Man killed in Utah FBI raid allegedly posted death threats against Biden

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iamsoandso

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The E.U. can also be interpreted as "The Beast" but i don't put a lot of trust into these links because this is how the world was headed right after WW2.
A new order was needed one ruled by money and the other (at the time) by communism which was a nice idea on paper. Communism and USSR failed so now we're left with a money-based world order. China put this on steroids and are beating the western world at their game because they are a One Party Communist System which eliminates a lot of bureaucracy which exists in the West at the cost of human lives.
So, i don't know where this is heading but i just don't think it's very sustainable for many centuries and something will change.

Your pitting the USSR,China and the US one against the other as if they are competing for the pennant in the world series. The super PACS installed all of their leaders in all three ...
 

Eli1

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Chinese economy is like a Hollywood set, looks great, but completely phony.
Yes, because they’re new at it. Kinda like how the west was at it during the industrial revolution when we were polluting the world and exploiting 13 year olds.

But, they’re buying Africa, Europe and South America while in the U.S. We play team sports.
 

Eli1

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Your pitting the USSR,China and the US one against the other as if they are competing for the pennant in the world series. The super PACS installed all of their leaders in all three ...
Yes, I agree with this.
In a money based world order a select few have major influence how countries should be run.
This is why they killed Ghadafi and threatened the female president of Argentina at the time when they challanged the world banks with different ideas.
 

iamsoandso

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Yes, I agree with this.
In a money based world order a select few have major influence how countries should be run.
This is why they killed Ghadafi and threatened the female president of Argentina at the time when they challanged the world banks with different ideas.

Yep strange fact but in the mind of those merchants they can even arrange for the US to buy the uranium they need to build the warheads to defend themselves from the former USSR and now Russia from the former USSR and Russia,go figure right? https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/nuclear/where-our-uranium-comes-from.php
 

posthuman

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Queen Esther, Nehemiah, Daniel and Joseph come to mind.
Not one of them tried to overthrow their governments but each humbly served them.
 

posthuman

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So then, John the Baptist, the Apostle John referred to Caesar Nero as a type of the Antichrist
Romans 13 was written while Nero was Caeser:

Romans 13:2
Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves.
 

posthuman

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Jesus did tell the church He was not happy that they tolerated Jezebel or that they allowed Balaam's teaching to be taught among them.
He was speaking of the church not the secular government.
 

posthuman

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Sounds like the thief on the cross that was crucified with Jesus.
And what did he say about himself and his death penalty?

Luke 23:40-41
"Do you not even fear God, seeing you are under the same condemnation? And we indeed justly, for we receive the due reward of our deeds; but this Man has done nothing wrong."
 

ZNP

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Not one of them tried to overthrow their governments but each humbly served them.
You might want to read Esther again. Haman was clearly the deep state and the Jews were violating the law which could not be repealed, hence they had to fight for their lives.
 

ZNP

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Romans 13 was written while Nero was Caeser:

Romans 13:2
Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves.
Joe Biden is not the authority, the US constitution is the authority. If Joe Biden or the FBI or anyone else violates the constitution they are the ones resisting the authority.
 

ZNP

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He was speaking of the church not the secular government.
Which had infiltrated the church with their pagan beliefs. Look at the typology, Balaam was working for Balak and Jezebel had become queen.
 

posthuman

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You might want to read Esther again. Haman was clearly the deep state and the Jews were violating the law which could not be repealed, hence they had to fight for their lives.
That's ridiculous.

show me where Esther threatened to kill the king
 

posthuman

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Which had infiltrated the church with their pagan beliefs. Look at the typology, Balaam was working for Balak and Jezebel had become queen.
this is ridiculous overreach on your part to try to twist scripture into justifying illegal, wicked speech and seditious behavior.
 

posthuman

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Joe Biden is not the authority, the US constitution is the authority. If Joe Biden or the FBI or anyone else violates the constitution they are the ones resisting the authority.
you are not speaking as a Christian.
you are speaking as a brainwashed far-right extremist conspiring to overthrow the government.
 

posthuman

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The story of Hannukah is in the NT, it is called the Feast of Dedication
immaterial. the Maccabean revolt is not scripture and scripture absolutely does NOT encourage Christians to seek to overthrow their governments. we are very clearly instructed in scripture to. do. exactly the opposite, even if and when that government is unjust.

That celebration was commemorating ridding the temple of idolatry, not commemorating treasonous inciting of violence against duly appointed secular authorities.

are you even hearing yourself dude?
you are WAY off base.

even if you yourself want to be a wicked seditious criminal and encourage others to join you in violence, you are completely unjustified in trying to use the Bible to excuse it. you are ABSOLUTELY NOT representing Christian values with such positions. you are 100% representing far-right fascist extremism.
 

posthuman

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the US constitution is the authority
GOD is the Authority.

The constitution does not provide for you to use violent mobs or threats of assassination to enforce your will on the half of the polity you disagree with.