Sarah Palin Warned in 2008 Russia Might Invade Ukraine if Obama Wins Election

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Elizabeth619

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In October 2008, then-Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin warned that Putin, having been motivated by Obama's lack of response to the Russian invasion of Georgia, would proceed to invade Ukraine if then-Senator Obama was elected to the presidency.
After the Russian Army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama's reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence, the kind of response that would only encourage Russia's Putin to invade Ukraine next.​
Foreign Policy dismissed this warning as "strange" and "far-fetched."
As we've said before, this is an extremely far-fetched scenario. And given how Russia has been able to unsettle Ukraine's pro-Western government without firing a shot, I don't see why violence would be necessary to bring Kiev to heel.
Yesterday, Russia invaded the Crimean peninsula of Ukraine and seized control of two airports.
Seems as though Palin's prediction wasn't too far-fetched after all.


http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2014/03/01/sarah-palin-warned-in-2008-russia-might-invade-ukraine-if-obama-wins-election-n1802374

 
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In October 2008, then-Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin warned that Putin, having been motivated by Obama's lack of response to the Russian invasion of Georgia, would proceed to invade Ukraine if then-Senator Obama was elected to the presidency.
After the Russian Army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama's reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence, the kind of response that would only encourage Russia's Putin to invade Ukraine next.​
Foreign Policy dismissed this warning as "strange" and "far-fetched."
As we've said before, this is an extremely far-fetched scenario. And given how Russia has been able to unsettle Ukraine's pro-Western government without firing a shot, I don't see why violence would be necessary to bring Kiev to heel.
Yesterday, Russia invaded the Crimean peninsula of Ukraine and seized control of two airports.
Seems as though Palin's prediction wasn't too far-fetched after all.


http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2014/03/01/sarah-palin-warned-in-2008-russia-might-invade-ukraine-if-obama-wins-election-n1802374

There isn't much Obama or any American president can do except speak harsh words of disapproval. Russia isn't Libya, Iraq or a weak third world country, but a power that we will not engage. A war with Russia will likely ignite WWIII and a nuclear holocaust. Russia's action has nothing to do with Obama being weak. BTW, Russia & China have an agreement to come to one another's aid if attacked or engaged in war.
 
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There isn't much Obama or any American president can do except speak harsh words of disapproval. Russia isn't Libya, Iraq or a weak third world country, but a power that we will not engage. A war with Russia will likely ignite WWIII and a nuclear holocaust. Russia's action has nothing to do with Obama being weak. BTW, Russia & China have an agreement to come to one another's aid if attacked or engaged in war.
I guess Reagan was the exception? Ever since Obama balked over the Syrian crisis, the sharks have sensed blood in the water.
 
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I guess Reagan was the exception? Ever since Obama balked over the Syrian crisis, the sharks have sensed blood in the water.
JFK did a deal with the USSR about missiles in their backyard. The Soviets removed missiles from Cuba; the US removed missiles from Turkey.

Russia has its own version of the Monroe Doctrine, too.
 
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In October 2008, then-Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin warned that Putin, having been motivated by Obama's lack of response to the Russian invasion of Georgia, would proceed to invade Ukraine if then-Senator Obama was elected to the presidency.
After the Russian Army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama's reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence, the kind of response that would only encourage Russia's Putin to invade Ukraine next.​
Foreign Policy dismissed this warning as "strange" and "far-fetched."
As we've said before, this is an extremely far-fetched scenario. And given how Russia has been able to unsettle Ukraine's pro-Western government without firing a shot, I don't see why violence would be necessary to bring Kiev to heel.
Yesterday, Russia invaded the Crimean peninsula of Ukraine and seized control of two airports.
Seems as though Palin's prediction wasn't too far-fetched after all.


http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2014/03/01/sarah-palin-warned-in-2008-russia-might-invade-ukraine-if-obama-wins-election-n1802374

Russia, with its fleet based in Crimea, is not going to let the policies of raging street protestors run its nuclear navy.

Western commentators need to stop pretending otherwise, or trying to convince themselves otherwise.
 
