How do you respond, How can Christians vote for Trump?

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kaylagrl

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I voted for Trump but I have trouble answering this question. Overall I think he supports the issues Christians care about, but his personal life/morality leave a lot to be desired. People always point out his divorces, cheating on his marriages with porn stars, disrespectful to women, boastful, anti-immigrant/racist, the list goes on.

What is your best response, especially about his personal life? People don't buy the "everyone is a sinner" argument.

Does anyone else have to defend who they vote for? Why does the far left, who hate Christians, suddenly care about morality?! It's hilarious to me. Let's uncover everyones sins in Washington and see who's left standing. The far left, who booed God, I say they booed God, at their convention and hissed at Jerusalem being the capitol of Israel and are pushing a socialist agenda, open borders, gay/trans AND infanticide has NO RIGHT pointing at Christians !!! And yes, I know that was a run on sentence. But that annoys the crap out of me. And then Hollywood, Hollywood joins in!! As if they aren't the den of inequity of the whole country. So spare me the nonsense of the MSM. Trump is human and flawed. If you're a Christian, pray for him if you aren't you're in the same boat you say he is. That's what I tell people. Perfect people don't go to heaven, forgiven people do.
 

Lightskin

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Does anyone else have to defend who they vote for? Why does the far left, who hate Christians, suddenly care about morality?! It's hilarious to me. Let's uncover everyones sins in Washington and see who's left standing. The far left, who booed God, I say they booed God, at their convention and hissed at Jerusalem being the capitol of Israel and are pushing a socialist agenda, open borders, gay/trans AND infanticide has NO RIGHT pointing at Christians !!! And yes, I know that was a run on sentence. But that annoys the crap out of me. And then Hollywood, Hollywood joins in!! As if they aren't the den of inequity of the whole country. So spare me the nonsense of the MSM. Trump is human and flawed. If you're a Christian, pray for him if you aren't you're in the same boat you say he is. That's what I tell people. Perfect people don't go to heaven, forgiven people do.
Don’t hold back, sister. 😎❤️
Merry Christmas 🎁🎄
 

Moses_Young

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I’m hiring a president, not a preacher. Samson has his Delilah, and yet he was God’s instrument to knock down the temple of the Philistines.
Great comment! Samson was God's tool, and in a single encounter slew a thousand uncircumcised philistines with an ass's jawbone. How many democrat asses is Trump going to vanquish after their desperate impeachment attempt?
 

KhedetOrthos

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Does anyone else have to defend who they vote for? Why does the far left, who hate Christians, suddenly care about morality?! It's hilarious to me. Let's uncover everyones sins in Washington and see who's left standing. The far left, who booed God, I say they booed God, at their convention and hissed at Jerusalem being the capitol of Israel and are pushing a socialist agenda, open borders, gay/trans AND infanticide has NO RIGHT pointing at Christians !!! And yes, I know that was a run on sentence. But that annoys the crap out of me. And then Hollywood, Hollywood joins in!! As if they aren't the den of inequity of the whole country. So spare me the nonsense of the MSM. Trump is human and flawed. If you're a Christian, pray for him if you aren't you're in the same boat you say he is. That's what I tell people. Perfect people don't go to heaven, forgiven people do.
Boom!

That may have just raised you to the status of most eligible bachelorette here (if in fact you are a bachelorette),,,
 

kaylagrl

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Boom!

That may have just raised you to the status of most eligible bachelorette here (if in fact you are a bachelorette),,,
Rofl, thank you, but thanks to my hubby about five yrs ago I am no longer single. But I was in my 40s so it was a close call!! lol
 
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Yes, and that is the question the people of America have to respond to.

Personally I think Trump’s politics is good economically speaking, and I have to respect that Trump has created many new jobs on his watch. These are important things to consider for many when pondering on whom to vote for.

It may not be fair that people like myself should be morally condemning those who are living from paycheck to paycheck and barely getting by, because they are voting for Trump. He has done good things for them.

I have to be very honest. Economic wise it makes no difference to me who’s president, so I can just sit back and be criticizing those who are dependent on the versatility of the economy. I can see now how wrong that sentiment is.

Bread comes first. Not my first world problems.
There are some that are filing bankruptcy and I Imagine their kids are suffering to some degree but they are still voting for trump.
 
