The hatred of Jews

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No, no, a better analogy would be the illegal Haitians and other illegals deported all legal Americans, and then started to claim that they were the true Americans all along, and the actual true Americans are just terrorists, and besides, God never gave them America in the first place - it was promised long ago to Haitians (who are really the true Americans). Then new anti-Americanism laws are introduced that make it illegal for anyone to criticise what the Haitians or illegals had done or were doing to the true Americans. Then a third party - let's say the Germans - come in and say they can help the few Americans that are left as they are being treated as terrorists, by taking control of America and building homes for real Americans in Mexico, but they would have to leave America, and wouldn't have any right to return (except by converting to the Satanic voodoo religion and claiming to be descended from Haitians).

Not according to history or the Bible. Wrong on all counts.
 

Smoke

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No one is "triggered" they are Arabs. There is no Palestinian people, it's a political ploy. They are Arabs from the surrounding countries.
You're clearly triggered when people refer to the "Arabs" of that particular ethnonational group as "Palestinians". Not all Arabs are Palestinians, but if it enables you to stay on point and discuss in good faith, then I'll call them "Palestinian Arabs" to distinguish them from Arabs of other areas (like we did prior to 1964). Would "Palestinian Arab" work for you or would it still be triggering?
 

Smoke

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@ThereRoseaLamb

I sincerely want to understand your positioning and know how you got there. If you don't mind answering a few questions so I can better understand:

1.) Do you agree that Britain and France promised the Arabs in what was called "Palestine", at the time, their own nation state in what we currently call "Israel" conditioned if they help fight with us during WWI?

2.) Do you agree they promised those Palestinian Arabs the land known as Palestine prior to the signing of the Balfour Declaration (1917)?

3.) Was the promise to the Palestinian Arabs ever fulfilled? Why or why not?

I have more questions, but I think it's important we at least are on the same page here before continuing.
 

PennEd

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Do you agree that Britain and France promised the Arabs in what was called "Palestine", at the time, their own nation state in what we currently call "Israel" conditioned if they help fight with us during WWI?
Yes. They got that promised nation.

It’s called Jordan. Quadruple the size of present day Israel.

Of course they wouldn’t accept the “Palestinians” Muslims that reside in Israel.
 

ZNP

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Heretics are those who reject the essential tenants of the Gospel unto Salvation and are therefore not born again.
No, not all heretics, only those with a damnable heresy. The definition of heresy is school of thought, every single believer, every denomination can be seen as a school of thought. Only those that reject the items of the faith are damnable heresies.
 

HeIsHere

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@ThereRoseaLamb

I sincerely want to understand your positioning and know how you got there. If you don't mind answering a few questions so I can better understand:

1.) Do you agree that Britain and France promised the Arabs in what was called "Palestine", at the time, their own nation state in what we currently call "Israel" conditioned if they help fight with us during WWI?

2.) Do you agree they promised those Palestinian Arabs the land known as Palestine prior to the signing of the Balfour Declaration (1917)?

3.) Was the promise to the Palestinian Arabs ever fulfilled? Why or why not?

I have more questions, but I think it's important we at least are on the same page here before continuing.
Correct, Britain made three promises in 1915, and only kept one according to the historical record.