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This has nothing to do with free speech. Jesus peddled freedom when He said "If the Son shall make you free, you will be free indeed". The verse you are thinking of...
For, speaking loud boasts of folly, they entice by sensual passions of the flesh those who are barely escaping from those who live in error. They promise them freedom, but they themselves are slaves of corruption. For whatever overcomes a person, to that he is enslaved.
(2Pe 2:18-19)
has to do with freedom of speech which is a main issue here.
For, speaking loud boasts of folly, they entice by sensual passions of the flesh those who are barely escaping from those who live in error. They promise them freedom, but they themselves are slaves of corruption. For whatever overcomes a person, to that he is enslaved.
(2Pe 2:18-19)
has to do with freedom of speech which is a main issue here.
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Then you would agree not to put this poster up in a school jeopardizing the lives of children. You would agree then that we ought to warn all about not fighting this war even at the cost of being insulted and threatened. You would also agree then that we do not war with the flesh and will speak so even for when the children of iniquity put us to death because of it.
You accuse me of being a muslim then so call Mahomet a prophet. What kind of prophet is Mahomet? I do not believe Mahomet is a prophet. Do you? I don't think you do. So what good is it to you to accuse people of being muslims?
Not once have I rejoiced in the death of any of these men. There is a difference between deserving death and inviting death into your house. As it is the children of the world are so eager to mock and make war with the children of islam they do invite the war and death upon themselves. How hard is it to understand this? Consider again, that if a man pokes a bear no one should be surprised he gets maulled. I do not rejoice over the man being mauled, but the truth is that man provoked his own maulling. I will say so in hope that my brothers and the man's very children do not go forth and get maulled by the bear, but the man's children will not listen and will provoke the bear and they will get maulled.
As it is the children of the world do mock Jesus they show they are not my brothers and I will not fight and die for them in the war they themselves bring to themselves. All I can do is forgive them and warn them about their own war which is consuming their own brothers, but they will not believe and shall mock all the more. Do not fight for the world or for islam for both are vain and will perish. If they will not listen and want to fight this war then let them fight their own war that they are so eager to fight, we cannot stop them. All we can do is try to keep our brothers in Christ from being seduced into partaking and dying in vain in this war.
You accuse me of being a muslim then so call Mahomet a prophet. What kind of prophet is Mahomet? I do not believe Mahomet is a prophet. Do you? I don't think you do. So what good is it to you to accuse people of being muslims?
Not once have I rejoiced in the death of any of these men. There is a difference between deserving death and inviting death into your house. As it is the children of the world are so eager to mock and make war with the children of islam they do invite the war and death upon themselves. How hard is it to understand this? Consider again, that if a man pokes a bear no one should be surprised he gets maulled. I do not rejoice over the man being mauled, but the truth is that man provoked his own maulling. I will say so in hope that my brothers and the man's very children do not go forth and get maulled by the bear, but the man's children will not listen and will provoke the bear and they will get maulled.
As it is the children of the world do mock Jesus they show they are not my brothers and I will not fight and die for them in the war they themselves bring to themselves. All I can do is forgive them and warn them about their own war which is consuming their own brothers, but they will not believe and shall mock all the more. Do not fight for the world or for islam for both are vain and will perish. If they will not listen and want to fight this war then let them fight their own war that they are so eager to fight, we cannot stop them. All we can do is try to keep our brothers in Christ from being seduced into partaking and dying in vain in this war.
Aye that is the verse. It is clear then that we are to beware the freedom peddlers for they are slaves of corruption. It could not be anymore abundantly clear. The freedom they are talking about in the news is not freedom. Behold they have even paraded around their idol to freedom in Paris. Let therefore their idol which they are enslaved to deliver them if it could, but it cannot.
M
This scripture has nothing to do with the fact that these people are just like Nazis...in fact they tell their followers that in killing others they have freedom...and virgins in heaven or whatever fantasy they make up... and you have already proven that you rejoiced in the death of these people...I doubt you have any understanding of biblical liberty nor does anyone need to take biblical advice from you.
And what are you saying? That by fighting and killing others that you will gain freedom. The time of the nazis is over. You are the one talking about rejoicing in peoples' deaths, not I. I have told you how they died and why, and how to avoid a similar death. Do not fight in this war. Let them fight their own war.
M
Im saying love requires that we defend others against monsters like these and like the Nazis....Its love to protect others..its love to protect the weak...its love that we keep justice on the earth in as much as its in our power.....Its not love to allow these monsters to continue to kill and rape the world...That's just silly ...the same ignorance that allowed people like Hitler to kill millions.
Aye, then you would agree that we should not fight this war nor invite it to our shores. Islam is not akin to nazism. Nazism was about a nation and their nation was destroyed by themselves and Hitler did kill himself. Islam is a spiritual enemy, it cannot be fought with bullets and bombs. How many bombs and bullets has the secular West used to murder millions in the past 13 years? Has islam increased or decreased in that time? It is no secret it has increased and the violence it has increased and the war is now spreading to all the nations with each passing year.
Therefore then since we cannot stop the secularists from bringing war upon themselves I will say again, do not fight their war. Let them fight their own war. At this point all we can do is warn them with warnings they will not believe and keep our Christian brothers from being seduced to fight in a war of which neither side is our ally.
Therefore then since we cannot stop the secularists from bringing war upon themselves I will say again, do not fight their war. Let them fight their own war. At this point all we can do is warn them with warnings they will not believe and keep our Christian brothers from being seduced to fight in a war of which neither side is our ally.
It is true many people are being called out of the shadow of islam, and indeed that is good. However it is also true that islam is among the fastest growing religions for the time being. Since 9/11 islam in the West has increased, not decreased. Since 9/11 islam has increased the world over. It will not last forever though, it will fall eventually, but not by bullets nor by bombs, for all bullets and bombs can do is rend flesh. If you do not believe me, it is an easy google search away from being known. It is no secret at all.
You speak well, there is not peace in this world. Therefore we must not side with the world and let the world fight its own wars.
You speak well, there is not peace in this world. Therefore we must not side with the world and let the world fight its own wars.
I think all you people who think this whole incident is about free speech need to google some of the Charlie Hebdo cartoons.
They are inappropriate, and pornographic. This is not about someone standing up and saying, "Muslims go home!" It is about the sexualization of every religion and political belief in the world, including Christianity.
While I do not agree with revenge that the Muslims took, neither do I think that these cartoons are appropriate to publish. If I was to post one here, I think the mods would be well within their rights to delete them, as they are sexually profane. Forget, that this was about Mohammed. I have no dout they showed Jesus in sexually inappropriate cartoons, too!
These cartoons were vile sexual pornography. And that should not be published!
They are inappropriate, and pornographic. This is not about someone standing up and saying, "Muslims go home!" It is about the sexualization of every religion and political belief in the world, including Christianity.
While I do not agree with revenge that the Muslims took, neither do I think that these cartoons are appropriate to publish. If I was to post one here, I think the mods would be well within their rights to delete them, as they are sexually profane. Forget, that this was about Mohammed. I have no dout they showed Jesus in sexually inappropriate cartoons, too!
These cartoons were vile sexual pornography. And that should not be published!
K
We're in the world not of it.They still have a right to print the cartoons without fear of being murdered.I haven't seen the cartoons but knew they weren't good.The issue is that Muslims are trying to begin a caliphate and force the rest of the world to become Muslim.If they dont like something or are offended they kick up such a fuss that we are changing the way we live because we're beginning to fear them.I dont agree with a lot of things out there and Im offended by a lot of things but I expect the world to act like the world.Its late so I dont know that Im making my point very well.Will try again tomorrow.