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Susanna

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There are some that are filing bankruptcy and I Imagine their kids are suffering to some degree but they are still voting for trump.
Well, there’s one (amongst many other things) peculiar thing about politics. Some people don’t vote for the candidate gaining their particular situation, but for the candidate that is best for situation they’d like to be in.

Poor people will continue voting for the candidates cutting the taxes for the rich. I guess this is some twisted version of the American dream. Everyone can get rich if they work hard enough. So why don’t we have a lot of rich people? Is it because we’re lazy, or is it because the system, also supported by poor people, is making sure that social mobility is too hard to achieve?
 
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Does anyone else have to defend who they vote for? Why does the far left, who hate Christians, suddenly care about morality?! It's hilarious to me. Let's uncover everyones sins in Washington and see who's left standing. The far left, who booed God, I say they booed God, at their convention and hissed at Jerusalem being the capitol of Israel and are pushing a socialist agenda, open borders, gay/trans AND infanticide has NO RIGHT pointing at Christians !!! And yes, I know that was a run on sentence. But that annoys the crap out of me. And then Hollywood, Hollywood joins in!! As if they aren't the den of inequity of the whole country. So spare me the nonsense of the MSM. Trump is human and flawed. If you're a Christian, pray for him if you aren't you're in the same boat you say he is. That's what I tell people. Perfect people don't go to heaven, forgiven people do.
You’re a Christian and Christians should prefer truth.
Both parties are political and IMO,cant be trusted to be unbiased and that’s why a Christian should want a fair trial meaning wanting to hear witnesses with the constitution of the United States as the guideline.
 

kaylagrl

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You’re a Christian and Christians should prefer truth.
Both parties are political and IMO,cant be trusted to be unbiased and that’s why a Christian should want a fair trial meaning wanting to hear witnesses with the constitution of the United States as the guideline.

I do prefer the truth, we already know the truth. The transcript is there for anyone to read. This hasn't been fair from the beginning and I wouldn't trust Shifty Schiff or Pelosi as far as I could throw them. They are the bigeest sore losers and liars I have ever seen. We have to get this man out of office, they said, he's too dangerous to the country they said, then Pelosi sits on her round behind and slow walks the impeachment articles. No, they are liars, they're evil and I hope people in this country smarten up and wake up before Dems get into power again.
 

KhedetOrthos

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...is it because the system, also supported by poor people, is making sure that social mobility is too hard to achieve?
This is precisely it, Susanna. The harder you work, the more you earn, the higher your progressive tax rate goes putting a damper on social mobility. Meanwhile, the really wealthy shield their incomes as stock options or capital gains and pay a fixed 15% tax rate on 7, 8, or 9 figure incomes. It’s not that people resent the rich for being rich, it’s that they resent this sort of a two tiered system that they take advantage of.
 

Deade

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There are some that are filing bankruptcy and I Imagine their kids are suffering to some degree but they are still voting for trump.
Yes, we must realize we are in a fallen world. But God's timing of things and His prophecy must stand. Christianity is good, and it is good for a government to acknowledge that. In order to preserve our religious freedom, we need to keep government away from our religion. This country was founded with that in mind, and we have been blessed for that.

The point I am trying to make is we need to stand against evil in order to make our environment livable. The Dems are trying to take away our freedom of speech by giving such as homosexuals, transvestites, cross gender, etc. privileged status so we can't speak against it.

The Dem's platform is derived from a mindset that government can fix everything. That has been proven false by history. Big government produces big waste and disorder. Because when evil people get in a position of power, Satan takes over.

You’re a Christian and Christians should prefer truth.
Both parties are political and IMO,cant be trusted to be unbiased and that’s why a Christian should want a fair trial meaning wanting to hear witnesses with the constitution of the United States as the guideline.
Everything has been brought out and exposed for the sham it is. Just look at the people behind the impeachment, and listen to their words carefully. If you can't make out their agenda, you must be blind. :cautious:
 

Melach

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President Trump’s personal life has not interfered in his success as President. There is nothing you can say to rabid haters except, MAGA! Then shake the dust off your feet.
viva deportitos!

