Let's Discuss Black Lives Matter...The Movement

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rastai

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There was no peaceful protesting there were those who violated the rules set by democrat leaders that gave special treatment to protestors when the rest of us were not. we had to close our business. it was BLM who were shouting "NO Justice no peace". were all Black people doing that? NO. BUT ALL BLM was Just because people were not looting does that mean the KKK who did not bomb churches were peaceful? NO!. IF you support BLM you supported their action by default. As I said BLM is not about black people it's about chaos and anarchy. Black people were manipulated by Marxist communist groups hiding as a civil rights activist.
Seems like a big stretch but ok.
 

CS1

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Seems like a big stretch but ok.
it's not a stretch it is history because the group ACORN re-defined itself into BLM because the Founders of BLM many were from ACORN just a fact supported by G. Soros. ANTIFA was a group of anarchists who too is funded by Soros and other groups. This is the same thing the KKK did when they pulled off the hood and became what is known as Dixiecrats which they have very well removed that history in the Black Communities. The GOP of the '80s were and are today wimps. They allowed the Democrats to call them racist and rich when the DNC was founded on racism and the rich. The spirit of deception has ran deep-held up in the public schools and colleges and they attack anyone who will not agree with them.

There are such a small group of about 25% but this is how it starts the Marxist way In Russia 25 % killed 70 million of their own people Joesph Stalin, 25 % of Germany killed 6 .1 million jews Communist imperial Japan 25% killed 22 million

They are started out just like what we see. It is a historical fact. El Salvador, Cuba, Venezuela, and many other places. Hong Kong just falls off the map nothing about them. WE are about to be overtaken by deceit using a lie and false narrative that has been used to control people many times before the demonic government system of marxism, communism. and atheism. the unholy trinity of the anti-christ that many weak ill-informed Christians will suffer under
 

rastai

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it's not a stretch it is history because the group ACORN re-defined itself into BLM because the Founders of BLM many were from ACORN just a fact supported by G. Soros. ANTIFA was a group of anarchists who too is funded by Soros and other groups. This is the same thing the KKK did when they pulled off the hood and became what is known as Dixiecrats which they have very well removed that history in the Black Communities. The GOP of the '80s were and are today wimps. They allowed the Democrats to call them racist and rich when the DNC was founded on racism and the rich. The spirit of deception has ran deep-held up in the public schools and colleges and they attack anyone who will not agree with them.

There are such a small group of about 25% but this is how it starts the Marxist way In Russia 25 % killed 70 million of their own people Joesph Stalin, 25 % of Germany killed 6 .1 million jews Communist imperial Japan 25% killed 22 million

They are started out just like what we see. It is a historical fact. El Salvador, Cuba, Venezuela, and many other places. Hong Kong just falls off the map nothing about them. WE are about to be overtaken by deceit using a lie and false narrative that has been used to control people many times before the demonic government system of marxism, communism. and atheism. the unholy trinity of the anti-christ that many weak ill-informed Christians will suffer under
Yeah that is a huge stretch. There is nothing resembling communism taking a foothold here in the US. The change the left is seeking is more akin to Canada or Denmark. As for Dixiecrats we are well aware of them. Today they are called republicans.
 

CS1

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Yeah that is a huge stretch. There is nothing resembling communism taking a foothold here in the US. The change the left is seeking is more akin to Canada or Denmark. As for Dixiecrats we are well aware of them. Today they are called republicans.
LOL really? I guess you don't know what socialism is then do you? No they are known as the democratic party race-baiting rich who have destroyed ever city the run then place the blame of republicans who fought for Civil rights.

Ever wonder why LBJ did not look for election as POTUS? Because he signed the Civil into law. You know who made welfare for women as long as the father is out of the house? Democrats. You know who passed the crime bill of 1994 that placed more people of color in prison the one who wrote it Joe Biden and the Democratic Party. You know who got more votes for POTUS than Obama? Joe Biden LOl he's more popular than Obama. The only thing Republicans are wrong for is being wimps and inept. But a racist is the DNC founded on it and is today.
 

