was ever spoken about it in the media.

All people harp on is "freedom of speech" for this French journal, rather than addressing the bigger issue of Muslims killing 2000 people in Nigeria.

Is it that people care more about their right to free speech, than they do for the dead Nigerians? Of course, it is "all about me!" No one wants to lose their supposed free speech, but they won't be attacked by the Boko Haram, so why should they care about the constant abductions and murders in a country that they will never affect them!

Nine days later, bodies still litter bushes from Boko Haram's 'deadliest' massacre - CNN.com

 

[didymos]

@Didymos

You have already explained the problem in the third line of your message: it's a VMBO-school. The perception on those schools and their scholars in the Netherlands - that is being set by politicians, main stream media, the way the eductional system is organized - is that VMBO-scholars are scum; lower, no not lower, lowest of the lowest...

The problem isn't the level of eduction, the problem is many of those schools are populated by islamic students (only). I doubt this incident would have occured had there been NO islamic students on the school. None islamic Vmbo students generally speaking don't care too much about politics and/or religion. Thanks for the link though.

 

[kaylagrl]

What is REALLY ironic in this whole diatribe against the Muslims who killed the 12 people associated with the Hebdo attack (inluding the police!) is that at the same time, over 2000 Nigerians, (many of them Christians) were killed by the radial Isalmic group Boko Haram, and hardly a word was ever spoken about it in the media.

All people harp on is "freedom of speech" for this French journal, rather than addressing the bigger issue of Muslims killing 2000 people in Nigeria.

Is it that people care more about their right to free speech, than they do for the dead Nigerians? Of course, it is "all about me!" No one wants to lose their supposed free speech, but they won't be attacked by the Boko Haram, so why should they care about the constant abductions and murders in a country that they will never affect them!

Nine days later, bodies still litter bushes from Boko Haram's 'deadliest' massacre - CNN.com

Muslims are killing all over the world.The news simply cant keep up with it.People were shocked at 12 killed in cold blood and a cop begging for his life shot down like a dog in the street.I think people were too shocked to accept so many more had been killed.Its a lot to digest in a couple days.I think we care,I do,we just haven't processed it.

 

[Susanna]

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Christian/humanist/atheist artists = bad.
muslim murderers = misunderstood.

This pretty much sums it up...

On a related note, seems like the fanatic gang is on a divide et impera roll now, Lord knows there is a lot of "western" people taking to the streets now rallying against anybdoy being critical of that religion...at the same time they are parroting the fanatics by telling everybody that the cartoons were so bad they called for a gang of execution style fanatics, they sorta had it coming etc, and that the shooters wasnt that bad...kinda misunderstood, really....Well, I sure hope yall coming to their rescue will wake up before they are coming to a town near you...