Lesbians and Crossdressers want Weddingdresses

[BlackPlatypus]

Problem remains for pastors who cannot by good conscience perform these services. Weddings that are an affront to God. Lord have mercy.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

There's no problem at all. Homosexuals can never force pastors to perform a marriage ceremony for a homosexual couple.

But they don't really need to worry about that, what with a minor number of churches turning apostate so as to voluntarily vacate God's word and assume the position of officiating homosexuals in ceremony.
It isn't a marriage, and those apostates are no longer a church. But they are a real shame.

 

[kennethcadwell]

There's no problem at all. Homosexuals can never force pastors to perform a marriage ceremony for a homosexual couple.

But they don't really need to worry about that, what with a minor number of churches turning apostate so as to voluntarily vacate God's word and assume the position of officiating homosexuals in ceremony.
It isn't a marriage, and those apostates are no longer a church. But they are a real shame.

Exactly, I saw one on the internet the other day offering to even ordain anybody as a pastor.

All you had to do was give them your information, name, address, age, and email and wa-la your a pastor.
They will send the certificate in the mail showing your ordained.

I looked into the site, and they support gay marriage.

 

[BlackPlatypus]

In a way I'm shocked to read that and in a way not so much. Scripture warned us this would happen. The falling away.

What a fascinating lesson is afforded in this though. The sins of Sodom are reborn and now the sinners of Sodom convert certain of those committed to Christ to join them in the village.

Exactly, I saw one on the internet the other day offering to even ordain anybody as a pastor.

All you had to do was give them your information, name, address, age, and email and wa-la your a pastor.
They will send the certificate in the mail showing your ordained.

I looked into the site, and they support gay marriage.

 

[SonInMe]

Gallup doesn't have the best reputation.
Homosexuality in the history of the world's cultures has rarely been deemed OK.
America is falling because radical ultra-leftist bully homosexual activist groups, who rally for tolerance but do not demonstrate it, harassed the American Psychiatric Institute until they removed Homosexuality as a mental illness from any future publications of the DSM. Diagnostic and Statistics Manual.

Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away

Its not radicals anymore. Its the standard every day liberal who believes homosexuality is a right/protected status under the law.

It won't stop there...a lawsuit on polygamy was won based on gay marriage laws.

Pedophiles will be next....or marrying animals.

Started with a woman's right to choose (murder ). When you can excuse abortion as a ''right to choose'' anything is a go.

 

[BlackPlatypus]

Its not radicals anymore. Its the standard every day liberal who believes homosexuality is a right/protected status under the law.

It won't stop there...a lawsuit on polygamy was won based on gay marriage laws.

Pedophiles will be next....or marrying animals.

Started with a woman's right to choose (murder ). When you can excuse abortion as a ''right to choose'' anything is a go.

Yep, all thanks to reality TV, "Sister Wives", making it seem as if polygamy is perfectly OK.
Federal judge rules parts of Utah anti-polygamy law unconstitutional


As for Bestiality aka/Zoophilia, it is interesting that these deviant behaviors are legal now and in the same states that ban homosexual marriage.
LINK


Pedophiles have been fighting for equal rights for awhile. It was wrongly reported about a year or so ago that they'd been identified as a sexual orientation by the American Psychiatric Association. But regardless, the child rapist activists are still hoping to be called equal.
Pedophile support group seeks ‘truth and dignity’ - Want same rights as homosexuals



What promotes this deviant pursuit I believe is when an Ephebophile celebrity, Green Mile star Doug Hutchison 51 at the time, makes news that he gained the written consent of his 16 year old victims parents to marry his child bride, Courtney Stodden. ARTICLE - and yes, he's engaged to her again after she filed for divorce!


The signs of Sodom and Gomorrah being revived in America are everywhere:
California Gov. Brown signs bill deleting ‘husband,’ ‘wife’ from marriage law



I saw a tee shirt someone had on the other day. It featured a display of the US map and highlighted in pink those states that had legalized gay marriage as of January 1st of this year.
Above the map it read, AMERICA - THE NEW SODOM AND GROWING

And below the map it had the scripture that reports on the fate of Sodom along with the statement: IF GOD DOESN'T DO SOMETHING SOON HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO APOLOGIZE FOR SODOM & GOMORRAH.


