Pope Francis: 'I may have only 2-3 years left'

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Blain

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Who are you to judge? The Pope asked who is he to judge, as his excuse not to take a stand against sin. If you want to hitch a ride this Pope's wagon, who are you to judge me? Good riddance, and the sooner the better.

Wanting a bad leader gone isn't hate. And, if it is, so what?
We are only called to love not hate, if we allow hatred to enter our hearts it will consume it like a virus
 

LRG

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We are only called to love not hate, if we allow hatred to enter our hearts it will consume it like a virus
But yet how many Christians talk the talk and don't walk the walk? I've met lots of so called Christian hypocrites. Especially on the internet. They have one standard for themselves and another for everyone else. But does anyone really care? No. It is all about them and their image.

There is nothing worse than a self-absorbed hypocrite.
 
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Oh the things you read on CC...
 

Blain

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But yet how many Christians talk the talk and don't walk the walk? I've met lots of so called Christian hypocrites. Especially on the internet. They have one standard for themselves and another for everyone else. But does anyone really care? No. It is all about them and their image.

There is nothing worse than a self-absorbed hypocrite.
When I became a Christian I swore I would be love and only love but as for my image I will be the lowly servant in ragged clothing because I have to become the least in both heaven and earth. But I do know and see what you speak of Jesus warned us this would happen
 

LRG

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Is the Pope my enemy? Did Christ also say that we are to love His enemies? Did Christ also say we are not to want bad leaders to be replaced with good leaders? Did Christ never use hyperbole?

I find it to be completely compatible with Christ's teachings to want the current Pople out of office. Indeed, Christian values requires it.



Yes, I am a Calvinist. If I weren't, I'd feel guilty for not praying for the Pope's assassination, because souls would be on the line.
I give you credit for being honest. A lot of people on here just ignore you when you ask direct questions. Like they have something to hide.

However, the world being as it is people are free to accept or reject the Catholic faith. There will always be corruption and heresy because this is a fallen world. People need to fear God and want to seek the truth. If people would read the scriptures rather than following man and wanting to be accepted in a particular group then a lot of this could be avoided.

There is a lot I don't agree with the Catholic faith but they do have the basic tenets of Christianity such as the trinity, deity of Christ, eternal punishment, etc. But they add a whole bunch of traditions that are misleading and deceptive.

There is a difference between God's divine will and his permissive will. God allows a lot of things in this world that he doesn't agree with but one day he will put an end to all the evil and the Devil. That time hasn't arrived yet so we are stuck in a world where good and evil exist side by side.

As for the Pope? I don't follow him or the Catholic religion so it is not an issue for me. What they do that is heresy I would speak out against that but people are free to choose and this is to be expected. The Bible states it is the few who are saved and not the many. People who reject the truth in essence are damning themselves.
 

LRG

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When I became a Christian I swore I would be love and only love but as for my image I will be the lowly servant in ragged clothing because I have to become the least in both heaven and earth. But I do know and see what you speak of Jesus warned us this would happen
I'm glad you feel that way. You are the exception to the rule. To me there is nothing worse than an insincere person or a backstabber. Even if you make a mistake if you are willing to communicate and humble yourself then you are a real person with a real faith and have a real heart and are not just out wearing a religious mask.
 

Desdichado

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I'm surprised nobody else has really stopped to appreciate this interesting little historical phenomena. Two Popes may be resigning in succession. If I were conspiracy theorist, I would be spinning so many balls of yarn right now. Alas, I'm just another one of those lame Augustinian Christians that still harbors some respect for bloody Papists while exercising enough reason to determine the difference between pagan fatalism and predestination. ;)

Incidentally, the Pope "deserves" nerve damage insofar as he is a sinful human being and deserves elements of the fall.

Now to a more interesting question: Why is this happening?

Are people living older and so papal retirements are to be expected?
Is the job of Pope that much more stressful?
Are there forces within the Vatican who want to make the office a revolving door?
What does Francis know that we don't?
Will the next Pope be younger to prevent this from happening again?
What if he retires?
Should I open a Papal retirement home to make a tidy sum?
 

