Is it immoral (offensive to God) to limited immigration?

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notmyown

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Patrick66 said:
As an American and as a Christian I believe that the U.S. SHOULD welcome ALL who want to come on one condition; that they pledge their agreement that they will respect and abide by the U.S. Constitution rather than, for example, Sharia law or some other belief system.
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historically, the US is about the most generous nation in the world in terms of immigration, but every civilized country in the world has immigration law. immigration is lawfully limited in number because people coming in to the country need time to find a place, a job, and hopefully assimilate. oh, and maybe even learn English. :D
my ancestors were immigrants. they didn't try to make this nation into the one they left.

if you don't like the law, you change it. you don't just ignore it.

speaking of Sharia, check out Dearborn in my home state of Michigan. i doubt it's the only place like it in the US, too. also, nobody's making any promises at either of our borders; they're just entering. hhhhhhhhhh!
 
notmyown

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Patrick66 said:
With that said, I do believe that Jesus wants us to welcome immigrants and treat them like the brothers and sisters in Christ that they are.
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do you believe every person entering the country is a Christian? :unsure:
 
AcceptedintheBeloved

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notmyown said:
historically, the US is about the most generous nation in the world in terms of immigration, but every civilized country in the world has immigration law. immigration is lawfully limited in number because people coming in to the country need time to find a place, a job, and hopefully assimilate. oh, and maybe even learn English. :D
my ancestors were immigrants. they didn't try to make this nation into the one they left.

if you don't like the law, you change it. you don't just ignore it.

speaking of Sharia, check out Dearborn in my home state of Michigan. i doubt it's the only place like it in the US, too. also, nobody's making any promises at either of our borders; they're just entering. hhhhhhhhhh!
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Right! No pledge of allegiance to the US Flag. Most hate Gringos (Americans).
 
notmyown

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AcceptedintheBeloved said:
Right! No pledge of allegiance to the US Flag. Most hate Gringos (Americans).
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in good conscience, even i don't pledge allegiance to a flag. only to the Lord Jesus. i know that probably sounds sanctimonious... i don't mean it that way, but i take that sort of thing seriously. :giggle:
 
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It is immoral to create a society that does not address the needs of the poor and the ability to sustain existence and an enviroment that creates opportunities to improve and thrive. It is not immoral to defend borders to prevent undesirables to enter any country that would erode whatever freedom or opportunity was available to the citizens that were already established.
 
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Patrick66 said:
What does God say about immigrants?

“When a stranger resides with you in your land, you shall not wrong him. The stranger who resides with you shall be to you as one of your citizens; you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt” (Lev. 19:33-34).

Exodus 22:21 ESV
“You shall not wrong a sojourner or oppress him, for you were sojourners in the land of Egypt.

Numbers 15:15-16 ESV
For the assembly, there shall be one statute for you and for the stranger who sojourns with you, a statute forever throughout your generations. You and the sojourner shall be alike before the Lord. One law and one rule shall be for you and for the stranger who sojourns with you.”

Of course, Heaven and God's kingdom-to-come have entry requirements.

Is Israel justified to limit who can emigrate there? Are Israel's Jews obligated to become a minority in the only Jewish nation in the world?

As an American and as a Christian I believe that the U.S. SHOULD welcome ALL who want to come on one condition; that they pledge their agreement that they will respect and abide by the U.S. Constitution rather than, for example, Sharia law or some other belief system.

As a Christian, what are your thoughts, please?
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Americans that are here now are here now because their ancestors came here. I'm surprised that a Christian would dislike or disagree with your post when used scripture.
 
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seed_time_harvest said:
Americans that are here now are here now because their ancestors came here. I'm surprised that a Christian would dislike or disagree with your post when used scripture.
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Anyone who isn't touched by the plight of those in need probably isn't a Christian. But anyone who believes what is happening at the border is the best way to address those needs has given their brains the day off.

It isn't compassionate to allow cartels to prey on and make slaves of people for their own profit. Neither is is in anyone's interest to allow evil people to prosper at the expense of the weakest amongst us.

If you don't realize the way human suffering is being multiplied the way things are currently being done, it's time to do your homework. Human life is being devalued and immigrants are being used as pawns for political and economic gain. Not truly understanding the plight of poor is increasing the problem, not alleviating it.
 
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AcceptedintheBeloved said:
Believe me they are definitely not, for the great majority, sanctified (saved) people, if fact a heck of a lot are criminals.
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Americans were told this seven years ago and they feigned outrage so now they have what they asked for, an open border. Beware what you ask for, you might just get it.
 
AcceptedintheBeloved

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Everyone in the world’s ancestors were immigrants including so-called Native Americans, if you recall we all started in the garden in our first parents 😀
 
ZNP

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Cameron143 said:
Anyone who isn't touched by the plight of those in need probably isn't a Christian. But anyone who believes what is happening at the border is the best way to address those needs has given their brains the day off.

It isn't compassionate to allow cartels to prey on and make slaves of people for their own profit. Neither is is in anyone's interest to allow evil people to prosper at the expense of the weakest amongst us.

If you don't realize the way human suffering is being multiplied the way things are currently being done, it's time to do your homework. Human life is being devalued and immigrants are being used as pawns for political and economic gain. Not truly understanding the plight of poor is increasing the problem, not alleviating it.
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Agreed.

Philippians 1:9 And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment;
 
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tourist said:
It is immoral to create a society that does not address the needs of the poor and the ability to sustain existence and an enviroment that creates opportunities to improve and thrive. It is not immoral to defend borders to prevent undesirables to enter any country that would erode whatever freedom or opportunity was available to the citizens that were already established.
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Homeless vets are being booted from NY hotels to make room for migrants: advocates

https://nypost.com/2023/05/12/homel...y-hotels-to-make-room-for-migrants-advocates/
 
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