Thank God there may be a solution that insures other states, not yet corrupt in allowing homosexuals to wed, an out by law with the precedent set in this recent case in Tennessee.

[h=1]Judge Upholds Tennessee's Gay Marriage Ban [/h]
I wonder what chance it would have in being invoked so as to repeal homosexual marriage laws that are already in force in the minor number of states?

 

[Desdichado]

Communists buy wedding dresses and are legally married on a regular basis and in multiple countries. They raise more communists as well.

This is the greater tragedy as homosexuals, by definition, cannot breed.

 

[BlackPlatypus]

Really?

 

[didymos]

Communists buy wedding dresses and are legally married on a regular basis and in multiple countries. They raise more communists as well.

This is the greater tragedy as homosexuals, by definition, cannot breed.

They can and will (they're very creative in finding loopholes),
a travesty of procreation and even a GREATER tragedy.

 

[JoshJoseph2]

'other sinners' usually don't wear their 'sins' as a badge of honour.

In what world do you live in? Go to a bar, hang around some 20 yr olds and you will see that these people don't mind hiding the fact that they do things that most Christians believe to be sin.

 

[didymos]

In what world do you live in? Go to a bar, hang around some 20 yr olds and you will see that these people don't mind hiding the fact that they do things that most Christians believe to be sin.

They don't insist society as a whole (or God for that matter) accepts their lifestyle though, gays do.
'Out, proud etc...'

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Here's how insane it's gotten: https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2014/08/27/sociology-association-picks-gender-categories

The American Sociology Association is calling for at least seven different genders to all be recognized. There will be an added eight option to select 'all of the above.'

Here's what one of them looks like: “Genderqueer” is defined by the Gender Equity Resource Center at the University of California-Berkeley as “A person whose gender identity is neither man nor woman, is between or beyond genders, or is some combination of genders.”

The new gender options will not immediately come into effect, but are expected to be in place by the 2016 ASA membership year.

^ There's a REASON why we call them LEFTARDS.

I wrote them and told them that their should just be three options: male, female, and leftardfreak but I never heard back for some reason.

 

[didymos]

(...)
I wrote them and told them that their should just be three options: male, female, and leftardfreak but I never heard back for some reason.

They're not all 'leftards,' there are (and always have been) plenty of 'interesting' republicans too.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

The vast majority of today's Republicans are not true conservatives, they are neo-conservatives or liberals with a conservative twist. The term "neoconservative" refers to those who made the ideological journey from the anti-Stalinist left to the Republican party after the late 1960s.

True conservatives (e.g. paleoconservatives) believe in, live out, and stress traditional values (e.g. nuclear family headed by one man and one woman who are married to each other preferably for life, orthodox Catholicism or orthodox Protestant Christianity, etc...), limited government, American traditional conservatism (e.g. based in emphasizing the need for the principles of natural law and transcendent moral orderism), civil society (e.g. the family and the private sphere, referred to as the "third sector" of society, are distinct from government and business), anti-colonialism, and anti-federalism all rooted in the identity of Western Civilization.

They're not all 'leftards,' there are (and always have been) plenty of 'interesting' republicans too.

 

[SonInMe]

Reagan was a very popular president....except for the republican party elite. They have been running from conservatism since.

Both Bushes were not true conservatives.

I really pray our country does not go the route Europe has but I think it may be too late.

The late great USA

 

[Esanta]

Reagan was a very popular president....except for the republican party elite. They have been running from conservatism since.

Both Bushes were not true conservatives.

I really pray our country does not go the route Europe has but I think it may be too late.

The late great USA

The route Europe has? lol what? Universal healthcare, better educational standards, better mass transit systems, higher life expectancy, green awareness, high fuel efficiency, lower rates of incarceration, lower obesity rates, lower pollution levels, less violent crime, more comprehensive sexual education programs, real freedom of religion, freedom of sexual orientation, anti-GMO crops, heavy regulation against corporatism and libertarian culture, sane attitudes to contraception that limit unwanted pregnancies and the demand for abortion, governmental systems that, contrary to the US, don't sit in perpetual political deadlock, far more competition in business and a wider availability of high-end products at lower prices, better food standards, better food labelling, better food everything, no internet access favouritism to big-spending corporations, yearly budgeting of taxes, mandatory vacation time by law, and a generally logical, amicable, non-threatening demeanour that's the antithesis of the 'we're-the-best-and-if-anyone-disagrees-with-us-we'll-shout-louder' attitude?

