Obama's Argument

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Mitspa

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p_rehbein said:
Feel free to rebuke me then, because I certainly DO NOT want convicted felons, known terrorists, street gang members, rapists, murders to HAVE THE RIGHT to possess a weapon. Drug dealers/drug gangs.........wife/child beaters are a couple more that should not have that right.

I do not want the mentally ill to possess weapons.

Now, you may be against gun control, and that is your right, but maybe you should think a little more about your statement?
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We already have these laws... but the gun laws are not being enforced on these groups ...they are not going into the hood to disarm the criminals ..they are trying to disarm the honest people. As they open the doors of our nation to more and more criminals ... If someone (a citizen) has proven that they cant be trusted with a gun..then due process to take away that constitutional right must be used. A non-citizen should not have a right to a firearm here.
 
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Mitspa said:
We already have these laws... but the gun laws are not being enforced on these groups ...they are not going into the hood to disarm the criminals ..they are trying to disarm the honest people. As they open the doors of our nation to more and more criminals ... If someone (a citizen) has proven that they cant be trusted with a gun..then due process to take away that constitutional right must be used. A non-citizen should not have a right to a firearm here.
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I said much of this in the OP...........that being said...........YOU stated:


So let me make this clear...anyone that attempts to promote gun control in our nation or seems to give cover for those who do? Is going to get a sharp rebuke from me and are going to get challenged in a very strong way in regards to their logic. Its not personal...



Yet, you are clearly in favor of gun control?
 
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p_rehbein said:
I said much of this in the OP...........that being said...........YOU stated:


So let me make this clear...anyone that attempts to promote gun control in our nation or seems to give cover for those who do? Is going to get a sharp rebuke from me and are going to get challenged in a very strong way in regards to their logic. Its not personal...



Yet, you are clearly in favor of gun control?
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No you fail to understand the terms being used in the discussion ... or you just trying to nit-pick words. The term "gun-control" is used in general by conservatives to define the leftist push to further restrict the constitutional rights we have.
 
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No you fail to understand the terms being used in the discussion ... or you just trying to nit-pick words. The term "gun-control" is used in general by conservatives to define the leftist push to further restrict the constitutional rights we have.
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You do realize that I AUTHORED the OP? I think I know what the subject of discussion is............. :)

Gun control/any way you define it/means any attempt to enact Legislation that places restrictions on gun ownership, and/or the type of guns which can be legally sold/owned. That isn't nit-picking, it is simple fact.

You might want to read the OP?
 
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p_rehbein said:
You do realize that I AUTHORED the OP? I think I know what the subject of discussion is............. :)

Gun control/any way you define it/means any attempt to enact Legislation that places restrictions on gun ownership, and/or the type of guns which can be legally sold/owned. That isn't nit-picking, it is simple fact.

You might want to read the OP?
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Sorry if you misunderstood what I mean by the term..but if you discuss this issue with conservatives ..they will often use the term as I did....better if your not confused again.
 
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Sorry if you misunderstood what I mean by the term..but if you discuss this issue with conservatives ..they will often use the term as I did....better if your not confused again.
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I discuss this and other issues with Conservatives on a daily basis, and you are the first to try and redefine "gun control." I discuss this and other issues with Liberals on a daily basis, and you are the first to try and redefine "gun control."

[h=1]Gun control[/h]From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Not to be confused with international arms restrictions, called Arms control.

A gun show in Houston, Texas.​

Gun control generally refers to laws or policies that regulate the manufacture, sale, transfer, possession, modification, or use offirearms. They vary greatly around the world. Some countries, such as the United Kingdom, have very strict limits on gun possession while others, like the United States, have, compared to most industrial democracies, relatively few restrictions (although policies vary from state to state).
Proponents of gun control generally argue that widespread gun ownership increases the danger of gun-related crime, homicide, and suicide.[SUP][1][/SUP] Opponents argue that gun control does not reduce gun-related injuries, murder, or suicide, and some argue that certain regulations violate individual liberties.[SUP][2][/SUP]

 
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