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There isn't much Obama or any American president can do except speak harsh words of disapproval. Russia isn't Libya, Iraq or a weak third world country, but a power that we will not engage. A war with Russia will likely ignite WWIII and a nuclear holocaust. Russia's action has nothing to do with Obama being weak. BTW, Russia & China have an agreement to come to one another's aid if attacked or engaged in war.[/QUOTE]

Russia has little regard for the US in spite of who the president is. Putin doesn't give Obama a second thought...much like China, N. Korea...or me.
 

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From what I remember of her she was just the usual typical opportunistic politician!

As regards what is happening in Ukraine, I reckon it is just the beginning of a long line of "international incidents" that Putin will be responsible for in the coming future...
 

Elizabeth619

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From what I remember of her she was just the usual typical opportunistic politician!

As regards what is happening in Ukraine, I reckon it is just the beginning of a long line of "international incidents" that Putin will be responsible for in the coming future...
Kind of like how people like to blame George Bush for everything?
 

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In October 2008, then-Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin warned that Putin, having been motivated by Obama's lack of response to the Russian invasion of Georgia, would proceed to invade Ukraine if then-Senator Obama was elected to the presidency.
After the Russian Army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama's reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence, the kind of response that would only encourage Russia's Putin to invade Ukraine next.​
Foreign Policy dismissed this warning as "strange" and "far-fetched."
As we've said before, this is an extremely far-fetched scenario. And given how Russia has been able to unsettle Ukraine's pro-Western government without firing a shot, I don't see why violence would be necessary to bring Kiev to heel.
Yesterday, Russia invaded the Crimean peninsula of Ukraine and seized control of two airports.
Seems as though Palin's prediction wasn't too far-fetched after all.


http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2014/03/01/sarah-palin-warned-in-2008-russia-might-invade-ukraine-if-obama-wins-election-n1802374

Amazingly though Russia took control over this country without killing anybody. Russia has an interest in Ukraine because of the it's Russia's only sea port to the Black Sea (they already have a sea port there) and the Mediterranean. There's really no reason why Ukraine should be of US interests. I'm not saying I'm in favor of what Russia has done and is doing, but I understand why Ukraine is important to Russia.
 
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Amazingly though Russia took control over this country without killing anybody. Russia has an interest in Ukraine because of the it's Russia's only sea port to the Black Sea (they already have a sea port there) and the Mediterranean. There's really no reason why Ukraine should be of US interests. I'm not saying I'm in favor of what Russia has done and is doing, but I understand why Ukraine is important to Russia.
This is why Putin's invasion is a very key and troubling incident at the moment. On the face of it right now America has no interest in it. But wait, America, Russia, and UK signed a deal with Ukraine when they surrendered their nuclear arsenal in the 1990s AD and agreed to key conditions therein. Russia has just technically violated that agreement, now per that agreement if the fresh-faced new interim Ukrainian government in Kiev calls upon America and UK to defend them as they agreed to then America and UK must either 1. honor agreement and commence to fight a war which will probably set humanity back a fair deal. Or 2. Refuse to go to war, appease an ambitious Putin, and also paradoxically have broken the same agreement with Ukraine that Russia just broke.

And so that is why USA and UK and of course all their allies within NATO ando ther separate alliances plus all Russia's allies, plus the rest of the world that is all ready by semantic technicality been fighting a war throughout the world for quite a while, have much reason to be disturbed by the recent event in Ukraine. However don't let it disturb you too much even if Putin has gone as far off the deep end as one can imagine, because no matter what God can still save his people even from jaws of death. It is still good to be concerned though, and I like how you pointed out while Putin's move was a total and blatant act of aggression he also killed no one which is something noteworthy indeed.

As for Sarah Palin, I wouldn't vote for her for President, and seeing as she resigned her position as Governor of Alaska I think she sees much more merit being a private citizen of America instead of politician lol. Either way though I always did think she was a lot smarter than the political smear machine of the democrat party cast her as. Maybe not the best due to lack of political experience for president level in my opinion and really McCain is kinda at fault for elevating her to international prominence by picking her for such a high level position when she was only a 1 term governor.
That aside though I personally thought in many regards she definantly is a smart woman on many regards, one could argue smarter than a politician as it seems she has realized how much more freedom one has to simply be a citizen of nation-wide and to a degree international reknown. If I were to be able to vote where to put her in American politics if she were interested perhaps House of Representatives or somewhere in local or state level US politics. The meat of her political record was as mayor which is her root experience and contrary to the scoffers her record in her positions, besides her critical error in resigning as governor, does actually show fairly positive governance.
 