I'd live in Europe rather than the US, any day of the week. Part of the reason is that traditional conservatism is becoming less popular every day here, and now we can move forward in a manner that's more practical and logical, unencumbered with pointless traditions that have outlived their usefulness.

 

[notuptome]

The route Europe has? lol what? Universal healthcare, better educational standards, better mass transit systems, higher life expectancy, green awareness, high fuel efficiency, lower rates of incarceration, lower obesity rates, lower pollution levels, less violent crime, more comprehensive sexual education programs, real freedom of religion, freedom of sexual orientation, anti-GMO crops, heavy regulation against corporatism and libertarian culture, sane attitudes to contraception that limit unwanted pregnancies and the demand for abortion, governmental systems that, contrary to the US, don't sit in perpetual political deadlock, far more competition in business and a wider availability of high-end products at lower prices, better food standards, better food labelling, better food everything, no internet access favouritism to big-spending corporations, yearly budgeting of taxes, mandatory vacation time by law, and a generally logical, amicable, non-threatening demeanour that's the antithesis of the 'we're-the-best-and-if-anyone-disagrees-with-us-we'll-shout-louder' attitude?

I'd live in Europe rather than the US, any day of the week. Part of the reason is that traditional conservatism is becoming less popular every day here, and now we can move forward in a manner that's more practical and logical, unencumbered with pointless traditions that have outlived their usefulness.

Marvelous. Where is the virtue in a Godless society?

The fool has said in his heart no God.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Esanta]

Marvelous. Where is the virtue in a Godless society?

The fool has said in his heart no God.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Conservatism is not synonymous with Godliness, nor with virtue; tradition is not synonymous with them either.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

God, His holiness, and the principles found in His Word never outlive their usefulness to people and their societies.

“That day shall not come, except there come a falling away first.” -2 Thessalonians 2:3

In order to fall away, you must have been somewhere to fall away from. That would be from those "pointless" conservative Christian values and traditions like embracing God's holiness personally and societally, embracing God's Biblical design for marriage and family, respecting the Imago Dei as pro-life, living sober rejecting the worldly dissipation into drugs and alcohol, exercising fiscal and behavioral responsibility both personally and societally, etc...

The progressive liberal wants the cross for its "free" redemption but they never want to live the lifestyle the cross demands or embrace the God of the Bible and His holiness.

When the real storm hits, and it will, they'll be knocked off their ledge.

Will they take the anti-Christ mark when it is slickly marketed to them with it's so-called economic, socio-religious, and liberal progressive "benefits?" It sure looks that way. The Bible says they will. In fact, they'll stand in line for it like it's a new iphone.

“For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things” -Philippians 3:18–19.

The enemies of the cross of Christ who's sin is their shame. They own neither the presence nor the desirable promises of God though ultimately, they do have God's judgment to look forward to.

Both the U.S. and Europe are presently in a state of "falling away" from God and His holiness though Europe is way out in front and that's where the mark will be introduced first.

Those of us who stand with God and against the great "falling away" are few and looked upon as "out of step" with an enlightened society and more relevant apostate spirituality that embraces sinful deviations and immorality.

The lovers of sensuous worldly pleasures will eventually far outnumber the lovers of God and use their political clout to vote for legislation that results in the persecution of God's holy people who themselves will be a thorn in their side stinging and searing the consciences of the lost, the apostate, and the harlot church with their devotion to God and His uncompromising truth.

Eventually, a "superstar Antichrist" will arise in the name of progressive peace, order, and world trade supported by the immoral, the apostate, and the harlot church and change the world's systems of laws, justice, and trade resulting in even more persecution for uncompromising genuine Christians.

But ultimately, he will be exposed as a fraudulent son of Satan. The Bible predicts that his rule of terror will be short lived but totally devastating. This phony dictator who poses as a progressive angel of light will deceive almost the whole world.

Now pay attention Esanta, that's when the seven terrible and final plagues to come on the earth (plagues which are worse than all others combined in the history of humanity) are released on his followers.