Absolutely

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I am not a supporter of the BLM charter. But the fact is that blackpeople continue to be marginalized in this society. The justice system discriminates with higher rates of brutality and incarceration. Most of the protestors believe this but you guys dig up the BLM charter and say it's a front. Well maybe but if that is the case why not at the same time call out the injustice. Instead you say BLM is bad because this and that and if anything you deny that there is discrimination. It has been going on for 400 years to one degree or another and it needs to stop. BLM is not my first choice to lead that cause but it is to big of a problem to ignore and they are bringing attention to it. So what is your alternative? do nothing. Or do you just believe the completely out of touch notion that racism and racial discrimination no longer exist?
""I am not a supporter of the BLM charter. But the fact is that blackpeople continue to be marginalized in this society. The justice system discriminates with higher rates of brutality and incarceration""

You are in deception.

Black population needs lesdership.
Your remedy has no such dynamic.
Your remedy is for the blacks who have lost leadership to rise up and rule and steal what they did not earn.
Anarchy is your cure.

The black community needs leadership...period.

Blacks need a revival....period.

Leadership and God....no more problem.

You need a personal re invention. A "Cadice Owens" reset in your mind

She ,and Ben Shapiro can cure you.

(Free you)
 

Absolutely

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Yeah that is a huge stretch. There is nothing resembling communism taking a foothold here in the US. The change the left is seeking is more akin to Canada or Denmark. As for Dixiecrats we are well aware of them. Today they are called republicans.
Yeah, let America become canada and mexico.

Then for a state socialist car cross a fiat with a Hyundai.
Just some trashy boxy,tiny sedan that breaks down every day.

Then let the healthcare decline with all competition removed.
For housing,highrise slums.

Make everybody equal and broke with no constitution.

A liberal Bernie wonderland.

Sick
 

rastai

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LOL really? I guess you don't know what socialism is then do you? No they are known as the democratic party race-baiting rich who have destroyed ever city the run then place the blame of republicans who fought for Civil rights.

Ever wonder why LBJ did not look for election as POTUS? Because he signed the Civil into law. You know who made welfare for women as long as the father is out of the house? Democrats. You know who passed the crime bill of 1994 that placed more people of color in prison the one who wrote it Joe Biden and the Democratic Party. You know who got more votes for POTUS than Obama? Joe Biden LOl he's more popular than Obama. The only thing Republicans are wrong for is being wimps and inept. But a racist is the DNC founded on it and is today.
Ok so the 90% of black people who vote for democrats are all so foolish and do not know their own best interest? please. As for the crime bill, it was supported by the black community along with the republicans. The most opposition came from democrats. Yes it was bad and did not do what it claimed it would. The republicans that were against it did not think it went far enough. So why do you think black people overwhelmingly vote Democrat. They are there in the cities seeing first hand what is going on and yet they still vote democrat. Maybe the reason is that they know what is in their interest and a republican vote is most definitely not. Or maybe you just think they have inferior minds? If only they were not allowed to vote then republicans could win every election.
 

rastai

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""I am not a supporter of the BLM charter. But the fact is that blackpeople continue to be marginalized in this society. The justice system discriminates with higher rates of brutality and incarceration""

You are in deception.

Black population needs lesdership.
Your remedy has no such dynamic.
Your remedy is for the blacks who have lost leadership to rise up and rule and steal what they did not earn.
Anarchy is your cure.

The black community needs leadership...period.

Blacks need a revival....period.

Leadership and God....no more problem.

You need a personal re invention. A "Cadice Owens" reset in your mind

She ,and Ben Shapiro can cure you.