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Desdichado

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As did Romney. Both were laughed at by delusional snobs so interested in getting away from the lessons of the centuries before us.
 
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In October 2008, then-Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin warned that Putin, having been motivated by Obama's lack of response to the Russian invasion of Georgia, would proceed to invade Ukraine if then-Senator Obama was elected to the presidency.
russia didn't invade georgia.
learn to use your television responsibly or turn it off.
 
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In October 2008, then-Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin warned that Putin, having been motivated by Obama's lack of response to the Russian invasion of Georgia, would proceed to invade Ukraine (...)
.. remember she's quite the expert on Russia... :rolleyes:


 
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As did Romney. Both were laughed at by delusional snobs so interested in getting away from the lessons of the centuries before us.
they are both delusional snobs.
 

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[h=3]Some people believe, President is only puppet. The real power is the big boss NWO. Look like persident
Eisenhower know or at lease see that there is institution other than government or shadowing
government behind the war. He call it military industrial complex.
after I read from multiple resource, This institution create war not just for money, but to destroy all
government in the world than she create one world government.
Look like Putin or Obama in charge, but this so call military industrial complex is working behind the
screen. She tray what ever she can to make war world III. to destroy every country or at least make
them weak and give hypocrite solution, and that is one world government.

She believe what so call Hegelian Doctrine.

Theses, antitheses and syntheses.

She secretly create problem in this case war world III. To destroy all the government,
To produce antitheses, People will need peace, when people experience war, not enough food,
and suffering, they desperately need peace.

Than she offer solution/synthesis. If you need peace than let make one government.

War is fight between countries because there are a lot of country. If only one country then war between
country is impossible.




Eisenhower's Military
-Industry Complex Warning, 50 Years Later ...

NPR : National Public Radio : News & Analysis, World, US, Music & Arts : NPRNewsUSGoverningNPR[/h]
Let connect these two dot.

y son, heretofore you have been taught to act the dissembler: among
Roman Catholics
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[h=3]EIPS - The Jesuit Oath Exposed[/h]www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=jesuit








 

Elizabeth619

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.. remember she's quite the expert on Russia... :rolleyes:


Actually she said "You can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska." and she is correct. In the middle of the Bering Strait between Alaska and Siberia are the Diomede Islands. The Little Diomede is part of the United States, and the Big Diomede is Russian territory which can be seen from parts of Alaska.


I really wish people would not get their political education from internet memes.
 
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Pretty much. For a real war to break out, Russia would have to move into a real NATO country (not one of these newly added buffer countries like Estonia, Latvia, Ukraine, etc...). If they were to push all the way into Poland or Austria, that might do the trick but like you say if it ever happened it would be over except for the roaches. I think China would try to steer clear of it militarily whatever arrangements they may have.

That said, one eschatological model has Europe joining with Russia and China economically and with regards to trade and just cutting the U.S. out leaving it isolated and deteriorating.

We shall see.

There isn't much Obama or any American president can do except speak harsh words of disapproval. Russia isn't Libya, Iraq or a weak third world country, but a power that we will not engage. A war with Russia will likely ignite WWIII and a nuclear holocaust. Russia's action has nothing to do with Obama being weak. BTW, Russia & China have an agreement to come to one another's aid if attacked or engaged in war.
 
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I see it this way too. Of course we would prefer that Russia, NATO, etc... just leave Ukraine alone and let them be an independent buffer country trading with whomever they wish but it is very much in Russia's national interest to exert control over the country to accomplish various critical objectives.

Us bossing Russia around with respect to the Ukraine is like Russia bossing us around with respect to Mexico. We need to make our voice heard diplomatically without threats. Obviously, we're not going to war with anyone over the Ukraine.


Amazingly though Russia took control over this country without killing anybody. Russia has an interest in Ukraine because of the it's Russia's only sea port to the Black Sea (they already have a sea port there) and the Mediterranean. There's really no reason why Ukraine should be of US interests. I'm not saying I'm in favor of what Russia has done and is doing, but I understand why Ukraine is important to Russia.