The Shooting of Michael Brown
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That is what you may see, but what the attorney for the store owner said as to what happened was Brown purchased some cigars and wanted to purchase more but did not have enough money to get the rest.
Heated words for exchanged between Brown and the person working the register, which is why he came out and confronted Brown. Brown then grabbed and shoved him and walked out of the store.
They did not report a robbery, and a robbery did not happen.
This is what the attorney said by what he was told by the store manager.
Heated words for exchanged between Brown and the person working the register, which is why he came out and confronted Brown. Brown then grabbed and shoved him and walked out of the store.
They did not report a robbery, and a robbery did not happen.
This is what the attorney said by what he was told by the store manager.
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You always want to find excuses to denounce anything that does not fit how you want to see it.
You also use bias news reports, and media from well known corrupted media programs.
You can not accuse some one of using a false site, or media source when you get your information from the same sources.
How many times have I seen you post Fox, and youtube videos that fit your agenda. Bias and corrupted sources.
You also use bias news reports, and media from well known corrupted media programs.
You can not accuse some one of using a false site, or media source when you get your information from the same sources.
How many times have I seen you post Fox, and youtube videos that fit your agenda. Bias and corrupted sources.
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First you say someone drinks "turpentine" and now you call me an "oaf". Not a very adult way to respond to someone who disagrees with you. Try something more 'adult' the next time before "assuming" they drink "turpentine" or are an"oaf".
Something more on your level. Like this: "Sticks and stones may brake my bones but names will never hurt me."
Something more on your level. Like this: "Sticks and stones may brake my bones but names will never hurt me."
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It sounds to me like you're calling the kettle black when you post, "You also use bias news reports, and media from well known corrupted media programs." Now tell us unwashed people where you get your "sources" that are not "bias" or "corrupted" that are not from "well known corrupted media programs"?
We're waiting for you to enlighten us...
We're waiting for you to enlighten us...
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I never said my sources weren't bias.
If you go and read the post I gave with the link, I also said if you want to take it at face value.
Meaning I know to it may not be the truth, but I just post things to show there is two sides to the debate. Not all who are witnesses claim the same story that some want to quote as facts.
Kind of reminds me of how scientists think, who constantly want to quote theories as facts.
Everything that we are hearing right now are just theories, not facts.
The only facts we know for certain is;
Brown was shot by the cop
He was left laying in the road longer than he should have
First autopsy confirms shot 6 times
Everything else is up for speculation still.
If you go and read the post I gave with the link, I also said if you want to take it at face value.
Meaning I know to it may not be the truth, but I just post things to show there is two sides to the debate. Not all who are witnesses claim the same story that some want to quote as facts.
Kind of reminds me of how scientists think, who constantly want to quote theories as facts.
Everything that we are hearing right now are just theories, not facts.
The only facts we know for certain is;
Brown was shot by the cop
He was left laying in the road longer than he should have
First autopsy confirms shot 6 times
Everything else is up for speculation still.
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You do? I agree that you do Kenneth. What I do is examine the source and if it's garbage, like that one use used was, then I throw it away and go with the ones are not.
I use a lot of sources but what I don't do is go find some four year old personally owned .org website that a hippie put up with a rocketmail.com email address and that extreme leftist conspiracy theorists post on like you did. There's something called whois. It's free. Use it.
I posted a link to the police report in this thread which you can view here. Look on page 3 of 10 and you'll see the box checked that says 'suspect identified' along with the description of him wearing a red Cardinals baseball cap, khaki long shorts, white t-shirt, yellow socks, and flip-flop style shoes. Review the video. The identified suspect is Michael Brown.
Now skip down to page 6 of 10 and look at Brown named in the report as the identified robbery suspect and I quote (noting the police withheld the store employees name for his protection from the copy they distributed to the public after a large number of FOIA requests):
"That is when Brown reached across the counter and grabbed numerous packs of Swisher Sweets and turned to leave the store. <store employee> then calls "911." Meanwhile <store employee> comes out from behind the counter and attempts to stop Brown from leaving. According to <store employee> was trying to lock the door until Brown returned the merchandise to him. That is when Brown grabbed <store employee> by the shirt and forcefully pushed him back in to a display rack. <Store employee> backed away and Brown and Johnson existed the store with the cigars."
^ That is eyewitness testimony from a store employee on a legitimate police report. That is where I got my information from Kenneth; not some poorly formatted personally owned website with a broken 'About Us' link that some extreme left disinformation got posted on by an anti-conservative.
Fox News is a gold standard compared to what you used. If you have a problem with Fox News, look at what you chose to use and see you have NO room to complain about sources.
I use a lot of sources but what I don't do is go find some four year old personally owned .org website that a hippie put up with a rocketmail.com email address and that extreme leftist conspiracy theorists post on like you did. There's something called whois. It's free. Use it.
I posted a link to the police report in this thread which you can view here. Look on page 3 of 10 and you'll see the box checked that says 'suspect identified' along with the description of him wearing a red Cardinals baseball cap, khaki long shorts, white t-shirt, yellow socks, and flip-flop style shoes. Review the video. The identified suspect is Michael Brown.
