Sarah Palin Warned in 2008 Russia Might Invade Ukraine if Obama Wins Election

[PeterPolitik]

Ever hear of the Russo-Georgian war?
I guess you don't know how to use your own tv responsibly.

Published: November 6, 2008
TBILISI, Georgia — Newly available accounts by independent military observers of the beginning of the war between Georgia and Russia this summer call into question the longstanding Georgian assertion that it was acting defensively against separatist and Russian aggression.

Instead, the accounts suggest that Georgia’s inexperienced military attacked the isolated separatist capital of Tskhinvali on Aug. 7 with indiscriminate artillery and rocket fire, exposing civilians, Russian peacekeepers and unarmed monitors to harm.
New York Times



Few people believed that the fact-finding investigation into the 2008 Russia-Georgia war by the European Union -- which released its final report on September 30 -- would reveal new facts. But the report does confirm that Georgia acted irresponsibly in attempting to reconquer the secessionist region of South Ossetia by force, and that Russia acted irresponsibly in militarily intervening to prevent Georgia from overrunning South Ossetian militias and Russian peacekeepers.
Charles King
OCTOBER 11, 2009
Foreign Affairs Magazine

 

[PeterPolitik]

Oh the irony!

need help with the real history?

 

[PeterPolitik]

In October 2008, then-Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin warned that Putin, having been motivated by Obama's lack of response to the Russian invasion of Georgia, would proceed to invade Ukraine if then-Senator Obama was elected to the presidency.

After the Russian Army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama's reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence, the kind of response that would only encourage Russia's Putin to invade Ukraine next.​

Foreign Policy dismissed this warning as "strange" and "far-fetched."

As we've said before, this is an extremely far-fetched scenario. And given how Russia has been able to unsettle Ukraine's pro-Western government without firing a shot, I don't see why violence would be necessary to bring Kiev to heel.
​

Yesterday, Russia invaded the Crimean peninsula of Ukraine and seized control of two airports.
Seems as though Palin's prediction wasn't too far-fetched after all.


http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2014/03/01/sarah-palin-warned-in-2008-russia-might-invade-ukraine-if-obama-wins-election-n1802374

you can now correct your ill-informed piece passed on by that powerhouse of intellectual, political history, not to mention her abysmal geographical ignorance , sarah palin.

russia did not invade georgia. right?

 

[PeterPolitik]

You know we're not talking about the Peach State, right?

The Russo-Georgia War and the Challenge to American Global Dominance
Herbert P. Bix
The Asia-Pacific Journal

nearly a decade later and those who learn from their state-owned tv still don't know what happened.
which is why they don't know anything about the issue in Ukraine either.

 

[Elizabeth619]

Nah, I think I'll pass: she isn't THAT interesting...

Evidently to you she is. Otherwise you wouldn't frequent this thread with nothing but derogatory remarks that don't even pertain to the OP. Then again I didn't really expect anything different from you.

 

[Elizabeth619]

Published: November 6, 2008
TBILISI, Georgia — Newly available accounts by independent military observers of the beginning of the war between Georgia and Russia this summer call into question the longstanding Georgian assertion that it was acting defensively against separatist and Russian aggression.

Instead, the accounts suggest that Georgia’s inexperienced military attacked the isolated separatist capital of Tskhinvali on Aug. 7 with indiscriminate artillery and rocket fire, exposing civilians, Russian peacekeepers and unarmed monitors to harm.
New York Times



Few people believed that the fact-finding investigation into the 2008 Russia-Georgia war by the European Union -- which released its final report on September 30 -- would reveal new facts. But the report does confirm that Georgia acted irresponsibly in attempting to reconquer the secessionist region of South Ossetia by force, and that Russia acted irresponsibly in militarily intervening to prevent Georgia from overrunning South Ossetian militias and Russian peacekeepers.
Charles King
OCTOBER 11, 2009
Foreign Affairs Magazine

Did you actually read this before you posted it? "Accounts suggest that" and "reports do not confirm" is not a representation of facts. It's more like the beginning of a really cool conspiracy theory.

You can argue all day long about who invaded who which will be a never ending debate. Kind of like the ongoing arguments about Americas civil war which people still don't agree on the cause of the war.

 

[JimJimmers]

Even if Russia had good reason to invade Georgia, it does not follow that that means Russia didn't invade Georgia. That's like saying USA didn't invade Germany, because Germany started WW2. USA invaded Germany BECAUSE Germany started WW2.

 

[David_1]

Even if Russia had good reason to invade Georgia, it does not follow that that means Russia didn't invade Georgia. That's like saying USA didn't invade Germany, because Germany started WW2. USA invaded Germany BECAUSE Germany started WW2.

