Prayer Alert for Israel

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Waggles

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34 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which kill the prophets, and stone
them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered
thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her
wings, and ye would not!
35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily
I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye
shall say, Blessed is he that comes in the name of the Lord.
Luke 13:

4 For the children of Israel shall abide many days without a king,
and without a prince, and without a sacrifice, and without an image,
and without an ephod, and without teraphim:
5 Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD
their God, and David their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness
in the latter days.

Hosea 3:

And as we all know LORD is none other than Jesus.
 

joaniemarie

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34 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which kill the prophets, and stone
them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered
thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her
wings, and ye would not!
35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily
I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye
shall say, Blessed is he that comes in the name of the Lord.
Luke 13:

4 For the children of Israel shall abide many days without a king,
and without a prince, and without a sacrifice, and without an image,
and without an ephod, and without teraphim:
5 Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD
their God, and David their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness
in the latter days.

Hosea 3:

And as we all know LORD is none other than Jesus.

And how many of us have not done exactly the same thing? God is not done with the nation of Israel or His chosen people.
He is the God of restoration. For them and for us. They are the line that brought Jesus in., God used them to pen the Scriptures and we are grafted in. They need to be saved just as we did. God is not through with the Jewish people and we are told not to lorde it over them as if we are better. It's by His grace any of us are anything.
 

prove-all

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And as we all know LORD is none other than Jesus.
Who do you think are living in the [state] of Israel today?

Do you know the diference between the House of Judah,
and the house of Israel ?

Israel shall abide many days without a king,
Ever heard of Jeremiahs strange commision?

Why on earth would we have the list below in this link?
The Queen's Royal Descent from King David of Judah

Could it be because of the promises given to King David are true?
 

Waggles

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And how many of us have not done exactly the same thing? God is not done with the nation of Israel or His chosen people.
He is the God of restoration. For them and for us. They are the line that brought Jesus in., God used them to pen the Scriptures and we are grafted in. They need to be saved just as we did. God is not through with the Jewish people and we are told not to lorde it over them as if we are better. It's by His grace any of us are anything.
Joanmarie what are you going on about?
No one is lording it over the Jews.
No one is denying that the Jews are in need of redemption as like
all other peoples.
No one denies that the Jews are still blessed through Abraham and Isaac.
Jerusalem and Israel today have been restored to a pivotal role that will
destroy the nations (and especially Islam)
Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces
like a potter's vessel.

What annoys me are the U.S. evangelical ministries (like Hagee)
who twist scripture and promote Israel and the Jews as a holy
nation and God's chosen people and that we must blindly support
them financially and politically in all that they do.
Israel is always righteous and the Palestinians and others are
the bad guys.


Israel and the Jews are worldly people behaving mostly badly in
the flesh with a great deal of violence and antagonism against
Palestinians and Arabs(both Muslim and Christian).
They still deny and mock Jesus and Christian faith.

The Jews may have been victims in 1945 but they certainly are
not these days.
God is dealing with Isaac and Ishmael who both claim the land
through Abraham.
When you read the minor prophets on the second coming of our
Lord it is clearly evident that again both Jerusalem and the Jews
will suffer catastrophically in the last days > Armageddon.

Why is this so?
 

Waggles

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Who do you think are living in the [state] of Israel today?
Do you know the diference between the House of Judah,
and the house of Israel ?


Ever heard of Jeremiahs strange commision?
Why on earth would we have the list below in this link?
The Queen's Royal Descent from King David of Judah
Could it be because of the promises given to King David are true?
Yes you are referring to British Israel and the "lost" ten tribes of Israel
becoming the principal European nations, with Britain being Ephraim.
Ezekiel 37 the two sticks wherewith Judah and Ephraim are joined
together once more.

This is where Hagee and many other Christian Zionists get messed up
in claiming Judah to be Israel.
Salvation went to the gentiles, whilst the Jews were to suffer rejection
for not knowing and praising our Lord's first visitation.
They will see Him again and in the last day God will pour out His Holy
Spirit upon those who survive the destruction of Jerusalem and they
will know and call on the name of the Lord - finally their Messiah who
will save them and restore Israel (Ephraim and Judah).
 