LRG

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I'm surprised nobody else has really stopped to appreciate this interesting little historical phenomena. Two Popes may be resigning in succession. If I were conspiracy theorist, I would be spinning so many balls of yarn right now. Alas, I'm just another one of those lame Augustinian Christians that still harbors some respect for bloody Papists while exercising enough reason to determine the difference between pagan fatalism and predestination. ;)

Incidentally, the Pope "deserves" nerve damage insofar as he is a sinful human being and deserves elements of the fall.

Now to a more interesting question: Why is this happening?

Are people living older and so papal retirements are to be expected?
Is the job of Pope that much more stressful?
Are there forces within the Vatican who want to make the office a revolving door?
What does Francis know that we don't?
Will the next Pope be younger to prevent this from happening again?
What if he retires?
Should I open a Papal retirement home to make a tidy sum?
Very funny. Life is not a soap opera. But then again???
 

LRG

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Oh the things you read on CC...
Listen Ugly:

I tried to resolve this issue with you but you continue to accuse me of calling names and being a hypocrite on the forums. That is a bloody lie from the Devil and I will not put up with it.

No matter what I say you twist it. You have no right to treat me with such disdain. You claim you are a Christian. Well then why can you not communicate? Why do you falsely accuse? Why don't you listen? Why do you hold a grudge? Why don't you forgive? Etc....

Your post is ignorant and I know it was directed at me. It was a jab.

This is not right.
 

LRG

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Oh the things you read on CC...

Well Ugly and really what kind of name is that for someone who claims to be a Christian?

I have thought about how I have been treated on here by some people and it is rotten.

You accuse me of name calling yet you have called me a troll you have called other people's boyfriends or husbands jerks, etc. You think you know it all but you know diddly squat. Other than this post recently you responded to me on another thread stating you know about abuse based on books and people you have known. So what? Why bother me after your nasty crap on my prayer request which ended up being closed because of the crap going on and on. So for you to make this comment shows you are antagonizing me on purpose. Sick!

Some people on here are totally pathetic. You are nothing more than gossips and backstabbers under the guise of Christianity. Especially your friend ladybug. What a piece of work she is. I was actually sticking up for someone else that she was insulting on a marriage post and what do I get for it? Trashed by a bunch of losers. Does anyone come to my defense? No. Because you don't care what is right or wrong. You accused me of being a troll. Yet what was I doing? Sticking up for someone else whom I thought was being unfairly attacked by ladybug and defending myself on my own prayer request. And then being the gossips that you are you get your internet pretend friends to gang up and I get a most vile insult from a person who is dumb as a sack of nails.

Bottom line is I have had enough of people like you and your kind on here. Some of you really have nothing better to do with your time so that is why you are here most of the time sticking your head up people's behinds. Most disgusting. You don't care nor do you try to understand where a person is coming from. You can say all you want but you and your little buddy ladybug and some others don't reflect Christ at all.

Oh the things you read on CC..... Maybe you should rephrase that to Oh the fakes you meet on CC.......

Just in case you try to lie about me and falsely accuse or get your internet loser friends to gang up on me again I will post the message I sent you trying to resolve this and your most Christian response and my further response to you which you may have not read since you claimed to put me on ignore. The Devil has sure used you and people like you to hurt me and I no longer wish to be in a place where people think they can abuse me and get away with it. I won't be coming back so unless you want to make yourself look bad just keep your snide remarks to yourself.

Message I sent:

Hello Sir:

I don't go out of my way to make personal jabs at you so I would appreciate it if you wouldn't do that to me.

If you don't like me then that is fine.

But you could at least not go out of your way to be ignorant.

Thank you for your consideration.


Response I received:

Name calling again. More of the same from you. You went out of your way to call me ignorant, while telling me you don't go out of your way. Same hypocrisy as in the forums. Welcome to my ignore feature. Will be nice for me to not have to roll my eyes every time i see your post, or, in this case, your mail, as you contradict yourself.


