Obama emailed me about gay marriage
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Whether it came directly from his office, his campaign office, or wherever it is Obama's official stance. I don't know if it's been in the news in Scotland, but he has made official statements that he now is supporting gay marriage which does not surprise me at all. For years he has instructed the Justice Department to NOT enforce the Defense of Marriage Act which was passed by congress years ago.
I was once walking in the darkness called homosexuality....and it.....compared to the glorious salvation that ONLY comes through belief in Jesus Christ is definitely worthy to be called YUCK! Sin is sin is sin....and it's all YUCK. Even those who try to find "many" ways to God and depend on the great, moral things they do in life to make people feel good....that's also YUCK....in fact god says....our righteousness is as filthy rags.....literally meaning, used up, dirty menstrual cloths....that's VERY YUCK. Sin in general is YUCK, makes you feel like YUCK and there's only ONE way to get UN=YUCKED. Thanks to be God for our Lord Jesus Christ.
Honestly people,
You follow the word of God or you don't follow it at all.
The truth has always been a stumbling stone and a rock of offense to those in the world including Christians with worldly minds. Here's the point as many people have stated here before. God says homosexuality is an abomination, thus it is. It goes against God's order and thus we must be vigilant to stand for the truth. And as Iraasuup has stated, "If you don't like it, take it up with God."
It's not up to us to change the word of God to suit what we like because it's not comfortable. We change for God, not the other way around.
We need to show homosexuals love yes. However we cannot condone their actions or lifestyle. Jesus never said that following Him would be easy. If we get flak from the world for standing for the truth.... Good
You follow the word of God or you don't follow it at all.
The truth has always been a stumbling stone and a rock of offense to those in the world including Christians with worldly minds. Here's the point as many people have stated here before. God says homosexuality is an abomination, thus it is. It goes against God's order and thus we must be vigilant to stand for the truth. And as Iraasuup has stated, "If you don't like it, take it up with God."
It's not up to us to change the word of God to suit what we like because it's not comfortable. We change for God, not the other way around.
We need to show homosexuals love yes. However we cannot condone their actions or lifestyle. Jesus never said that following Him would be easy. If we get flak from the world for standing for the truth.... Good
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Going back to showing people love.
As we study in the bible, love isn't making people feel good. Specifically with agape love, it's providing them with what they need spiritually. Standing for the truth and giving someone truth IS love
Seek what is pleasing to God and cast away that which is not pleasing to Him. Not something people have been comfortable with in the past or even today. The truth is hard and difficult sometimes, yet giving truth is what we have to do. Refusing to stand for truth and compromising with the world to make someone feel good is not love at all. In fact, condoning sin IS sin. It benefits neither party.
As we study in the bible, love isn't making people feel good. Specifically with agape love, it's providing them with what they need spiritually. Standing for the truth and giving someone truth IS love
Seek what is pleasing to God and cast away that which is not pleasing to Him. Not something people have been comfortable with in the past or even today. The truth is hard and difficult sometimes, yet giving truth is what we have to do. Refusing to stand for truth and compromising with the world to make someone feel good is not love at all. In fact, condoning sin IS sin. It benefits neither party.
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Going back to showing people love.
As we study in the bible, love isn't making people feel good. Specifically with agape love, it's providing them with what they need spiritually. Standing for the truth and giving someone truth IS love
Seek what is pleasing to God and cast away that which is not pleasing to Him. Not something people have been comfortable with in the past or even today. The truth is hard and difficult sometimes, yet giving truth is what we have to do. Refusing to stand for truth and compromising with the world to make someone feel good is not love at all. In fact, condoning sin IS sin. It benefits neither party.
As we study in the bible, love isn't making people feel good. Specifically with agape love, it's providing them with what they need spiritually. Standing for the truth and giving someone truth IS love
Seek what is pleasing to God and cast away that which is not pleasing to Him. Not something people have been comfortable with in the past or even today. The truth is hard and difficult sometimes, yet giving truth is what we have to do. Refusing to stand for truth and compromising with the world to make someone feel good is not love at all. In fact, condoning sin IS sin. It benefits neither party.