im not american but id vote for trump because he looks like a guy with some testosterone. mostly effeminates running for office these days especially here where i live, literally our next president leading in polls is ga*y, could be first g*y president in the world. he was second in last election but now first cause current one isnt running again. he is now our foreign minister. wonder how the relations are to arab countries they dont appreciate that kind of thing, imagine visiting and its two dudes in saudi arabia lolz. #nohatespeech #dontputmeinsensitivitytraining

but its not all effeminate men because all our party leaders are women now even our prime minister. it was even in world news we have woman prime minsiter in her 30s. just another day where im a misogynist racist fascist homophobic transphobi so many words they invent. im straight nationalist white meat eating christian. could it be any worse? in today's world im the worst lolz. because i believe all people should have their own nation i also support state of israel on top of that
 

Moses_Young

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viva deportitos!

im not american but id vote for trump because he looks like a guy with some testosterone. mostly effeminates running for office these days especially here where i live, literally our next president leading in polls is ga*y, could be first g*y president in the world. he was second in last election but now first cause current one isnt running again. he is now our foreign minister. wonder how the relations are to arab countries they dont appreciate that kind of thing, imagine visiting and its two dudes in saudi arabia lolz. #nohatespeech #dontputmeinsensitivitytraining

but its not all effeminate men because all our party leaders are women now even our prime minister. it was even in world news we have woman prime minsiter in her 30s. just another day where im a misogynist racist fascist homophobic transphobi so many words they invent. im straight nationalist white meat eating christian. could it be any worse? in today's world im the worst lolz. because i believe all people should have their own nation i also support state of israel on top of that
I think this is true. Around the world, so-called political leaders are either female, or effeminate males. Usually to the point that female politicians are more ballsy than their emasculated male counterparts.

They hate Trump, because he is a man, acting like a man should, and working to extricate the vampires from around the neck of America.
 
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I do prefer the truth, we already know the truth. The transcript is there for anyone to read. This hasn't been fair from the beginning and I wouldn't trust Shifty Schiff or Pelosi as far as I could throw them. They are the bigeest sore losers and liars I have ever seen. We have to get this man out of office, they said, he's too dangerous to the country they said, then Pelosi sits on her round behind and slow walks the impeachment articles. No, they are liars, they're evil and I hope people in this country smarten up and wake up before Dems get into power again.
You said you prefer truth then your response after that seems to say BUT Schiff and Pelosi are not being fair.

Ok maybe so
But the question remains should there be a trial with witnesses?
 

calibob

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You’re a Christian and Christians should prefer truth.
Both parties are political and IMO,cant be trusted to be unbiased and that’s why a Christian should want a fair trial meaning wanting to hear witnesses with the constitution of the United States as the guideline.
Impeachment does not equal a guilty verdict. Remember Clinton?

Christians are often deceived by rich and charismatic folks. Many of which are con men carrying Bibles. Remember Jim Bakker?
 

kaylagrl

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You said you prefer truth then your response after that seems to say BUT Schiff and Pelosi are not being fair.

Ok maybe so
But the question remains should there be a trial with witnesses?
They have wanted Trump out since day one. Before he sat his behind in the chair. This isn't about being fair, this is about a coup of the country. There is no maybe about it. If you don't see it you're either being willfully blind, or you don't know what's going on.
 

kaylagrl

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viva deportitos!

im not american but id vote for trump because he looks like a guy with some testosterone. mostly effeminates running for office these days especially here where i live, literally our next president leading in polls is ga*y, could be first g*y president in the world. he was second in last election but now first cause current one isnt running again. he is now our foreign minister. wonder how the relations are to arab countries they dont appreciate that kind of thing, imagine visiting and its two dudes in saudi arabia lolz. #nohatespeech #dontputmeinsensitivitytraining

but its not all effeminate men because all our party leaders are women now even our prime minister. it was even in world news we have woman prime minsiter in her 30s. just another day where im a misogynist racist fascist homophobic transphobi so many words they invent. im straight nationalist white meat eating christian. could it be any worse? in today's world im the worst lolz. because i believe all people should have their own nation i also support state of israel on top of that
I don't have a problem with a woman in power, I just don't know one I think is worthy of electing. If the gay man running on the Dem side gets into office, heaven help us, he's a hater of Christians and will make life hell for us.
 
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They have wanted Trump out since day one. Before he sat his behind in the chair. This isn't about being fair, this is about a coup of the country. There is no maybe about it. If you don't see it you're either being willfully blind, or you don't know what's going on.
I guess my direct question was bypassed for a political response.sigh.