Germany building a European army?

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Mitspa

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Thanks for this thread. Realize that the US Secretary of Defense (Carter) is German the Bush family etc. mixed breeds with Brits and jews. Har-v-Ards Zuckerburg and the Bavarian illuminati, the 322 cult, the Levy's and Roths childs too. No tin foil hat needed. Oppenheimer was warned how hard and how bad it is for untrained (PhD's not with standing) Germans to restrain a Talmudic, Zionist system and how easy it is to fall for that serpent of kabbalah.
Wow ! The jews are killed because they are Gods chosen people and in the end many will come to Christ before the great battle .. The world government folks are both Jew and gentile but the Germans have always held a special hatred for the Jews (as has been clearly proven) as does those of the Islamic religion who have killed, raped and enslaved from the very foundation of their religion ...Great that these two forces of evil have now joined together ..im sure the Jews in Europe are thinking it might be time to move?
 

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Wow ! The jews are killed because they are Gods chosen people and in the end many will come to Christ before the great battle .. The world government folks are both Jew and gentile but the Germans have always held a special hatred for the Jews (as has been clearly proven) as does those of the Islamic religion who have killed, raped and enslaved from the very foundation of their religion ...Great that these two forces of evil have now joined together ..im sure the Jews in Europe are thinking it might be time to move?
We'll see how popular this nonsense will remain in Germany. The voter base there is also extremely upset with the current state of affairs.
 

tanakh

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Seventy-five percent of Europe was never under Roman rule, therefore the EU is not "the reconstituted Roman Empire."

And if you believe it is the old Roman Empire that represents the antichrist's base of power, the capitol would be in Rome. It won't be.
Good for you! Another mythology bites the dust. Prophecy Pundits often ignore that large parts of the Middle East and North Africa were also part of the Roman Empire.
 

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Hm, whats the problem with this? The antichrist and his system will come. And all processes which we see are serving to realize this system to the time the Lord has determined.
 
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Mitspa

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Hm, whats the problem with this? The antichrist and his system will come. And all processes which we see are serving to realize this system to the time the Lord has determined.
That's like saying why did we fight the Nazis and resist the communist ...The Lord has given us freedom and liberty, just like he gave Adam the garden ...It was Adams job to keep out the snakes ..its our job to keep our liberty.
 

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Most all of prophecy in the bible concerns the Middle East. At this point in Daniel chapter 11 the North is Iran and it's allies and the South is Saudi Arabia and it's allies. The horns refer to them.
 

wolfwint

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That's like saying why did we fight the Nazis and resist the communist ...The Lord has given us freedom and liberty, just like he gave Adam the garden ...It was Adams job to keep out the snakes ..its our job to keep our liberty.
Its not the same. Gods prophecies will come true.
Our job is not to fight against the coming antichrist system , but to spread the gospel according Matthew 28.
 
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Its not the same. Gods prophecies will come true.
Our job is not to fight against the coming antichrist system , but to spread the gospel according Matthew 28.
what if folks had said "oh this is prophetic" ..no need to resist it...when the Nazis had tried to take over the world? It would have been foolishness then and its foolishness now to say we are not responsible to keep and protect what God has given us to keep and protect.
 

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what if folks had said "oh this is prophetic" ..no need to resist it...when the Nazis had tried to take over the world? It would have been foolishness then and its foolishness now to say we are not responsible to keep and protect what God has given us to keep and protect.
Do what you think is right, but you dont will stop the antichrist ruling time and you dont will stop that this world will be destroyed. I mean not that it is wrong to fight for peace and freedom. But we have to recognice that the judge for this world we know is spoken. So its better to spread the gospel so long there is time for to do it, then to fight a fight were we have no order for.
 
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Do what you think is right, but you dont will stop the antichrist ruling time and you dont will stop that this world will be destroyed. I mean not that it is wrong to fight for peace and freedom. But we have to recognice that the judge for this world we know is spoken. So its better to spread the gospel so long there is time for to do it, then to fight a fight were we have no order for.
I'm not sure what you are saying?..Ive not suggested in anyway the gospel should be held back from this evil world but we don't lay down and let evil take over because some seem to think its obedience to their understanding of prophecy. If I was to tell folks what God is saying to His People the true church ..its stand and be bold against evil and I will back you up ...not give-up..God NEVER EVER speaks in that manner.
 

