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One other thing: the theology that if you dont know Jesus/believe in Jesus you go to hell means that chidren born into the "wrong" religion, and who believe that their parents teach them about their God ... willl go to eternal torment for that? Utter nonsense. God is not a chrisian, or a Jew or Muslim. There is one God and many paths.
It is our actions, not our "right" belief system.
What God would create anyone knowing in advance (since god knows everything) that they would burn in eternal hellfire. If I believed that, I would never have children because they might go there.
It is our actions, not our "right" belief system.
What God would create anyone knowing in advance (since god knows everything) that they would burn in eternal hellfire. If I believed that, I would never have children because they might go there.
K
Not sure where you get your theology but you're a long way off in your opinions according to the Bible.Children that die go to heaven.They are not yet at the age of understanding and accountability.So thats a moot point.
Secondly,the Bible states there is only One Way and that is through Christ alone,which is what the Christian faith teaches. There are not many paths there is one and one only. God created heaven for us all to go there,but man was disobedient so He made a way through Christ. None of us have to end up in hell,we do have a choice. God is a completely just God,He made a way,all we have to do is accept Him.
Hello LaurieB,
The above theology is Scriptural, yet none know/believe in Jesus due to their place of birth or what religion they are born into or not born into. In other words, none are saved due to their circumstances nor are others lost due to their circumstances, note Ephesians 2:3.
All are sinners and born in sin. As for babies, God is just. But what about you? You're sinner and under eternal condemnation unless God has mercy on you and saves you from your sin. You'll have no bone to pick when you stand before God about your thoughts on his ways, babies, others.
There is only one way to God and that is through his Son. His way is exclusive, he is God. This (your above) is one reason the carnal mind is at enmity with God and is hostile toward him.
The above theology is Scriptural, yet none know/believe in Jesus due to their place of birth or what religion they are born into or not born into. In other words, none are saved due to their circumstances nor are others lost due to their circumstances, note Ephesians 2:3.
All are sinners and born in sin. As for babies, God is just. But what about you? You're sinner and under eternal condemnation unless God has mercy on you and saves you from your sin. You'll have no bone to pick when you stand before God about your thoughts on his ways, babies, others.
There is only one way to God and that is through his Son. His way is exclusive, he is God. This (your above) is one reason the carnal mind is at enmity with God and is hostile toward him.
I meant that children born into the "wrong religion" ... who then grow up ... believing what they were taught to believe. Where I got it from ...? People who have studied Scripture ... theologians who have studied what the bible says and it does not say Hell. If all of these theologians are wrong, then I am wrong as well.
that means that you are right ... of course ... I understand that ... there is no room for anything other than a literal reading of the Bible which is of course inerrant and infallible and never has changed ... despite all the rewrites, changes, mistakes, errors, and obvious plagarism.
But yes, be right. To be right would send all non christians, approimately 6.5 billion (if you include Catholis) .. to Hell ... and oout of the 1 billliion left how many are saved.
No, makes no sense at all. But you are right.
that means that you are right ... of course ... I understand that ... there is no room for anything other than a literal reading of the Bible which is of course inerrant and infallible and never has changed ... despite all the rewrites, changes, mistakes, errors, and obvious plagarism.
But yes, be right. To be right would send all non christians, approimately 6.5 billion (if you include Catholis) .. to Hell ... and oout of the 1 billliion left how many are saved.
No, makes no sense at all. But you are right.
Here is what the late, great Billy Graham said ten years ago about who will be Saved. Now this comes from a very conservative Evangelical ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL0tLzzn7PA&feature=share/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL0tLzzn7PA&feature=share/
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No,I am not right,the Bible is right. Theologians who go against His Word are not right.No one sends anyone to hell,not even God.We choose that path,we are to blame.We cannot accuse God. We have a chose and we are without excuse according to the Word. So yes,the Bible is right,it is infallible and has never changed. And if that is not true then neither you or I can believe in heaven and have a hope in life,God may change His mind,even though the Bible says He does not. But how can we trust a thing God said or any of His promises if the Bible is full of holes? Why would yo believe in a God you can't trust?
Who will you believe? Rev Graham or Jesus?
Rev Graham is not a conservative evangelical. He is or was an ecumenical evangelical. Perhaps his love for people and his desire to see them saved overrode his knowledge that only those who trust Jesus Christ as their personal Savior will be saved. It is a hard thing to see men foolishly depart into eternal condemnation when Christ will gladly receive them if they will only heed His call.
No matter how noble our intent we cannot change what the word of God declares regarding mans need to be saved.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Rev Graham is not a conservative evangelical. He is or was an ecumenical evangelical. Perhaps his love for people and his desire to see them saved overrode his knowledge that only those who trust Jesus Christ as their personal Savior will be saved. It is a hard thing to see men foolishly depart into eternal condemnation when Christ will gladly receive them if they will only heed His call.
No matter how noble our intent we cannot change what the word of God declares regarding mans need to be saved.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
K
Im well aware of who Graham was. I believe what he is saying here has been mistaken by many people. I can't speak for the man but I do not believe he was saying there are many paths to God and you can be of any religion and be saved. He was talking about the Holy Spirit drawing people to Christ and because they don't yet know His name does not mean the Spirit cannot draw them.There are Muslims that are having dreams about Jesus and are becoming saved. I do not believe Graham was saying any and every religion can get you to heaven. That being said,if that is what he was saying,he too would be wrong.The Bible says there is one way,one Name. Period.
K
Well Im not sure I want to disagree with you,are you armed right now 
I do believe there is an age of understanding. A child cannot possibly be held accountable for sin because they cannot understand the complexity of their situation and their need of a Savior. And we know that sins of the parents are not passed to the children. So from what I see in the Word children are not held accountable until a certain age of understanding.
I do believe there is an age of understanding. A child cannot possibly be held accountable for sin because they cannot understand the complexity of their situation and their need of a Savior. And we know that sins of the parents are not passed to the children. So from what I see in the Word children are not held accountable until a certain age of understanding.
Is Billy Graham wrong when he says ... people who do not know christ can go to heaven also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL0tLzzn7PA&feature=share/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL0tLzzn7PA&feature=share/