Does anyone else remember when the USA single handedly ended the war in WW2??

 

[Oncefallen]

Does anyone else remember when the USA single handedly ended the war in WW2??

**facepalm

I don't know of anyone who holds the delusion the the US won WW2 single handed, however I don't know of many who are ignorant enough to believe that WW2 would have had the same conclusion if the US had not joined in.

 

[PeterPolitik]

Even if Russia had good reason to invade Georgia, it does not follow that that means Russia didn't invade Georgia. That's like saying USA didn't invade Germany, because Germany started WW2. USA invaded Germany BECAUSE Germany started WW2.

russia didn't invade georgia.


Battle of Tskhinvali
Operation Clear Field

According to Konstantin Makienko, Deputy Director of the Centre for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies (CAST), the Georgian objective in the Battle of Tskhinvali was a rapid destruction of Ossetian armed forces and a lightning capture of Tskhinvali before the Russian army could have a chance to intervene. "It appears that during the night from 7 to 8 August. Tbilisi intended to deliver strikes on the positions of the Russian peacekeepers and the South Ossetian army in order to paralyze the chain of command. The next objective was to take Tskhinvali during 8 August, install a puppet government by Dmitry Sanakoyev and bring residents of Georgian enclaves in the republic onto the streets during pro-Georgia mass rallies."[30]

Operation Clear Field

Russian peacekeepers base in Tskhinvali
Early on the morning of 8 August, Georgia launched a ground attack (codenamed Operation Clear Field[34]) against Tskhinvali, as well as operations on the left and right flanks of the city. The left flank operation was undertaken by the 4th Infantry Brigade coming from Vaziane, while the 3rd Infantry Brigade from Kutaisi took to the right flank. The aim of the flank operations was to occupy important heights around Tskhinvali and then, moving further northwards, to take control of the strategically important Didi Gupta bridge and the roads, including the Ossetian-controlled Dzara by-pass road, leading from the Roki tunnel to Tskhinvali. This was done in order to block Russian reinforcements from travelling through the tunnel to Tskhinvali.[31]

 

[PeterPolitik]

Did you actually read this before you posted it? "Accounts suggest that" and "reports do not confirm" is not a representation of facts. It's more like the beginning of a really cool conspiracy theory.

You can argue all day long about who invaded who which will be a never ending debate. Kind of like the ongoing arguments about Americas civil war which people still don't agree on the cause of the war.

only the lazy would argue all day long.
the facts are known. evidently that's just an annoyance for you.
what you mean is, if the facts are posted all day long, you'll ignore them.

the titillating burble coming from prophetess sarah palin helps make russia our villian of the week, "the beginning of a really cool conspiracy theory". Sarah Palin Warned in 2008 Russia Might Invade Ukraine if Obama Wins Election

does she have other predictions of what would happen if obama would be elected? earthquakes? global warming?

 

[danschance]

In October 2008, then-Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin warned that Putin, having been motivated by Obama's lack of response to the Russian invasion of Georgia, would proceed to invade Ukraine if then-Senator Obama was elected to the presidency.

After the Russian Army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama's reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence, the kind of response that would only encourage Russia's Putin to invade Ukraine next.​

Foreign Policy dismissed this warning as "strange" and "far-fetched."

As we've said before, this is an extremely far-fetched scenario. And given how Russia has been able to unsettle Ukraine's pro-Western government without firing a shot, I don't see why violence would be necessary to bring Kiev to heel.
​

Yesterday, Russia invaded the Crimean peninsula of Ukraine and seized control of two airports.
Seems as though Palin's prediction wasn't too far-fetched after all.


http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2014/03/01/sarah-palin-warned-in-2008-russia-might-invade-ukraine-if-obama-wins-election-n1802374

Why would Sarah Palin as a VP candidate be warned about what Russia might do? Why wasn't McCain told? This smells like another make believe story about Obama, like he is the antichrist, a communist, a Muslim or that he is a alien reptilian humanoid.

 

[PeterPolitik]

Why would Sarah Palin as a VP candidate be warned about what Russia might do? Why wasn't McCain told? This smells like another make believe story about Obama, like he is the antichrist, a communist, a Muslim or that he is a alien reptilian humanoid.

here's the part that made me laugh.

In October 2008, then-Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin warned that Putin, having been motivated by Obama's lack of response to the Russian invasion of Georgia, would proceed to invade Ukraine if then-Senator Obama was elected to the presidency.

putin was emboldened to "invade ukraine" because senator obama didn't do something about the georgian aggression in south ossetia.