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-Nov. 16,2016 Superpower Europe

Spurred by the Brexit vote and the election of Donald Trump as United States president,
European leaders are racing to create a united European army.

German-Foreign-Policy.com delivered an e-mail alert this week titled “Superpower Europe.”
www.german-foreign-policy.com



-July 29, 2016 New German Paper Signals Dramatic Military Shift
https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/...-german-paper-signals-dramatic-military-shift



-April 2016 ‘A Greater Role for Nuclear Weapons’
https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/13618.24.183.0/world/nato/a-greater-role-for-nuclear-weapons


European leaders want to improve the Continent’s nuclear capability in response to
Russia’s invasion of Georgia and Ukraine
 

tanakh

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This idea has been doing the rounds for a number of years. Its another reason for UKs Brexit. There is also unncertainty about Trumps isolationist tendencies. How far will he support NATO and how close will he be to Putin?
 

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what if folks had said "oh this is prophetic" ..no need to resist it...
when the Nazis had tried to take over the world?
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Adolf Hitler was 17 years old, a radical change occurred in his life.
A friend close to Hitler was deeply shaken one day by his voice.

In his book called "The Psychopathic God" Robert G.L. Waite wrote:
‘It was as if another being spoke out of his body,
and moved him as much as it did me.

Now he saw himself, like Rienzi, as the messiah of his people.
He spoke of a ‘mandate which, one day, he would receive from
the people to lead them out of servitude to the heights of freedom.

-In 1926 Hitler said, “Christ was the greatest early fighter in the battle
against the world enemy, the Jews …. The work that Christ started but
could not finish, I—Adolf Hitler—will conclude”(John Toland, Adolf Hitler).

-His Holiness welcomed Hitler’s representative,Franz von Papen,
most graciously and remarked how pleased he was that the German
government now had at its head a man uncompromisingly opposed to
communism and Russian nihilism in all its forms.

“The Vatican was so appreciative of being recognized as a full partner
that it asked God to bless the Reich.On a more practical level, it ordered
German bishops to swear allegiance to the National Socialist regime.

‘In the performance of my spiritual office and in my solicitude for
the welfare and the interest of the German Reich, I will endeavor
to avoid all detrimental acts which might endanger it’”

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Many Catholics today don’t like to admit Hitler’s connection with Catholicism
Bernard Connolly wrote a bombshell book in 1995 titled The Rotten Heart of Europe


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Hitler considered the Jew to be the devil personified.
Jews suffered at Hitler’s hand more than any other race.

-in the Pasewalk Hospital, 1918-1919 that Hitler said (Waite, op. cit.)
He was the leader sent by destiny. He must answer the ‘voices’ that he
said he heard The voices told him to rescue his Motherland from
the Jews who had violated her” .

-After a speech at the Reichstag, an English observer,Maj. Francis Yeats
Brown, said this about Hitler: “Duringthe rhetorical passages his voice
mounted to the pitch of delirium: He was a man transformed and possessed.
We were in the presence of a miracle” It was a supernatural miracle!
Hitler was a “possessed” man.(Toland, op. cit.).

-Observers saw his “domineering manner” and noticed a “new phenomenon
as he entered the room.”,



“Then shall his mind change, and he shall passover, and offend,
imputing this his power unto his god.” Habakkuk 1:11 (KJV)
 

tanakh

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Whenever things get tough in societies people look for scapegoats. It has happened in history time and time again and there is always someone who will take advantage of the situation. The same thing is happening now in a number of places round the world.happening now
 

trofimus

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Am just resurrecting this, as France and Germany at it again,
wanting to build an EU army.

Hope Brexit is successful.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ary-european-commission-juncker-a8633196.html
I am for the EU army. US to the West, Russia and China to the East, islam to the South.

I have no idea why should be EU dependent on the USA for the defense or why it should stay to be a complicated cooperation of 27 independents national armies..?

Angela Merkel made a solid argument in 0:42: "At present we have over 160 defence systems and USA only 50"
 

prove-all

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Presedent Trump Plans to Tear Up a 31-Year-Old Nuclear Weapons Treaty. Now What?http://time.com/5430388/donald-trump-nuclear-weapons-treaty-inf-withdrawal/

What the INF Treaty means for the U.S. and Europe — and...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...u-s-and-europe-and-why-trump-mentioned-china/

Bible passages found in Daniel 2 and 7 and Revelation 13 and 17 describe a European
power made up of 10 nations or groups of nations that will appear in this end time.

“ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings
one hour with the beast.” This union of 10 kings is clearly a military union.

The Bible says these kings shall “make war” (ver 14).
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Nov 6 French President Emmanuel Macron called for a “real European army”

The Times called it “his strongest language yet on the need for an independent
defense force.” Typically European leaders have called for things like a
“European defense initiative” rather than an army. “We will not protect
the Europeans unless we decide to have a true European army,”

He also said, “We have to protect ourselves with respect to China, Russia
and even the United States of America.”
 

prove-all

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Nov 8 Emmanuel Macron unveils European defence coalition
https://www.theweek.co.uk/97636/emmanuel-macron-unveils-european-defence-coalition

Ten countries sign up following French president’s call for a ‘real European army’

A coalition of ten European militaries ready to defend the continent’s borders has been
unveiled in Paris, just days after Emmanuel Macron called for a “real European army”.

Finland has joined Germany, Belgium, Britain, Denmark, Estonia, the Netherlands, Spain
and Portugal in the French-led initiative, which will see members collaborate on planning,
on the analysis of new military and humanitarian crises, and on eventual military responses
to those crises......
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Reuters reports that the European Intervention Initiative took official shape in Paris
“after months of negotiations with Germany, who France wants at the centre of the force”.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-e...oalition-launched-in-paris-idUKKCN1NC295?il=0
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Macron’s push to bring together a core 10-nation coalition of the willing “was born out of
French impatience with the EU’s efforts at defence co-operation”, known as Permanent
Structured Co-operation (Pesco) says The Economist.
https://www.economist.com/europe/2018/06/28/emmanuel-macron-leads-a-new-effort-on-european-defence

The magazine says “Germany has been keen on this mechanism, which keeps efforts at joint
European defence within existing EU structures. Its critics, though, regard Pesco as a low-am-
bition pact that ropes in too many countries [25 in total], including those with little interest in
sending troops abroad, to be operationally useful.”
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Coming just days after Macron called for a “real European army” to reduce dependence
on the United States, and with the vocal support of senior figures in Brussels, the coalition
agreement will once again raising the spectre of a European Army.
https://www.theweek.co.uk/85860/should-europe-have-its-own-army
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Debating whether the UK should continue to defend its Western European allies, as it did
throughout the 20th century, or take a more detached position, RT Howard in the Daily
Telegraph argues “there is one compelling reason why our strategic ties with Western
Europe now deserve to be closer than ever before”.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/great-war-debate-should-uk-defend-europe/#atom-debate-no

“The reason is not that Western Europe is today confronted by threats any greater
than before” Howard writes, but rather “because of the increasingly fragile, fractious
state of the European Union.”
 

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Nov. 10 US President Donald Trump has criticised French President Emmanuel Macron's
recent statement calling for a ‘true European army’ to defend Europe against international
powers such as Russia, China and even the United States.
https://www.gulf-times.com/story/612444/Trump-criticises-Macron-s-call-for-united-European
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Nov. 12 France is ready for a European empire, according to French Finance Minister
Bruno Le Maire. “The ball is now in Berlin’s court,” he said in his interview with
Germany’s Handelsblatt newspaper.
https://global.handelsblatt.com/politics/french-finance-minister-need-european-empire-980351

The European Union should become “a peaceful empire” in order to stand up to China and the US,
Le Maire argued. And although thanks to their wartime history, some Germans may find his talk
of empire unattractive, Le Maire explains that, “I am using this phrase because, in tomorrow’s
world, it’s going to be all about power … technological power, economic, financial, monetary,
cultural power – all will be decisive. Europe cannot be shy any longer about using its power.”

Le Maire won’t go as far as to say that German politicians have been two-faced about European
unity. But he did set a small deadline: “We have talked about it for a long time. Now it’s time for
decisions. And there will be decisions made on December 4, at the next meeting of the economy
and finance ministers. I cannot imagine anything else.”

“Everybody knows it takes guts to stand in the way of Donald Trump’s administration,” Le Maire
said. “The people of Europe have had enough of the babble from Brussels. They want to see action.”