(Free you)
Well aware of the Candace deception. I see racism in this problem as more of white problem then a black one. The white community is who needs leadership and morals and should be righting the wrongs of the past that persist to the present. God is not the problem in the black community. Over 80% of black people surveyed have absolute belief in god. For whites and latinos it is around 60%. So no that is not correct. Black people need a fair justice system and poor people, of which black people comprise a disproportionate njumber, need a fairer tax code.
 

SophieT

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Well aware of the Candace deception. I see racism in this problem as more of white problem then a black one. The white community is who needs leadership and morals and should be righting the wrongs of the past that persist to the present. God is not the problem in the black community. Over 80% of black people surveyed have absolute belief in god. For whites and latinos it is around 60%. So no that is not correct. Black people need a fair justice system and poor people, of which black people comprise a disproportionate njumber, need a fairer tax code.
As long as people with historical baggage continue to reference that sad history as their identity, they will never ever climb out of the mess of racism, which, by the way, I would sadly state is far greater with black people against white.

As for the rest of your post, you are just mouthing words with no basis for truth. It is one thing to believe in God and another thing to accept Christ as God's solution to the sin problem of mankind and begin to realize that the devil is the one that creates this division and lies and uses people for those purposes. It is one thing to believe in God and another to actually live in a way that makes that statement true.

Black people are their own worst enemy in far too many cases. You can thank Obama for stirring up the race card issues again. Never address the actual black problems in inner cities, which is black on black violence, but instead point to white people who have never hurt a black person in their lives and say they are all against black people. If you have to have someone else to blame for your problems and think white people who never owned a slave should make some kind of restitution, then ask Obama why he is now behaving exactly like one of those privileged white people he told black people were their problem,

Facing the truth and growing up and making educated decisions and not just acting on the word of someone who desires to manipulate you for their own reasons, is difficult, but in the end you are free.
 

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BLM and all other identity movements are man's attempts at solving man's problems with man's solutions. BLM although pointing out real and serious systemic problems makes the mistake of those they cry out against, in that their racial identity all too often takes precedence over their identity in Christ. I see the same trend in this thread. Our identity isn't first our name, or our race, or our biology... it is first our redemption in Christ. If we are Christian, then there is no other identity that matters.

Colossians 3 said:
Put to death therefore what is earthly in you:[b] sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. 6 On account of these the wrath of God is coming.[c] 7 In these you too once walked, when you were living in them. 8 But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth. 9 Do not lie to one another, seeing that you have put off the old self[d] with its practices 10 and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge after the image of its creator. 11 Here there is not Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave,[e] free; but Christ is all, and in all.
I find it interesting that Colossians 3 makes reference to identity politics as a sin akin to sexual immorality and idolatry. Note specifically the terms barbarian and Scythian which had different meanings to the audience than to us today. The barbarians were people outside of the Roman world (remember, people at Colossae were Romans) who were looked down upon. The Scythians though were a district group from the steppes and Caucasus that had warred and raided the Romans. There is a real possibility people in the congregation receiving this letter had some group of Scythian Christians among them. It would have been wrong to hold a grudge against the Scythians who had no responsibility for sins committed by forefathers. It would be double wrongly to refuse them the fellowship of identifying and interacting with them on the only identity that matters, Christ and his redemption of them.
 

CS1

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Well aware of the Candace deception. I see racism in this problem as more of white problem then a black one. The white community is who needs leadership and morals and should be righting the wrongs of the past that persist to the present. God is not the problem in the black community. Over 80% of black people surveyed have absolute belief in god. For whites and latinos it is around 60%. So no that is not correct. Black people need a fair justice system and poor people, of which black people comprise a disproportionate njumber, need a fairer tax code.
the issue with all is the family unit.

All communities have poor. It is the blind trust we have placed in men & women leaders who have ruined communities while filling their pockets with money and when things go wrong blame " whitey" or illegal aliens.

The problem is YOU and ME the person in the mirror. We have reelected the same dishonest lying no good leaders over and over again why? because they are the same skin color as us. That is racist. The truth is the family has been destroyed by the Government and it was started in the black communities FIRST! No one did anything to stop including black leaders.