 

[Elizabeth619]

**facepalm

I don't know of anyone who holds the delusion the the US won WW2 single handed, however I don't know of many who are ignorant enough to believe that WW2 would have had the same conclusion if the US had not joined in.

Lol.
This thread has become quite entertaining. I think I'm gonna just sit back and watch at this point. It looks like a few may need to take anger management or realize that before this is a political website it's a Christian site and not "lose their religion" over news articles.

Who knew that posting something about Palin would spark such an outrage. And I didn't even support the woman!

 

[Nautilus]

Does anyone else remember when the USA single handedly ended the war in WW2??

Back to back World War champs buddy!

 

[faroukfarouk]

Back to back World War champs buddy!

The Soviets had a significant hand in winning the war in Europe in WW2.

The British took the cynical view that as long as the Nazis and the Soviets could thrash it out in a stalemate, they could sit pretty in 'splendid isolation'. But it didn't turn out that way.

 

[PeterPolitik]

Lol.
This thread has become quite entertaining. I think I'm gonna just sit back and watch at this point. It looks like a few may need to take anger management or realize that before this is a political website it's a Christian site and not "lose their religion" over news articles.

Who knew that posting something about Palin would spark such an outrage. And I didn't even support the woman!

In October 2008, then-Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin warned that Putin, having been motivated by Obama's lack of response to the Russian invasion of Georgia, would proceed to invade Ukraine if then-Senator Obama was elected to the presidency.

After the Russian Army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama's reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence, the kind of response that would only encourage Russia's Putin to invade Ukraine next.​

Foreign Policy dismissed this warning as "strange" and "far-fetched."

As we've said before, this is an extremely far-fetched scenario. And given how Russia has been able to unsettle Ukraine's pro-Western government without firing a shot, I don't see why violence would be necessary to bring Kiev to heel.
​

Yesterday, Russia invaded the Crimean peninsula of Ukraine and seized control of two airports.
Seems as though Palin's prediction wasn't too far-fetched after all.


http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2014/03/01/sarah-palin-warned-in-2008-russia-might-invade-ukraine-if-obama-wins-election-n1802374

you posted a political message.
the message appeared to be only marginally about palin.

her lie was that russia invaded georgia.
russia did not invade georgia.
did you check the facts yet?

Ever hear of the Russo-Georgian war?
I guess you don't know how to use your own tv responsibly.

you appear to believe that lie as well.

now the lie is that russia has invaded crimea, presumably to take them over against their will. i suppose you believe that lie as well.
if you would like help concerning the truth of either political matter, try "news" sources other than those which proudly feature commentators like ann coulter.

or just listen to the people who live there, 96% of whom said they want to be part of russia.

[video=youtube;LfinisEh-IM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfinisEh-IM#aid=P-qADWHrUpo[/video]

but palin and her friends at washington say democracy isn't legitimate when it doesn't produce the results they want.


SEVASTOPOL, Ukraine — Crimea’s parliament on Monday voted to break away from Ukraine and join the Russian Federation, a day after a huge majority of the peninsula’s voters chose that option in a referendum that was condemned as a sham in Washington and across Europe.


The United States and European nations promptly slapped financial sanctions and a travel ban on Russian and Ukrainian authorities responsible for a Russian push into Crimea and support for the referendum. The current Ukraine government said it was call up military reservists and planning a splurge of defense spending to beef up its military in case of further Russian efforts to take territory.
Washington Post


so now it's putin's fault the people of crimea don't want to be brutalized by nazis in ukraine, but choose to belong to russia.

typically, anyone who supported a public referendum will be slapped with sanctions by the "democratic" west.


Crimean election spokesman Mikhail Malyshev said Monday that 83.1 percent of the eligible population voted Sunday and that the final result was 96.77 percent in favor of joining Russia and 2.51 percent against.




The Obama administration has vehemently denied charges that Ukraine's nascent regime is stock full of neo-fascists despite clear evidence suggesting otherwise. Such categorical repudiations lend credence to the notion the U.S. facilitated the anti-Russian cabal's rise to power as part of a broader strategy to draw Ukraine into the West's sphere of influence. Even more disturbing are apologists, from the American left and right, who seem willing accomplices in this obfuscation of reality, when just a cursory glance at the profiles of Ukraine's new leaders should give pause to the most zealous of Russophobes.

The Neo-Nazi Question in Ukraine

 

[PeterPolitik]

and here are our great freedom loving leaders meeting with the nazis.


MARCH 14
Oleh Tiahnybok met with US Senators
On 14 March, the leader of Svoboda Oleh Tiahnybok met with US Senators, namely: John McCain, Richard Durbin, John Barrasso, John Hoeven, Ron Johnson, Christopher Murphy, Jeff Flake and Sheldon Whitehouse. During the meeting, the parties discussed the current political situation in Ukraine.


is Svoboda a good ally?

