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Truth7t7

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While I'm against abortion except for extreme situations, I don't think reversing Roe v Wade is going to be effective in reducing abortions/deaths. The Prohibition didn't work; there was a lot of underground activity and an increase in crime. Gun control doesn't work in this country. Similarly, there is going to be a lot of underground activity with abortions. A lot doctors will continue to perform abortions, will they go to prison? Or, the women may end up going to Canada or Europe. A lot of women will probably die from illegal abortions, especially poor women who cannot afford to go to Canada or Europe.
I believe it will make everyone more accountable for their actions.

One thing I do know, killing the innocent unborn (Abortion) can't be condoned and allowed

The liberals have been pushing for euthanasia for years, next it will be close all elderly nursing homes and kill everybody 65+, no more social security needed or added medical cost

I know it sounds morbid and sick, but that's where the leftist commie liberals are heading.
 
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The government cannot condone the murder of babies. Whenever there is a law there can be a breaking of the law.
I think if the people want abortions (or euthanasia) and elect officials accordingly, there is not much the government can do. The government here works bottom up, not top down.
 

Truth7t7

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I think if the people want abortions (or euthanasia) and elect officials accordingly, there is not much the government can do. The government here works bottom up, not top down.
Sounds liberal leftist to me, you must live in DC, New York, Calif?

The commie liberals are shut down for decades, it's gonna be a completely new America.

In another month America will have a majority conservative Supreme Court, it's been liberal for decades, and that's why we're in chaos.

It was a God thing that Ruth Ginsburg died, she had the best doctors money could buy, is all they needed was another 6 weeks of life for Ginsburg and a dream of a Biden win, didn't happen.
 
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TheIndianGirl

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Sounds liberal leftist to me, you must live in DC, New York, Calif?

The commie liberals are shut down for decades, it's gonna be a completely new America.

In another month America will have a majority conservative Supreme Court, it's been liberal for decades, and that's why we're in chaos.

It was a God thing that Ruth Ginsburg died, she had the best doctors money could buy, is all they needed was another 6 weeks of life for Ginsburg and a dream of a Biden win, didn't happen.
I live in DC. Are you calling me, or something else, a liberal leftist?
 

shittim

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Morally there is a difference between right and wrong, a majority that allows or is apathetic to the murder of the unborn does not make it right.
We are accountable to our Creator for every thought, word and deed.
 

Truth7t7

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Roe v Wade will never be reversed....imho
I believe shortly you will witness the Federal legal definition of human life and the (Human Being) (Person) at conception, Roe v Wade will be reversed as unconstitutional under the 14th Amendment (Person)

14th Amendment Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
 
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EleventhHour

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I believe shortly you will witness the Federal legal definition of human life and the (Human Being) (Person) at conception, Roe v Wade will be reversed as unconstitutional under the 14th Amendment (Person)

14th Amendment Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
We shall see, we can always hope and pray.
 

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I believe Amy Barrett will be President Trump's pick this Fri/Sat

Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett are Pro-Life and have a historical record of such, Roe V. Wade is on the exit soon.

I see President Trump's Nominee on a fast track to confirmation, sworn in before the Nov 3rd election.

History:

Justice John P. Stevens, 20 days
Justice Sandra Day OcConnor, 33 days
I believe that Trump will nominate Barbara Lagoa, a 52 year old Hispanic judge from Florida. Besides being solidly pro-life, it will help him win Florida if this pick is acceptable to the large Hispanic population in Miami where she is from. If the Democrats try to disparage her this may not set well with the Hispanic population and some women in general. This is probably the best play for Trump on this stage of the game. Also, all Republican Senators are now onboard with proceeding with the hearing and eventual confirmation vote. Trump has been handed a gift from God and you can bet that he will make the most of it.
 
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EleventhHour

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I believe shortly you will witness the Federal legal definition of human life and the (Human Being) (Person) at conception, Roe v Wade will be reversed as unconstitutional under the 14th Amendment (Person)

14th Amendment Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
The challenge here is that a baby before it is born is not considered a person.
 