You want governmental racism in a nutshell here you go.

Welfare is the most racist destructive program headed by the Government.

A woman can get on it to receive help BUT you can't have the father of the child living with you, so you have to hide him or he just a friend.

Can't get married and get help when you needed it if you get married? WHY? Because the program is not supportive of families becoming independent of the Government no no, they need to be completely Dependant on them for life.

The destruction of the family, reeducation of children where single mothers can't by themselves defend foolish laws but are program to embrace them, become enslaved to the government.

Everyone is talking about the Mark of the beast guess what, Welfare is a great example of that very thing.

Sold out your soul, children, and family to the false god of the government, many are receiving a check based on false disability because they can't make it without the help of the god of government.

Might as well go get 666 on your forehead as many have faked cognitive issues to get a check and the medical reps were all too happy to help you get it.

Sold your soul to the devil and did not even know it. When the mark comes it will be easier than taking candy because so many are currently deceived and sold out. Messing around on the outside of Sodom got you sucked into the living with them.
blinded and fools many have become allowed a sexual perversion to overtake the real issues of real people and many in the Black community ( leadership) went right along with it knowing it was terrible. NOW a sexual preference has more laws supporting them than a traditional family and many so-called Christians fell right in line to do so because of the families they had who were perverted. We now all reap what we sowed. To make the issue worst those leading must now find an old monster to blame the current issues on. Instead of laying it at the feet of the individual person and sin.

Not homosexuality, divorce, perversion, lawlessness, fornication You very own actions, no got to be something else. The sad thing Sin will take us all down and is more of an "Equal opportunity" than any Governmental program could ever be.; and it brings the same thing to all... death.
 

Magenta

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Yeah, let America become canada and mexico.

Then for a state socialist car cross a fiat with a Hyundai.
Just some trashy boxy,tiny sedan that breaks down every day.

Then let the healthcare decline with all competition removed.
For housing,highrise slums.

Make everybody equal and broke with no constitution.

A liberal Bernie wonderland.

Sick
Are you really equating Canada and Mexico? :oops: The other said Canada and Denmark :unsure::geek:

Do you see Denmark as being the same as Mexico also?

Canada has a constitution ;)

As for high rise slums? Isn't that what the US has? Projects, they call them. Enclaves for criminals.
 

SophieT

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As for high rise slums? Isn't that what the US has? Projects, they call them. Enclaves for criminals.
I could hardly believe my eyes the first time we drove through some of those places on our way out west to attend a wedding. You think you are in another world. Actually you are in another world. I would agree that while Canada is not the US, it certainly is not comparable to Mexico. That is laughable.
 

CS1

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Ok so the 90% of black people who vote for democrats are all so foolish and do not know their own best interest? please. As for the crime bill, it was supported by the black community along with the republicans. The most opposition came from democrats. Yes it was bad and did not do what it claimed it would. The republicans that were against it did not think it went far enough. So why do you think black people overwhelmingly vote Democrat. They are there in the cities seeing first hand what is going on and yet they still vote democrat. Maybe the reason is that they know what is in their interest and a republican vote is most definitely not. Or maybe you just think they have inferior minds? If only they were not allowed to vote then republicans could win every election.
No I did not say 90% of blacks are foolish, you did. I will say , It hard to admit you are wrong and there is difference from the Blue collar Democrats of the 60's and 70's from the radical PC perverted left marxist democrats that have taken over the DNC. Starting in the 1980's . Listen, both DNC and GOP are not even the same as they were 20 years ago. In 1994 the crime bill was not supported by Black's it ws supported by the black leaders. Who the people backed because they were their elected representatives and trusted them. Yes it is true the GOP did nothing they are wimp I said that. But the Democrats have called the GOP racist for so long they (GOP) to their discredit did not even try why to change it? Because they allowed the racist rich narrative to stick and believed the black vote was a waste of time and money Because Black Voted Democrat 100% then.