 

[Elizabeth619]

*pops popcorn*

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

you posted a political message.
the message appeared to be only marginally about palin.

her lie was that russia invaded georgia.
russia did not invade georgia.
did you check the facts yet?



you appear to believe that lie as well.

now the lie is that russia has invaded crimea, presumably to take them over against their will. i suppose you believe that lie as well.
if you would like help concerning the truth of either political matter, try "news" sources other than those which proudly feature commentators like ann coulter.

or just listen to the people who live there, 96% of whom said they want to be part of russia.

[video=youtube;LfinisEh-IM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfinisEh-IM#aid=P-qADWHrUpo[/video]

but palin and her friends at washington say democracy isn't legitimate when it doesn't produce the results they want.


SEVASTOPOL, Ukraine — Crimea’s parliament on Monday voted to break away from Ukraine and join the Russian Federation, a day after a huge majority of the peninsula’s voters chose that option in a referendum that was condemned as a sham in Washington and across Europe.


The United States and European nations promptly slapped financial sanctions and a travel ban on Russian and Ukrainian authorities responsible for a Russian push into Crimea and support for the referendum. The current Ukraine government said it was call up military reservists and planning a splurge of defense spending to beef up its military in case of further Russian efforts to take territory.
Washington Post


so now it's putin's fault the people of crimea don't want to be brutalized by nazis in ukraine, but choose to belong to russia.

typically, anyone who supported a public referendum will be slapped with sanctions by the "democratic" west.


Crimean election spokesman Mikhail Malyshev said Monday that 83.1 percent of the eligible population voted Sunday and that the final result was 96.77 percent in favor of joining Russia and 2.51 percent against.




The Obama administration has vehemently denied charges that Ukraine's nascent regime is stock full of neo-fascists despite clear evidence suggesting otherwise. Such categorical repudiations lend credence to the notion the U.S. facilitated the anti-Russian cabal's rise to power as part of a broader strategy to draw Ukraine into the West's sphere of influence. Even more disturbing are apologists, from the American left and right, who seem willing accomplices in this obfuscation of reality, when just a cursory glance at the profiles of Ukraine's new leaders should give pause to the most zealous of Russophobes.

The Neo-Nazi Question in Ukraine

russia certainly -did- invade georgia...russian troops occupied the cities of gori and poti...both located in georgia... either russia invaded georgia...or several thousand russian troops just decided to go on vacation in georgia and bring their guns and tanks with them...

and russia has also invaded crimea...russia sent their troops outside of the naval base they maintain in crimea by agreement with the ukrainian government... under the treaty russia is not supposed to have troops in crimea outside of that naval base...but currently there are russian troops all over crimea where they are not supposed to be...that is an invasion...

you can talk about the so called 'referendum' result...but that referendum took place at a time when russian troops and violent pro russian miltias were occupying crimea...and there was no attempt to hold anything resembling a free and fair election...voting locations even had posters showing how you were supposed to vote... so this 'referendum' has about as much credibility as elections in north korea...

the claim that ukraine's new government has fascist leanings is both exaggerated and hypocritical... you would think ukraine's jews would be the first to sound warnings against a neo nazi regime...but instead ukraine's jewish leaders are siding with the new government...and denying that their synagogues have been attacked by activists...in fact their main worry has been anti semitic violence staged by the pro russian elements... it is also worth pointing out that the new government has the support of a majority in ukraine's parliament...including many members of the party that controlled the previous government which russia supported without expressing any concerns about anti semitism...

instead the real facists are the pro russian militants in crimea and parts of eastern ukraine...in one crimean city the russian occupiers let people get away with painting 'death to the jews' on a synagogue...in a city in eastern ukraine a russian flag was put on top of a government building by a visitor from moscow dressed in a nazi uniform...a group of pro russian activists told reporters from BBC to 'go back to the jews who sent you here'...a website for recruiting people to join a pro russian crimean militia displays statements referring to 'the jewish oligarchical lobby'...also the 'international observers' allowed to observe the crimean referendum were primarily from european far right factions including neo nazi parties... one ukrainian jewish leader stated that there was no anti semitic violence in ukraine until russia invaded crimea...

in russia itself one of the most influential political figures is a neo fascist named aleksandr dugin...he is close to putin and it is noteworthy that putin's actions so far have almost exactly matched up with dugin's positions... one jewish organization wrote an open letter to putin saying that neo nazis are encouraged in russia and that there is much more anti semitism in russia than there is today in ukraine...