Waggles

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4 Part TV dramatic series - "The Promise"

extremely insightful and honest history of the last years of the
British Palestine mandate and the establishment of the modern
state of Israel in 1948

Perhaps it is the vivid recreation of the British soldier’s experience of the past that provoked much of the outrage because we are reminded of the full extent of Jewish terrorism in the last years of the mandate. Episodes depict the King David Hotel bombing, the kidnapping and murder of British soldiers and the Deir Yassin massacre. A crucial romantic thread reveals the deployment of Jewish honeytrap hostesses whose job is to gather intelligence by seducing guileless troops. A central character, German Jewish immigrant Clara Rosenbaum (Katharina Schuttler), has an affair with the sergeant but turns out to be secretly working with the Irgun, one of the pre-state Zionist militias.
Epic series "The Promise" dramatizes palestine both past and present

The Promise - All 4
 

prove-all

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Is all the violence in Gaza Israel’s fault?

Approximately 30,000 Palestinians marched on the border between the Gaza Strip
and Israel last Friday, beginning what Hamas is calling the “Great March of Return.”

This so-called peaceful march, scheduled to last six weeks, has already seen
18 people killed and 1,500 injured, according to Palestinian estimates.

Western media and politicians worldwide immediately blamed Israel.
To the West, the Israelis are the perpetrators of crimes against innocent
and defenseless Palestinian victims.

What is the truth?

The Israelis have no desire to conquer Gaza. In fact, they had control of it and
gave it up. Israel exercised sovereignty over the Gaza Strip until the mid-2000s,
when the government ordered the complete withdrawal of more than 8,000 Jews
from the territory.

After Israel pulled out, the Palestinians had free reign. After vicious infighting
between Palestinian factions, in which rivals threw each other to their deaths
from the tops of buildings, Hamas came out on top. The terrorist organization
won subsequent elections and has ruled Palestinians in Gaza ever since.

Ten years later, many Gazans would be happy to come out from beneath the yoke
of Hamas. But Hamas remains in control of the area and of this March of Return.

This background seldom features in the chorus of criticism against Israel.
https://www.thetrumpet.com/17111-hamass-march-of-return
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According to the pope, many defenseless people have died in this conflict.
Many innocent people have indeed been killed over the years of Israeli
-Palestinian conflict. But how defenseless are the Palestinians involved in
the Hamas-backed March of Return?

Israel Defense Forces (idf) soldiers have been widely criticized for using
live ammunition against protesters instead of rubber bullets. But the soldiers
were not indiscriminately firing bullets into masses of unarmed protesters.

They were targeting specific individuals.

The idf recently released information and pictures of 10 of the 18 individuals killed
on Friday. All of them were Hamas operatives or involved in terrorist activities.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-a...at-gaza-border-were-members-of-terror-groups/
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The Israeli military is generally scrupulous about protecting civilians and upholding
the rules of war. Its enemies often use this against them. Hamas orders women and
children onto the rooftops of buildings where it has stored missiles, knowing that
Israelis will spare their lives and therefore spare the missiles.

Israel also repeatedly warns people ahead of time of where it is about to strike.
Before targeting an area, Israeli forces call people on their phones and drops
leaflets into areas warning civilians, We are about to bomb your location.

Of course, Hamas receives these leaflets as well and is often able to relocate
their terrorist weaponry before the strike.
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Yet Israel still goes through this process in order to save civilian lives.
It’s clear that the people targeted by the idf are those who were charging
the border to get over the fence, laying explosives and shooting.

This is not quite the peaceful protest it has been portrayed as. But none
of that matters to the media—those people were apparently “defenseless.”

Like European Union Federica Mogherini also defended the Palestinians in a
statement last week. Her March 31 statement made [not one mention of Hamas].
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Hezbollah has been fully funded by Iran for decades, while Hamas’s relationship
with Iran comes and goes. Recently, Hamas and Iran have been rekindling their
relationship, which was damaged during the Syrian civil war. Over the past year,
Hamas has attended several meetings in Tehran.

Times of Israel published a piece on March 22 titled “Hamas Seeking Alliance
With Iran, Hezbollah to Foil Trump Peace Plan.”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas...an-hezbollah-to-foil-trump-peace-plan-report/
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The six-week Great March of Return will culminate on May 15, which is known by
Palestinians and Arabs across the Middle East as Nakba Day, or catastrophe day.

On May 14, 1948, Israel was made a state. Arabs across the Middle East saw this
as a catastrophe. May 14 also marks the day that U.S. President Donald Trump will
move the U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Added to that, the Iranian deal
might be terminated around the same time on May 12.
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The danger is that this march could incorporate more than just Hamas. In refugee
camps in Southern Lebanon, there are around 500,000 refugees including their
descendants from the 1948 war. In Syria and Jordan, there are even more.
What if they decide to join the march as well?