Black people did not overwhelmingly voted this time for Democrats. We know for a fact Trump got at least 17 to 20 % of the Black vote and even higher percentage in Latino Hispanic population. Biden out performed Obama and Hillary? AND Trumps increase of votes by 10 million from the 2016 election? I'm sure you can do math, it doesn't add up. This COVID-19 election was not a normal election .

I will tell you this the GOP are no better, they are wimps and they will not win GA run off because they do not know how to fight. Trump does. The racist narrative has been ran in the ground and failed the democrats. Trump did more for black colleges than even Obama, and more for prison reform . Trump increased blacks into the GOP not decreased after the media tried to make the racist narrative stick BUT Joe Biden said you even black if you don't vote for him.

The issue now is the two party system is a failure. And the SCOTUS has no courage. Biden did not win. I voted for Obama in 2008 I did not vote for him in 2012. Nor did I vote for Mitt Romney. In 2008 McCain was not going to beat Obama I knew that after he beat the Hillary machine. IF you look at the past you can see clearly the cheating by using simple math and truth.

Now the media is coming out and saying there is merit to the China Russia money issue of Hunter Biden but before the election it was misinformation? The spirit of deception is well alive in both DNC and GOP. Trump was not my vote in 2016 I had supported a different person but President Trump has been right on all he has said than not.

Vaccine before the end of the year. The POTUS was mocked and scoffed and attacked by media and democrats. Kamala Harris said she would not even take the vaccine because Trump was President but now they are trying to take credit for it.

I'm from CA , Harris's District. She has failed us here. And place many people of color in prison for crimes she jokes about doing. CA is ran into the ground the third Largest economy in the world. Think about that. Don't forget she called Biden a racist on the debate stage but jumped in bed with him to be VP.
 

CS1

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Yeah that is a huge stretch. There is nothing resembling communism taking a foothold here in the US. The change the left is seeking is more akin to Canada or Denmark. As for Dixiecrats we are well aware of them. Today they are called republicans.
you are just wrong, IF you know anything about the DNC Platform you would not be saying that.
PPA created by Margret Sanger a racist women who founded plan parent hood to reduce the population of Blacks in 1920's why? Because the Black communities were thriving and increasing in the population. This women was key note speaker for the KKK. This is all well documented. The Democratic party hs made this women a saint in the DNC a racist. 61 million babies murdered 30 % made up of blacks who only make up 17 % of the population. There is only one party today who has voted against this and it is not the DNC. There is only ONE President who has spoken at the "Right to Life " conference and it was not Obama or Biden.

in the 1916 there was a boom of American Americans who were building cites and black communities that were destroyed by social issues. it was an attack on the family. During the " Great Migration". African American were projected to be a majority in America but they have seen a decline in their population which is very telling. They were booming then something happen population stated to drop not maintain a normal growth. Where did the the wealth of these people go? How did those who even in the racist south were able to make money in the 1920's disappear. it is not hard to see if we are honest. It was the socialist progressive policies of President Woodrow Wilson and the democrat who ran the Government at that time. he led us into the great depression which FDR who too used war to get us out of it. The Black Wealth disappeared. And with it came "projects and getthos" just before the war in 1937. Population co troll was nothing new the the nationalist socialist worker Party also called NAZI's in Germany used the " Getthos " to house jews. same program used here during the Depression to controls group of people and created by Democrats.
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rastai

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the issue with all is the family unit.

All communities have poor. It is the blind trust we have placed in men & women leaders who have ruined communities while filling their pockets with money and when things go wrong blame " whitey" or illegal aliens.

The problem is YOU and ME the person in the mirror. We have reelected the same dishonest lying no good leaders over and over again why? because they are the same skin color as us. That is racist. The truth is the family has been destroyed by the Government and it was started in the black communities FIRST! No one did anything to stop including black leaders.

You want governmental racism in a nutshell here you go.

