GOP Presidential Nomination

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Kinda like Obama did? Man...he was so full of substance that his cup has spillethed over into baby parts for sale, the supreme court redefining marriage and 4 dead hero's in Bengazi who were killed by people who were mad about a you tube video. Whatever man. Your brain has been sabotaged by Hillary fever.
If the concern is getting an inexperienced candidate like as Obama that is all the more reason why Fiorina, Carson, and Trump show themselves to be the weakest of the GOP candidates and why Kasich and Bush are the logical best picks of the field to face off against Hillary.
 
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If the concern is getting an inexperienced candidate like as Obama that is all the more reason why Fiorina, Carson, and Trump show themselves to be the weakest of the GOP candidates and why Kasich and Bush are the logical best picks of the field to face off against Hillary.
Ya...more of the same is exactly what we need. It's turned out so well for us.:rolleyes:
 
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Ya...more of the same is exactly what we need. It's turned out so well for us.:rolleyes:
We're engaged in one of the most epic wars of history and America is on the brink of shattering. Can't take a chance of getting another Obama-like nooby such as Fiorina and Carson. Hillary and Bush ain't perfect, but they could get the job done. Kasich is the only feasible alternative to the Clinton-Bush paradigm. Kasich is much better than both Hillary and Bush, and pretty much all the candidates going by record and ability to unite the GOP. Kasich quite easily is the best presidential candidate America has had emerge in decades, but he lacks the stardom of the two dynasty warriors. It will be interesting to see how the campaign continues now that it is in high gear.
 
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*Yawn.* I can't excited about any of them... especially when I am a far better choice for president than ANY of them.
 

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ill agree on one point. if kasich got the republican nod i would pick him over hillary hands down.
 

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We're engaged in one of the most epic wars of history and America is on the brink of shattering. Can't take a chance of getting another Obama-like nooby such as Fiorina and Carson. Hillary and Bush ain't perfect, but they could get the job done. Kasich is the only feasible alternative to the Clinton-Bush paradigm. Kasich is much better than both Hillary and Bush, and pretty much all the candidates going by record and ability to unite the GOP. Kasich quite easily is the best presidential candidate America has had emerge in decades, but he lacks the stardom of the two dynasty warriors. It will be interesting to see how the campaign continues now that it is in high gear.
I like Kasich too. He impressed me during the debate.

Clinton-Bush is a depressing thought.
 
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I still like Ben Carson. He was cool, calm, collected, didn't even get rattled when he stumbled a bit.

 
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I still like Ben Carson. He was cool, calm, collected, didn't even get rattled when he stumbled a bit.

Carson did okay in the debate, he really saved himself with his closing statement, but his vague answers in the debate pretty much only served to reinforce my view that he would be better off running for another position to accumulate experience for a future presidential run.

Another thought is that if one of the much better qualified GOP candidates succeeds in becoming president that perhaps Carson could serve within such an administration as Surgeon General, HHS Secretary, etc. One of the strengths of the GOP this year in terms of their large field is that if they can get a strong Uniter like Rubio or Kasich they could use the large field to their advantage to form a technocratic GOP administration.
 
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[video=youtube;VrjzWU1BwPw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrjzWU1BwPw[/video]
 
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Been seeing that Kasich has been picking up some steam in New Hampshire. He also gave a pretty good speech too in Iowa. Interesting on C-SPAN with callers of all stripes. Thought it be a nice little break from the Trump mania

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMEKQNn-15A
[video=youtube;oMEKQNn-15A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMEKQNn-15A[/video]

Kasich clearly the best GOP pick. Even beating Hillary aside, Kasich clearly is the best to reunite the GOP and keep it from splintering and to actually make the GOP look professional.
 

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Not to derail but does Finis coronat opus mean the ends justifies the means?
 
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Not to derail but does Finis coronat opus mean the ends justifies the means?
The literal translation is "the end crowns the work," but has been loosely interpreted as expressing your statement.
 
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Okay political junkies!

The 2016 engines are starting and I'm quite thankful that they will dominate the news for some time to come.

Now is the time for some wild speculation and I would like to submit this piece:

Jim Geraghty’s Off-Kilter 2016 Rundown | National Review Online

I would like to know what you all think about Geraghty's rankings.

For those who have not the time to read three pages, I will give ya'll the rundown.


Tier 1:

Scott Walker

Marco Rubio

Rick Perry

Bobby Jindal


Tier 2:

Jeb Bush

Mitt Romney

Chris Christie

Rand Paul

Ted Cruz

Mike Huckabee

Rick Santorum

Ben Carson


Tier 3:

Carly Fiorina

John Kasich

Mike Pence


Thoughts?
I think Jeb Bush might be a good candidate. I was most impressed with a comment he made about how our government is taking away our religious freedom.
 

RickyZ

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The literal translation is "the end crowns the work," but has been loosely interpreted as expressing your statement.
Sooo, does the ends justify the means? Paul said that either by pure or false motives, he rejoiced that Christ was preached. Is it ok for politicians to lie and deceive for the better good (he asks knowing it is a wholly rhetorical question).
 
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Well the list is cast for the CNN debate next week. The tourney of presidential squires and knights will be held at the Reagan Library in California. Pretty much same Top 10 knights in the FOX trial. CNN has pushed the rules to make a Top 11 to accommodate Lady Fiorina.

Carly Fiorina will appear in top-tier CNN Reagan Library debate - CNNPolitics.com

Wonder what the debate soon to come will be like? Just my little analysis of the race thus far and leading into it, maybe more just me bored and musing. The Don of Trump prepares for the massive joust and tourney it seemeth by making petty verbal slashes to provoke his currently popular GOP rivals before the real joust. It does indeed seem I misjudged this knight of New York's ambition. He does seem in it to try to win it this time round. He has four potential people to take him on. Lady Fiorina, Sir Carson, Prince Rand of the House of Paul, and maybe Prince Jeb of the House of Bush all seem like they may parry and spar with him.

We'll see if Kasich can maintain his strong defense. Trump is going all out it and it seems recently Sir Cruz, Knight of the Tea Party, has allied himself with The Don recently. Also Sir Huckabee has made himself shown strong lately questing for the people. Prince Rand Paul and The Duke of Jersey also have their own little side duel left open from the first round.

It seems Kasich is the one best with shield keeping the chivalric Reagan Rule now that Carson has been called out to battle with Trump. Even still as the only main contender; how long can Kasich keep to the Reagan Rule in the face of a melee of a debate? Not a disqualifier to the other candidates in the overall race of course keeping to Reagan rule or not, but just a fun little side plot to watch, especially given the place of the tournament.

Lol 2015 GOP political melee, Arthurian style.
 
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Desdichado

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I think of it as more of a professional wrestling match.
 
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"Is that Scott Walker with a desk chair?"
Lol I wouldn't be surprised if Scott Walker threw in the towel, he's not going to win, the competition is too strong. This is not a common GOP tourney. Went from the big tent to the circus to a right on joust, Sir Desdichado. Who is Ivanhoe? Though to be forthright with ye I never finished that book before I got bored of it, so I suppose I am Wamba in this regard lol.