As Simon Tisdall of the Guardian brought out in his article from March 31,
all of these factors culminate in “a spring season of looming flash points ….”
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ip-israel-conflict-border-season-of-conflicts
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The bible says that The Palestinians will take half of Jerusalem, in the end time.
 
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prove-all

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The Israeli Army has been firing live ammunition into these
protestors - 15 dead, and a couple of hundred wounded.

Anywhere else this would be called out as "war crimes" and
deliberately targeting civilians.
Israel's Army need to learn how to deal better in protecting the
security fences without shooting dead civilians.
The terrorist group Hamas, which controls the Gaza Strip, organized tens of
thousands of people to storm Gaza’s border with Israel over the weekend.

Amidst the thousands of protesters were heavily-armed Hamas militants,
several of which fired upon Israeli positions across the border.


Hamas shielded themselves behind their own women and children to make
it seem like Israel was the aggressor, indiscriminately firing upon “civilians.”

And the left-wing media, as usual, played along.
 

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There are two things I notice regarding prayers for Israel.

1 Hardly anyone on site seems to bother about the Jewish Apostasy. How often do you see any prayers for their conversion to Christ?

2 How many do you see for the Christian minority in Israel?
 

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As long as Israel worships the True God and never persecutes Christians, It will never be invaded or exterminated by any nations.

do not fret Christian brethren.
 

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Palestinians ‘Pay-to-slay’ program is subsidized by everyday Americans. If you are
American and you pay taxes, then your funds are going toward paying terrorists.

According to Times of Israel, the Palestinian Authority (PA) receives approximately
$600 million annually from the United States. Much of this goes to the operational
costs of the PA and its internal programs.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/how-much-aid-does-the-us-give-palestinians-and-whats-it-for/


One such program is the Palestinian Authority Martyrs Fund. Through this fund,
the PA pays the families of men and women who carry out terrorist attacks.
It is referred to as the “pay-to-slay” program.

Any Palestinian wanting to pick up a knife to stab a soldier or drive a car onto a
crowded footpath has the added incentive of knowing that his family’s bank accounts
will benefit from his terrorist act. The Martyrs Fund rewards those who kill and maim.
It encourages terror. It would not be as well-funded without U.S. taxpayer dollars.

The United States government is well aware of this, and the Trump administration
has taken steps to stop it. On March 23, President Donald Trump signed the
Taylor Force Act into law. This legislation stops all economic aid unless the PA
ends the martyr program. The Palestinian leadership has criticized the act.


“Of course we categorically reject this,” said PA President Mahmoud Abbas.
“We will not under any circumstances allow anyone to harm the families of the
prisoners, the wounded and the martyrs. They are our children and they are our
families. They honor us, and we will continue to pay them before the living.”


Abbas dismissed the underhanded approach of siphoning off aid to supplement
the fund. Now he unashamedly promotes it. According to Palestinian Media Watch,
the latest PA budget allocates nearly 8 percent of its total operational budget to
the Martyrs Fund. That is almost 44 percent of total foreign aid, or $355 million.
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Taylor Force was an American war veteran and student visiting Israel in 2016.
On March 8, he was stabbed to death by a Palestinian terrorist. Taylor’s attacker
was killed. The terrorist’s relatives now receive a pension larger than the income
earned by the average Palestinian.


While the U.S. is finally reacting, the Palestinians seem hardly concerned. Many
Arab nations sponsor the Palestinians, as does the European Union and a host of
nongovernmental organizations. In 2016, flushed-with-cash Iran also promised
to pay Palestinian “martyrs.”
Iran Promises to Pay Family of Every Palestinian ‘Martyr’


Even with the Taylor Force Act in place, American taxpayer money will continue
to go into Palestinian accounts. The PA security forces and intelligence agencies
receive separate economic aid that is unaffected by the act.


Columnist Brad Macdonald wrote:

Ever since he has taken office, Abbas has repeatedly mocked his “moderate”
status with provocative words and radical actions. … Rather than cracking down
on terrorist activity, he approved sending government financial aid for the families
of multiple thousands of suicide terrorists, as well as for terrorists who are wounded
or sitting in Israeli prisons.
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The agenda of Abbas and the Palestinians is not mysterious.
A man who runs a “pay-to-slay” program is not interested in peace.