How do you respond, How can Christians vote for Trump?

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bojack

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Obama's fake birth cerfiticate??? Even Trump himself acknowledged the validity of Obama's birth certificate....
Actually it is a fake .. When they finally got it to court, Obama's lawyers plead ''no contest''
 

bojack

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Impeachment does not equal a guilty verdict. Remember Clinton?

Christians are often deceived by rich and charismatic folks. Many of which are con men carrying Bibles. Remember Jim Bakker?
Jim Bakker has got a show now and it's pretty good imo .. jus sayin
 

Susanna

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Actually it is a fake .. When they finally got it to court, Obama's lawyers plead ''no contest''
But that is not true, Mr bojack. It’s what most people would consider...hmm... what’s the correct wording here...? Oh yeah: A blatant lie.
 
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They have wanted Trump out since day one. Before he sat his behind in the chair. This isn't about being fair, this is about a coup of the country. There is no maybe about it. If you don't see it you're either being willfully blind, or you don't know what's going on.
One thing I have noticed that astonishes me Is the democrats and the republicans feel equally as strong against each other.How would a christian find the truth If both sides are blind?Can you give me a reasonable answer without taking a side?If you can I would greatly appreciate It:).
 

calibob

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I guess my direct question was bypassed for a political response.sigh.
I thought it was a political question. Can Christians Vote for Trump? Sure I've known some who read horoscopes from the news paper 'for fun' and pray to Mary too. But I won't.
 

Kojikun

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Elections matter, but if you're a conservative and looking for something more than a holding pattern when you vote, I've got news for you- it's too late. Those decisions were made months if not years ago at primaries and party conventions.

Right now, your realistic alternative to Donald Trump is a Democratic candidate who will increase funding for the slaughter of children and appoint heathen judges who will cheer it on. They will produce legislation that will make you bake the cake. The Department of Education will renew its push to mix bathrooms and enforce pro-LGBTQ curriculum.

I'll take a braggart and a lecher over systematic tyranny.
Ah, fair point. Not found of Trump as president but I'll always take him over another Clinton.
 
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Just a thought....Some might say,If Pete Budigeche wins,then I wasn’t voting for a person to not have flaws but I was voting for a president.
 

kaylagrl

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One thing I have noticed that astonishes me Is the democrats and the republicans feel equally as strong against each other.How would a christian find the truth If both sides are blind?Can you give me a reasonable answer without taking a side?If you can I would greatly appreciate It:).
Well, first I'd have to ask what truth are you wanting to find? Are you talking spiritually? Or are we simply talking politics?
 

kaylagrl

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Just a thought....Some might say,If Pete Budigeche wins,then I wasn’t voting for a person to not have flaws but I was voting for a president.
But that's different because his policies are against everything Christians stand for, he and the Dem party. Every president has personal flaws and many claim to be Christians and do things that aren't. Pete might get in, and if he does I believe God has allowed it for a reason beyond my understanding. My job is to vote for the person I feel is best for the country. Trump has come against abortion, in a way "Christian" presidents haven't, he stands behind Israel, he supports Christians, he's against socialism, against open borders. I don't see how anyone could vote for the radical Dem party, let alone a Christian.
 
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Well, first I'd have to ask what truth are you wanting to find? Are you talking spiritually? Or are we simply talking politics?
Cmon,truth Is truth.You don’t have to be deceptive like politicians.Christians should be able be WISE but harmless and Christians should be the lead for truth and not carnal looking just like the wolf that they are calling a wolf.
 
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But that's different because his policies are against everything Christians stand for, he and the Dem party. Every president has personal flaws and many claim to be Christians and do things that aren't. Pete might get in, and if he does I believe God has allowed it for a reason beyond my understanding. My job is to vote for the person I feel is best for the country. Trump has come against abortion, in a way "Christian" presidents haven't, he stands behind Israel, he supports Christians, he's against socialism, against open borders. I don't see how anyone could vote for the radical Dem party, let alone a Christian.
I guess then I understand and agree with you but someone might ask Isn’t GOD also against division,deception and a Bold liar?
 

TheIndianGirl

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I am not really seeing answers that directly respond to my question on Trump's morality. All of the responses seem to lean towards implying that Trump's morality does not meet Christian standards for a leader. I see some of you said something alone the lines of, why should we answer to Democrats?, or so what?, or eveyone is a sinner, or he's done all these other great things. The issue is we preach about righteousness and so we should have ideally chosen a Ted Cruz or Ben Carson type (a godly man). A lot of evangelicals, esp in the Ted Cruz camp, did not vote at all in the election because doing so went against their conscience.
 

TheIndianGirl

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I'm not sure if pointing to King David gives Trump a pass. God wasn't happy with King David's morality.
 

kaylagrl

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Cmon,truth Is truth.You don’t have to be deceptive like politicians.
So I ask you to clarify a question and you come back with a nasty and accusing comment. Can you tell me what I said to deserve that?



Christians should be able be WISE but harmless
And yet you called me deceptive.




and Christians should be the lead for truth and not carnal looking just like the wolf that they are calling a wolf.
You're giving your personal opinion,and you're making a judgement call.
 
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Again, that's your opinion and perception.
That's what I'm talking about right here an example,you said I'm giving an opinion and the bible says a liar won't tarry In GODs sight.How Is stating what the bible says giving my opinion?Politicians be talking about alternative facts,someone has got to be willfully blind to accept non sense like that as hmmm maybe alternative facts means truth.
 

kaylagrl

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That's what I'm talking about right here an example,you said I'm giving an opinion and the bible says a liar won't tarry In GODs sight.How Is stating what the bible says giving my opinion?
I'm not talking about the Bible. Im talking about your perception of Trump.
 
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I'm not talking about the Bible. Im talking about your perception of Trump.
Not sure exactly what you mean but If the constitution Is to be followed then he qualifies to be Impeached otherwise we should change the constitution.
 

kaylagrl

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Not sure exactly what you mean but If the constitution Is to be followed then he qualifies to be Impeached otherwise we should change the constitution.
No, he doesn't. He didn't do anything against the law. But the Dems are digging to pin him with something.