Message I sent to your response:

I'm sorry you feel that way but I did not contradict myself.

I said not to go out of your way to be ignorant. Your comment was ignorant so that is what I meant.

It doesn't matter what I say or how I say it you will always find a problem with it.

I tried to remedy the situation but you refuse.

So it is your problem and not mine.

Thank you.
 

Jackson123

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Jesus teach us to love our enemy. A lot of people misunderstood and interpreted not to tell the truth.

To say catholic is heresy will be consider hatred.

It wrong. If we love our catholic brother and sister, we must say catholic is not Christian. Catholic warship and pray to Mary. unfortunately, our catholic brother and sister always say they not pray to but as Mary pray for them.

This is what happen in the catholic wedding in Indonesia.

Prayer to Mary

From the title we know that it is pray to, not asking Mary to pray. it is big different between pray to an ask for.


PRAYER BEFORE THE MOTHER MARY BRIDE

Bride, accompanied by witnesses and the priest, came to the front of the statue of Mother Mary. The groom helps the bride put flowers so that the altar of Mary became more beautiful to look at, and the groom take the candle - prepared for the bride to turn it on. Then kneel together - make the sign of the cross and delivered the following prayer: (in conjunction with the choir singing the SONG MARIA).




Option 1:

Bride both:

Virgin Mary, Mother of good, you have know the two of us in each of our meetings. Even this day you know our love inauguration.( Is Mary Omni present? Is Mary God know everything?) Look Mom, we're both facing you. help intertwining silk thread between me and him, so that the fire of love that exists in our lives and would not wilt smoldering . I believe that he is a gift you gave to me, while I was a gift you gave to him. Hopefully, mutual trust and mutual understanding grows in the hearts of both of us. Finally, O Mother, be with us and Stand by us in every step of our family coaching. Amen.


You see, they believe their spouse is a give from Mary. Isn't mean elevate Mary as a God?

They think Mary able to hear they pray, they kneel in front of Mary statue, like pagan religion. Is that bible base teaching?

Is that apostolic, In fact they believe as the only true and apostolic church, while the teaching is the most pagan.

If we love them, we have to remain them. If we hate them than ignore it and do not care if they go to hell, for pray to Mary and elevate Mary as a God.
 
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tourist

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#33
I give you credit for being honest. A lot of people on here just ignore you when you ask direct questions. Like they have something to hide.

However, the world being as it is people are free to accept or reject the Catholic faith. There will always be corruption and heresy because this is a fallen world. People need to fear God and want to seek the truth. If people would read the scriptures rather than following man and wanting to be accepted in a particular group then a lot of this could be avoided.

There is a lot I don't agree with the Catholic faith but they do have the basic tenets of Christianity such as the trinity, deity of Christ, eternal punishment, etc. But they add a whole bunch of traditions that are misleading and deceptive.

There is a difference between God's divine will and his permissive will. God allows a lot of things in this world that he doesn't agree with but one day he will put an end to all the evil and the Devil. That time hasn't arrived yet so we are stuck in a world where good and evil exist side by side.

As for the Pope? I don't follow him or the Catholic religion so it is not an issue for me. What they do that is heresy I would speak out against that but people are free to choose and this is to be expected. The Bible states it is the few who are saved and not the many. People who reject the truth in essence are damning themselves.
I agree with your stance on the Catholic faith. This is a well written post.
 

tourist

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Well Ugly and really what kind of name is that for someone who claims to be a Christian?

I have thought about how I have been treated on here by some people and it is rotten.

You accuse me of name calling yet you have called me a troll you have called other people's boyfriends or husbands jerks, etc. You think you know it all but you know diddly squat. Other than this post recently you responded to me on another thread stating you know about abuse based on books and people you have known. So what? Why bother me after your nasty crap on my prayer request which ended up being closed because of the crap going on and on. So for you to make this comment shows you are antagonizing me on purpose. Sick!