V
For those who seem to believe that the Bible has no problem with homosexuality: "13 If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them." Leviticus 20:13
I think the Word of God is very clear on this issue. However, does that mean God will not save you. No. You have to chose to repent of your sins and give your life to God. Ask Him to become your Savior. We don't make the rules up, God does. If you disagree with God, talk with Him. Ask Him why. He loves to answer questions like these, especially for those who are seeking answers to things they don't understand.
I think the Word of God is very clear on this issue. However, does that mean God will not save you. No. You have to chose to repent of your sins and give your life to God. Ask Him to become your Savior. We don't make the rules up, God does. If you disagree with God, talk with Him. Ask Him why. He loves to answer questions like these, especially for those who are seeking answers to things they don't understand.
I know I'm late in posting this but I just want to leave this link here and who know's maybe it will help you understand some things:
Zach Wahls Speaks About Family - YouTube
Zach Wahls Speaks About Family - YouTube
I would have been very defensive brother, in fact I hated Christians and God to the point where I wanted to see every believer on a cross, dying in agony...sadly...it was because of the intensity of the pain I had inside my soul...the emptiness that was consuming my life day by day, and in Romans it tells you why:
ROmans 6:
20. For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. (A freedom I was fighting for day in and day out, to the peril of my soul)
Romans 8:
5. For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6. For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, 7. because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, 8. and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
Romans 1:
21.For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
28And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, 29being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, 30slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful;
And so I began to hate those who had Christ in them...God's Spirit dwelling in them...and anything they had to say about my lifestyle, was only more reason to hate. My entire being had been swollen with bitterness and anger. I was completely godless. And like Robo says....who would want a child in THAT kind of atmosphere? It's not about two people not being able to provide for a child....lots of moral people can do that.....but it is IMPOSSIBLE for them to raise that child in a Godly manner..when by their very nature, they are haters of the ONE TRUE GOD, and His Son...my Lord, Christ Jesus.
Sry for the lengthy answer bro...lol....but I'm very certain God did not rescue me from this hell for nothing...and I get kinda passionate about truth when it comes to people being lead astray on the topic.
ROmans 6:
20. For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. (A freedom I was fighting for day in and day out, to the peril of my soul)
Romans 8:
5. For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6. For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, 7. because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, 8. and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
Romans 1:
21.For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
28And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, 29being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, 30slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful;
And so I began to hate those who had Christ in them...God's Spirit dwelling in them...and anything they had to say about my lifestyle, was only more reason to hate. My entire being had been swollen with bitterness and anger. I was completely godless. And like Robo says....who would want a child in THAT kind of atmosphere? It's not about two people not being able to provide for a child....lots of moral people can do that.....but it is IMPOSSIBLE for them to raise that child in a Godly manner..when by their very nature, they are haters of the ONE TRUE GOD, and His Son...my Lord, Christ Jesus.
Sry for the lengthy answer bro...lol....but I'm very certain God did not rescue me from this hell for nothing...and I get kinda passionate about truth when it comes to people being lead astray on the topic.
C
Not before God do you have any right to take children into a corrupt union and therefore corrupt them in their most formative years to accept that which God has condemned as an abomination. Only by laws having nothing to do with God do you have such a right. And no, it is NOT better to have corrupt parents rather than no parents at all, for our ultimate parent is our Father in Heaven, and such earthly parents might well separate a child from his/her ultimate Father's will and quite possibly His eternal presence by teaching that child to accept what is wrong as right. That child's time on earth is temporary, and nothing within this temporary state is worth putting a child's eternal state in jeopardy.
It's real bro. And the whole matter has been all over the news, at least US news. He's now known as the first US president to officially support gay marriage. You can search Google. Here's one example:
Obama becomes first U.S. president to confirm support for gay marriage - The Globe and Mail
Obama becomes first U.S. president to confirm support for gay marriage - The Globe and Mail