"If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.” -Revelation 14:9-11

^ This is the ultimate end of the great falling away from God, His holiness, His Word, and His Gospel that is presently underway led by globalist liberal progressives just like yourself.

I'd live in Europe rather than the US, any day of the week. Part of the reason is that traditional conservatism is becoming less popular every day here, and now we can move forward in a manner that's more practical and logical, unencumbered with pointless traditions that have outlived their usefulness.

 

[Esanta]

God, His holiness, and the principles found in His Word never outlive their usefulness to people and their societies.

“That day shall not come, except there come a falling away first.” -2 Thessalonians 2:3

In order to fall away, you must have been somewhere to fall away from. That would be from those "pointless" conservative Christian values and traditions like embracing God's holiness personally and societally, embracing God's Biblical design for marriage and family, respecting the Imago Dei as pro-life, living sober rejecting the worldly dissipation into drugs and alcohol, exercising fiscal and behavioral responsibility both personally and societally, etc...

The progressive liberal wants the cross for its "free" redemption but they never want to live the lifestyle the cross demands or embrace the God of the Bible and His holiness.

When the real storm hits, and it will, they'll be knocked off their ledge.

Will they take the anti-Christ mark when it is slickly marketed to them with it's so-called economic, socio-religious, and liberal progressive "benefits?" It sure looks that way. The Bible says they will. In fact, they'll stand in line for it like it's a new iphone.

“For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things” -Philippians 3:18–19.

The enemies of the cross of Christ who's sin is their shame. They own neither the presence nor the desirable promises of God though ultimately, they do have God's judgment to look forward to.

Both the U.S. and Europe are presently in a state of "falling away" from God and His holiness though Europe is way out in front and that's where the mark will be introduced first.

Those of us who stand with God and against the great "falling away" are few and looked upon as "out of step" with an enlightened society and more relevant apostate spirituality that embraces sinful deviations and immorality.

The lovers of sensuous worldly pleasures will eventually far outnumber the lovers of God and use their political clout to vote for legislation that results in the persecution of God's holy people who themselves will be a thorn in their side stinging and searing the consciences of the lost, the apostate, and the harlot church with their devotion to God and His uncompromising truth.

Eventually, a "superstar Antichrist" will arise in the name of progressive peace, order, and world trade supported by the immoral, the apostate, and the harlot church and change the world's systems of laws, justice, and trade resulting in even more persecution for uncompromising genuine Christians.

But ultimately, he will be exposed as a fraudulent son of Satan. The Bible predicts that his rule of terror will be short lived but totally devastating. This phony dictator who poses as a progressive angel of light will deceive almost the whole world.

Now pay attention Esanta, that's when the seven terrible and final plagues to come on the earth (plagues which are worse than all others combined in the history of humanity) are released on his followers.

"If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.” -Revelation 14:9-11

^ This is the ultimate end of the great falling away from God, His holiness, His Word, and His Gospel that is presently underway led by globalist liberal progressives just like yourself.

You're a pretty all or nothing guy, aren't you? Every liberal is a heathen. Every tradition holds 'Godly' virtue. Every deviation from tradition is against God's word. Every person who doesn't agree with you is a lover of sensuous worldly pleasures. You can't honestly believe that every liberal approaches these issues with exactly the same evidential set or plausibility structure nor that they come to exactly the same conclusions. People, even among liberals, have a great variance in approach, belief and perspective.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

I see you've baked another no nothing cake with an ad hominem cherry on top Esanta... lol.

There is NO getting around what I posted. You will either choose to adjust to it and reap the eternal spiritual benefit or you will continue NOT to choose to adjust to it and reap eternal judgment.

^ Now that's a traditional conservative Biblical teaching that is "becoming less popular every day" and exactly what you are falling away from so that you "can move forward in a manner that's more practical and logical, unencumbered with pointless traditions that have outlived their usefulness" <--sarcasm intended with respect to your quote.

You're a pretty all or nothing guy, aren't you? Every liberal is a heathen. Every tradition holds 'Godly' virtue. Every deviation from tradition is against God's word. Every person who doesn't agree with you is a lover of sensuous worldly pleasures. You can't honestly believe that every liberal approaches these issues with exactly the same evidential set or plausibility structure nor that they come to exactly the same conclusions. People, even among liberals, have a great variance in approach, belief and perspective.