Some people on here are totally pathetic. You are nothing more than gossips and backstabbers under the guise of Christianity. Especially your friend ladybug. What a piece of work she is. I was actually sticking up for someone else that she was insulting on a marriage post and what do I get for it? Trashed by a bunch of losers. Does anyone come to my defense? No. Because you don't care what is right or wrong. You accused me of being a troll. Yet what was I doing? Sticking up for someone else whom I thought was being unfairly attacked by ladybug and defending myself on my own prayer request. And then being the gossips that you are you get your internet pretend friends to gang up and I get a most vile insult from a person who is dumb as a sack of nails.

Bottom line is I have had enough of people like you and your kind on here. Some of you really have nothing better to do with your time so that is why you are here most of the time sticking your head up people's behinds. Most disgusting. You don't care nor do you try to understand where a person is coming from. You can say all you want but you and your little buddy ladybug and some others don't reflect Christ at all.

Oh the things you read on CC..... Maybe you should rephrase that to Oh the fakes you meet on CC.......

Just in case you try to lie about me and falsely accuse or get your internet loser friends to gang up on me again I will post the message I sent you trying to resolve this and your most Christian response and my further response to you which you may have not read since you claimed to put me on ignore. The Devil has sure used you and people like you to hurt me and I no longer wish to be in a place where people think they can abuse me and get away with it. I won't be coming back so unless you want to make yourself look bad just keep your snide remarks to yourself.

Message I sent:

Hello Sir:

I don't go out of my way to make personal jabs at you so I would appreciate it if you wouldn't do that to me.

If you don't like me then that is fine.

But you could at least not go out of your way to be ignorant.

Thank you for your consideration.


Response I received:

Name calling again. More of the same from you. You went out of your way to call me ignorant, while telling me you don't go out of your way. Same hypocrisy as in the forums. Welcome to my ignore feature. Will be nice for me to not have to roll my eyes every time i see your post, or, in this case, your mail, as you contradict yourself.


Message I sent to your response:

I'm sorry you feel that way but I did not contradict myself.

I said not to go out of your way to be ignorant. Your comment was ignorant so that is what I meant.

It doesn't matter what I say or how I say it you will always find a problem with it.

I tried to remedy the situation but you refuse.

So it is your problem and not mine.

Thank you.
An absolutely outstanding post, per your usual.
 
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didymos

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Pope Francis: 'I may have only 2-3 years left'...
Why is this in 'News?' This quote is like 2 months old.

Brilliant idea btw, to retire like his predecessor did.
A new pope will be elected and then we'll have THREE popes etc...
When will the madness end? :eek:



 

Jackson123

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Why is this in 'News?' This quote is like 2 months old.

Brilliant idea btw, to retire like his predecessor did.
A new pope will be elected and then we'll have THREE popes etc...
When will the madness end? :eek:



I believe for the big guy like Pope, everything he say will be in the news. Why you said it is brilliant? I learn about catholic but not as deep as you. You may have a deeper understanding, for being stay in catholic country. Please share with us.

As outsider, I can see if this is brilliant or not.
 

notuptome

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Two years to his retirement would fit right in with the obama leaving office. The formation of a one world government will come through the religious door.

The world is being reshaped for the end times.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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Why is this in 'News?' This quote is like 2 months old.

Brilliant idea btw, to retire like his predecessor did.
A new pope will be elected and then we'll have THREE popes etc...
When will the madness end? :eek:
That's pretty embarrassing to have two living, retired popes, of a life-long appointment. But, given the current embarrassment in office, two retired popes is the lessor embarrassment.
 
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didymos

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I believe for the big guy like Pope, everything he say will be in the news. Why you said it is brilliant? I learn about catholic but not as deep as you. You may have a deeper understanding, for being stay in catholic country. Please share with us.

As outsider, I can see if this is brilliant or not.

It will be in the news, unfortunately, but not for EVER. I surely do NOT 'stay' in a catholic country, thank you very much. Fyi, sometimes someone may use a word (like 'brilliant'), but mean the exact opposite, it's called sarcasm.
 

Agricola

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Is this a good time to watch some Lutheran Satire?

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