Welfare is the most racist destructive program headed by the Government.

A woman can get on it to receive help BUT you can't have the father of the child living with you, so you have to hide him or he just a friend.

Can't get married and get help when you needed it if you get married? WHY? Because the program is not supportive of families becoming independent of the Government no no, they need to be completely Dependant on them for life.

The destruction of the family, reeducation of children where single mothers can't by themselves defend foolish laws but are program to embrace them, become enslaved to the government.

Everyone is talking about the Mark of the beast guess what, Welfare is a great example of that very thing.

Sold out your soul, children, and family to the false god of the government, many are receiving a check based on false disability because they can't make it without the help of the god of government.

Might as well go get 666 on your forehead as many have faked cognitive issues to get a check and the medical reps were all too happy to help you get it.

Sold your soul to the devil and did not even know it. When the mark comes it will be easier than taking candy because so many are currently deceived and sold out. Messing around on the outside of Sodom got you sucked into the living with them.
blinded and fools many have become allowed a sexual perversion to overtake the real issues of real people and many in the Black community ( leadership) went right along with it knowing it was terrible. NOW a sexual preference has more laws supporting them than a traditional family and many so-called Christians fell right in line to do so because of the families they had who were perverted. We now all reap what we sowed. To make the issue worst those leading must now find an old monster to blame the current issues on. Instead of laying it at the feet of the individual person and sin.

Not homosexuality, divorce, perversion, lawlessness, fornication You very own actions, no got to be something else. The sad thing Sin will take us all down and is more of an "Equal opportunity" than any Governmental program could ever be.; and it brings the same thing to all... death.
So the solution should be to fix welfare not eliminate help. People still need help shed for every one that takes advantage the are several who use welfare to help them through some hard times. So it does not cut one way.
 

Nehemiah6

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But the fact is that blackpeople continue to be marginalized in this society.
And do you realize that Black president Obama was the worst offender in marginalizing blacks? He promoted an open border policy which would rob blacks and Hispanics who were legal citizens of jobs, which would be stolen by illegals, and fraudulent votes by illegals would also marginalize black votes.
The justice system discriminates with higher rates of brutality and incarceration.
Without trying to defend the justice system, why don't you carefully look at the crime statistics for blacks or a long period of time? Choosing to commit crimes has consequences.

Getting back to BLM, let the record show that (1) they do not give a hoot about black lives, (2) they are a domestic terrorist and anarchist movement funded by the likes of George Soros, and (3) their only goal is the total destruction of America, and the establishment of a Marxist/Communist regime, which would trample on blacks and everyone else.
 

CS1

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So the solution should be to fix welfare not eliminate help. People still need help shed for every one that takes advantage the are several who use welfare to help them through some hard times. So it does not cut one way.
the solution is to be honest as what the real cause of the communities that have not been able to turn it around. After my mother and father divorced in 1979 they started the process in 1972. Back then it was not so easy to do. then the church found out they came and spoke to you RCC and Protestant not many do that today Divorce can happen in almost a week some places one day. The attack the family came out of the Baby Boomers who started the rebellion "the sexual revolution of the 1960's . IT was not a revolution it was a demonic rebellion that ushered in homosexuality, fornication, adultery, mid control drugs, and hate for country . These spoiled brats "Baby boomers" who were the offspring of the " Greatest Generation" left God. once the Generation X cameo be where most of them grew up without two parents in the home and divorce was the norm the Government was all to happy to come in and take control.
The greatest offensive sin to God is Idolatry. Out of this comes many other issues :

  1. God will not hear a people who worship other gods
  2. self-pleasing hedonism = disobeying the word of God
  3. No fear of the living God by the people produces leaders who have no accountability therefore they abuse position.
  4. sin will not stop it will pull all down until it kills you
  5. Atheism which came out of Marxism and gave birth to communism.

WE are about to be attacked in away that will make 911 look like a picnic. the fault will lie at the feet of two groups
the family and the church.