Truth7t7

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I believe that Trump will nominate Barbara Lagoa, a 52 year old Hispanic judge from Florida. Besides being solidly pro-life, it will help him win Florida if this pick is acceptable to the large Hispanic population in Miami where she is from. If the Democrats try to disparage her this may not set well with the Hispanic population and some women in general. This is probably the best play for Trump on this stage of the game. Also, all Republican Senators are now onboard with proceeding with the hearing and eventual confirmation vote. Trump has been handed a gift from God and you can bet that he will make the most of it.
I watched Trump in a interview yesterday, he was directly asked about Lagos, and didn't seen excited, played it down

Amy Coney Barrett has already been to the Whitehouse on Monday, she was the frontrunner when Kavanaugh was nominated.

I researched Lagoa, she has a father in law (Paul Huck) who is a Federal District Judge Over Florida, (Nominated By Bill Clinton)

I Hope President Trump stays clear of Lagoa, on that association alone, IMHO

I can't disregard your reasoning on the Hispanic Florida connection, we will know Fri/Sat?
 

Truth7t7

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The challenge here is that a baby before it is born is not considered a person.
I fully agree the (Liberal) court has defined a fetus is not a person.

The interpretation will change under a conservative court, when the human beings life starts at conception a (Person) is seen.

Under the 14th Amendment, the (Person) is protected from being deprived of (Life)

14th Amendment Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
 

shittim

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It is in the Creators eyes, and we the created cannot change that.
 

Truth7t7

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The challenge here is that a baby before it is born is not considered a person.
A fetus is a human being (Person) when it comes to being a victim of crime, 38 States recognize the fetus as a living human (Person) as a victim.

The soon to be conservative Supreme Court will see it the same, as the 14th Amendment will protect the (Person) in the mothers womb, yes Roe V. Wade will be reversed (y)

"nor shall any state deprive any person of life"

Wikipedia: Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law which recognizes an embryo or fetus in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb."[1]

employees, and by members of the military. In addition, it covers certain crimes that are defined by statute as federal offenses wherever they occur, no matter who commits them, such as certain crimes of terrorism.

Because of principles of federalism embodied in the United States Constitution, federal criminal law does not apply to crimes prosecuted by the individual states. However, 38 states also recognize the fetus or "unborn child" as a crime victim, at least for purposes of homicide or feticide.[2]
 

shittim

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I hope the person nominated and approved is the one God wants in that position, He always has the best plan.
 

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How many times have we been lied to? We've been told many times that Roe V Wade would be overthrown. I seriously doubt that it will.
 

shittim

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Evil rules when there aren't enough to walk in righteousness, He gave us dominion, we got the government we deserved.
Now there is a remnant who are rising up in fervent and effectual prayer, we are either part of the solution or part of the problem.
 

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I watched Trump in a interview yesterday, he was directly asked about Lagos, and didn't seen excited, played it down

Amy Coney Barrett has already been to the Whitehouse on Monday, she was the frontrunner when Kavanaugh was nominated.

I researched Lagoa, she has a father in law (Paul Huck) who is a Federal District Judge Over Florida, (Nominated By Bill Clinton)

I Hope President Trump stays clear of Lagoa, on that association alone, IMHO

I can't disregard your reasoning on the Hispanic Florida connection, we will know Fri/Sat?
The next few weeks should prove to be very interesting with the drama over the Supreme Court vacancy, the first presidential debate in a week, and the remaining days left leading up to Nov 3.
 

shittim

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Yes, and we of genuine faith are called to stay in fervent effectual prayer for this, and continuing for the protection, provision, blessing and favor for the administration and all connected, the devil is pulling out all stops for he knows his time is short.
 

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I think it's morally repugnant to celebrate someone's death just because you disagree with her politics
 
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And, yes I have judged Trump and I dislike judging. So I will pray on this. But, I cannot trust a person who lies, denigrates women, the military, who does not understand how our government works, who is a serial adulterer, who has said nasty things to so many people. That is not "christian".
Translation: I hate President Trump but I disapprove of anyone calling out ginsberg for her demonic support of abortion and circumventing the Constitution. You need to read Proverbs and overcome your foolishness.