The duel of the people and the masks.

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ZNP

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I believe no one truly knows the right way to go with this virus. You have doctors against and for the vaccine. You have deaths and complications with the vaccine as well. Really nobody knows as everyone responds differently to the virus or the vaccine. I'm just curious why are they not spending lots of money on covid treatment and not just the vaccine.
The debate is far more nuanced than "doctors against it". I have heard the doctors who are "against it" and that is not what they say.

What they do say is

1. You don't mandate an experimental vaccine.

2. All vaccines have risks and are never a "one size fits all"

3. The overriding principle is to "do no harm", with that in mind does the person actually need a vaccine? If their risk from dying is infinitesimal and there are effective treatments why take the risk inherent in a vaccine?

4. The tests for the virus are spitting out too many false positives and are being misused. You should only be testing people with symptoms.

5. Since risks to kids are so tiny they should not close the schools, closing the schools is a much bigger health risk to the kids than Covid.

6. The data on the adverse effects from the vaccine are being scrubbed and they are rejecting reports given by doctors in the field. We can't accurately assess the risks without full transparency.

7. Anecdotal evidence from the doctors in the field indicates the vaccine is much more risky than other vaccines which were rejected for being too risky.

8. Autopsies of people who have been vaccinated are cause to be alarmed and should immediately put a halt to the rollout.
 
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You are spot on correct... Why hasn't the research and effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin by credible PHD Dr's been made more transparent and available to all... see sample research articles and links below...
I suspect that your spidey sense has a good pulse of the bigger picture and agenda; while you very carefully and cleverly pose these discussion topics and lines of inquiry to not come across the wrong way nor to offend anyone who remains blinded by those who are controlling the global narrative on these topics thru MSM and the internet...

The Google search engines and algorithms have been compromised as a means to control their narrative... Hmmm, in what Civilized and Free living society is this acceptable...

Many Christian Conservatives have found that DuckDuckGo.com provides an alternative UNFILTERED and UNCOMPROMISED search engine...
https://duckduckgo.com/?va=b&t=hc&natb=v286-5bc&cp=atbhc

Proof Fauci Knew in 2005 that Hydroxychloroquine Effectively Treats Coronavirus

Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines
Conclusions:
Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.
Worth repeating x100

How soon before all Factual Info is Banned and to even post it brings Arrest and Incarceration?
 

Solemateleft

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Is this a serious question? The purpose of this whole scamdemic was to administer the poison to the whole human race.

"The worldwide rollout of mRNA “vaccines” is part of a much larger agenda that encompasses eugenics and transhumanism. This agenda is being funded and promoted by a network of global institutions, politicians, and billionaire technocrats. " David Icke, 2021.

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You got that right... I'm on board (check out my posts over the past two years)... Evidently there are lots of people that are still BLIND to this fact... ;) hmm, did you read my entire response....
 
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You got that right... I'm on board (check out my posts over the past two years)... Evidently there are lots of people that are still BLIND to this fact... ;) hmm, did you read my entire response....
Two years? I've only been here for two weeks. I can't imagine posting here for two years. I don't think there are many actual born-again believers here.
 

Magenta

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Is this a serious question? The purpose of this whole scamdemic was to administer the poison to the whole human race.

"The worldwide rollout of mRNA “vaccines” is part of a much larger agenda that encompasses eugenics and transhumanism. This agenda is being funded and promoted by a network of global institutions, politicians, and billionaire technocrats. " David Icke, 2021.

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David Icke? Oh my goodness. Lizard people are preparing to take over the world according to him. (<= link :))

 

tourist

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Two years? I've only been here for two weeks. I can't imagine posting here for two years. I don't think there are many actual born-again believers here.
Posting over 7 years here @ 35,000+ posts. Actually, there are quite a few born-again believers here.
 

tourist

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You got that right... I'm on board (check out my posts over the past two years)... Evidently there are lots of people that are still BLIND to this fact... ;) hmm, did you read my entire response....
I have been checking out your thoughtful and insightful posts over the past two years. :)
 

Solemateleft

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I have been checking out your thoughtful and insightful posts over the past two years. :)
Thanks brother and I have been following yours even longer :)...
Interesting how even the CC moderator has decided to lock down those two big threads on the biggest topic of Corruption and Conspiracy that connected all these dots...
 
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Welcome to the jungle... :LOL::ROFL:(y);)
Haha... thanks. I'm not sure I want to be in the jungle. There is a lot of obsessing over the world in here.. and a lot of people obsessing over their own lives. The "believers" who are so concerned about their own death from "covid" really confuses me. Being absent from the body is being present with the Lord. The sooner the better!

This world is not my home. So many people here and already home, apparently.
 
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Thanks brother and I have been following yours even longer :)...
Interesting how even the CC moderator has decided to lock down those two big threads on the biggest topic of Corruption and Conspiracy that connected all these dots...
Moderators are only human, so assuming if they have personal feelings about something....
 

Solemateleft

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Haha... thanks. I'm not sure I want to be in the jungle. There is a lot of obsessing over the world in here.. and a lot of people obsessing over their own lives. The "believers" who are so concerned about their own death from "covid" really confuses me. Being absent from the body is being present with the Lord. The sooner the better!

This world is not my home. So many people here and already home, apparently.
Very profound and deep observations... Agree...

Unfortunately, we are experiencing the heightening of a Spiritual Warfare that has manifested into the realities of our world via Irregular and Information Warfare... As you rightly deduced in your original response (to me) there have been blatant deceit within our MSM/SM - that so many just haven't had the time, inclination or intuition to bother seeking alternative perspectives or to simply strive to validate the information (mis-information/dis-information) for themselves...

I am reluctant to pass judgement upon anyone - given that the Enemy has sought out to deceive the vulnerable of mind, body and faith... I do have FAITH and TRUST that there is a STORM coming along with a Great Awakening that will afford all to finally FIND their way to genuinely BELIEVE in our Lord...

I don't want to derail this thread... so for more information along this line of discussion - checkout the most prominent thread that I have been posting to over this past year...