Stephen Hawking has died.

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Didymous

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I totally agree. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think some people speculate Hawking's salvation so they can get a "gotcha!" dig at him for being atheist most of his life and using science as an explanation for why he doesn't believe in a God. That isn't love though. I can guarantee you God doesn't passive aggressively rejoice when one of His children is lost.
Yes, Adolph, I still indulge in those gotcha moments, but strive to do differently. Praise GOD the Father we are forgiven, and growing up beyond such behavior-in the precious name of our Lord Jesus, Amen!
 
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MIC. 6:15.
Thou shalt sow, but thou shalt not reap; thou shalt tread the olives, but thou shalt not anoint thee with oil;
and sweet wine, but shalt not drink wine.
 

jsr1221

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And he was an jew hater...
Paul was the modern day Isis back then. He persecuted Christians before becoming one himself. God worked through Paul. He was willing to with Hawking if only Hawking allowed Him in his heart. Did he? None of us will know until we pass on from this life.
 

17Bees

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Can you define it? I don't find the word in the bible, but I know Tri meams three.
I mean the Bible is so clear on the Nature of God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit...... why is it necessary to contrive things to ensure Christianity is seen as monotheistic?

AHA! You KNOW the "trinity" is a contrived word. Not because it doesn't ring true, but rather because it's NOT ENOUGH. The
'trinity' is hard to explain because God IS what He IS. His very name Jehovah means I am that I am. And you saw it! And questioned it! Because it just isn't enough. It's lacking. It's a false bottom.

This is as close as I've ever seen or heard to explain this... this "trinity". This inadequate ... incomplete, impaired expression. It doesn't say Who. God. Is.

https://youtu.be/NscHCa395-M
 

p_rehbein

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John 17:3 - And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.
Didn't know if you knew about Stephen's passing.......you being on your 13th vacation this YEAR and all........
 

p_rehbein

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I would agree it's "nice" to hope Hawking accepted Christ as his Saviour right before his death, but more importantly, it's ENTIRELY possible too. Maybe believing God can do the impossible is "naive" to you... I'm sure Hawking thought the same thing... in that sense, you and he appear to see common ground. Sure, possible does not equate to probable, but the simple fact remains, no one knows if Hawking accepted Christ right before his death; no one can doom or cast him to Hell but God.
OR.......it could be that believing what Christ said about our being able to DISCERN the spirits.....which are of God, and which are not..............by believing in Christ and His word....I can pretty well figure that Stephen's in deeeeeep dodo right about now.

It's kinda funny how believers will not hesitate to say when another believer passes........that they "are home with the Lord now."

But, can't seem to bring themselves to use the same logic/reasoning that determined that statement to an unbeliever like Stephen by saying..... "dat boyz gotta be HOT 'bout now!"
 
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InHisLove

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The problem is that the words used: Gehenna, Hades and Sheol dont mean Hell. They mean grave. Not so sure that Hel is compatible with a loving God.
the Lord revealed to me that...
"He doesn't will to reserve anyone, He reserves them because of their will"

They chose to love the lie...
Romans 1:25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. NASB
2 Thessalonians 2:10 ...They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness. NIV

Jesus spoke of the gnashing of teeth, I don't recall anywhere in heaven that that is spoken of...
Matthew 13:41 The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness, 42 and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. NASB

Eternal suffering, torment described...
Matthew 25:31-46
When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left. Then the King will say to those on his right, “Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.” . . . Then he will say to those on his left, “Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. . . . And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” ESV
Mark 9:48 where THEIR WORM DOES NOT DIE, AND THE FIRE IS NOT QUENCHED. NASB

He desires that no man perish...
Ezekiel 33:11 Say to them, ‘As I live!’ declares the Lord God, ‘I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked... NASB
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance. NASB

Also, He weeps over every soul lost. The true nature of God we who are His should share...
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. KJV

Amen.
 

notuptome

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The Anglican church is going to inurn his ashes next to Newton and Darwin. Oh the possibilities.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Newton has a rather nice low-key memorial outside his old rooms at Trinity College here in Cambridge. A simple apple tree on the green. Unlike Hawking Newton believed in God most of his life. I do hope he made it to heaven.
 

Bladerunner

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Newton has a rather nice low-key memorial outside his old rooms at Trinity College here in Cambridge. A simple apple tree on the green. Unlike Hawking Newton believed in God most of his life. I do hope he made it to heaven.
He may have become a traitor to those of who followed him at the last moment and called upon Jesus' name. We can only hope for He was lost with not doubt.
 
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yes Blade,

he was definitely 'lost' in this life-time': in my opinion, a total 'lost soul' - But, he will
get a first-chance to know and love our Holy Saviour in the 'second resurrection,,.