Now skip down to page 6 of 10 and look at Brown named in the report as the identified robbery suspect and I quote (noting the police withheld the store employees name for his protection from the copy they distributed to the public after a large number of FOIA requests):
"That is when Brown reached across the counter and grabbed numerous packs of Swisher Sweets and turned to leave the store. <store employee> then calls "911." Meanwhile <store employee> comes out from behind the counter and attempts to stop Brown from leaving. According to <store employee> was trying to lock the door until Brown returned the merchandise to him. That is when Brown grabbed <store employee> by the shirt and forcefully pushed him back in to a display rack. <Store employee> backed away and Brown and Johnson existed the store with the cigars."
^ That is eyewitness testimony from a store employee on a legitimate police report. That is where I got my information from Kenneth; not some poorly formatted personally owned website with a broken 'About Us' link that some extreme left disinformation got posted on by an anti-conservative.
Fox News is a gold standard compared to what you used. If you have a problem with Fox News, look at what you chose to use and see you have NO room to complain about sources.
I've been following this story, and there are some news sources that are trying to aggravate the situation. Jane Velez Mitchell is campaigning for all police officers to have cams in their badges to record and keep accounts of all their encounters (I don't agree with that idea). I only have two basic things to say on this issue:
1. The focus in Ferguson, MO needs to be on the shooting and what happened. Racism needs to take third place (not even second), because if it is put first, all kinds of problems can come out of that.
2. The issue of racism needs to be broached in America. People have dodged and ducked it for a very long time. It needs to be talked about and does not need to be debated in the heat or event of some type of crime or racially-charged issue.
They should separate the shooting from racism so that each one can be addressed separately which would yield much better results, especially where racism is concerned, rather than lumping them together.
1. The focus in Ferguson, MO needs to be on the shooting and what happened. Racism needs to take third place (not even second), because if it is put first, all kinds of problems can come out of that.
2. The issue of racism needs to be broached in America. People have dodged and ducked it for a very long time. It needs to be talked about and does not need to be debated in the heat or event of some type of crime or racially-charged issue.
They should separate the shooting from racism so that each one can be addressed separately which would yield much better results, especially where racism is concerned, rather than lumping them together.
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I feel it's an apt description of the rioting and looting of innocent store owners and assaults on that have occurred on innocent people by that contingent of "liberal" protestors. IF only they were mentally disabled instead of ignorant deceived people engaging in criminal behavior. At least then, there would be some medical reason underpinning their criminal behavior and victimization of innocent people.
In my opinion, the fact that you express concern about someone's terminology in describing criminal rioting, looting, and assaulting of innocent people yet have expressed no concern to date for the victims of that criminal behavior is very inappropriate.
In my opinion, the fact that you express concern about someone's terminology in describing criminal rioting, looting, and assaulting of innocent people yet have expressed no concern to date for the victims of that criminal behavior is very inappropriate.
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It's being reported that he was taken to the hospital emergency room by the Assistant (Police) Chief.
Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source | Fox News
Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source | Fox News
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“'It’s easy for a black male to keep himself from being shot by a white cop,' the Wall Street Journal’s Jason Riley said on my radio show. 'It’s much harder to keep from getting shot by other black men.'
Riley’s point is that if you defer and don’t try to challenge a police officer he may insult you but he won’t kill you. In fact, an African-American is 60 times more likely to be killed by a fellow African American than he is by a white cop, and more whites than blacks are victims of deadly police shootings.
These tragic numbers make media obsession with Ferguson, Missouri even less defensible. Police risk their lives daily to try to stop black-on-black crime that afflicts every big city. When it comes to keeping black youths from violent death, police aren’t the problem – in fact, they’re a crucial part of any solution."
POLICE AREN’T THE PROBLEM; THEY’RE THE SOLUTION - The Michael Medved Show
Riley’s point is that if you defer and don’t try to challenge a police officer he may insult you but he won’t kill you. In fact, an African-American is 60 times more likely to be killed by a fellow African American than he is by a white cop, and more whites than blacks are victims of deadly police shootings.
These tragic numbers make media obsession with Ferguson, Missouri even less defensible. Police risk their lives daily to try to stop black-on-black crime that afflicts every big city. When it comes to keeping black youths from violent death, police aren’t the problem – in fact, they’re a crucial part of any solution."
POLICE AREN’T THE PROBLEM; THEY’RE THE SOLUTION - The Michael Medved Show
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Why did Officer Darren Wilson of the Ferguson, Missouri Police Department pump six rounds into the body and head of an unarmed black teenager? That's the question that most in the black community want answered. And, that's the question that only Darren Wilson can and should answer, in a court of law.
In a high profile case such as this, a trial is necessary in order to have an open display of all the facts.
Now, with that said, you must understand that Michael Brown was no Mickey Rooney. He stood 6' 4” tall and weighed in at 292 pounds – a man by any standard. And, he was angry - very angry. He had beaten the Officer senseless and tried to take his weapon.
Anyone who knows anything about firearms knows that in order to fire a hand held weapon with any accuracy you have to "squeeeeze" (pun intended) the trigger – not pull it. That can be time consuming.
Likewise, anyone who has ever received a blow to one eye knows that the other eye will become out of focus, causing a blurred vision.
Okay now, stay with me on this. A man the size of Michael Brown, armed or unarmed, charging at someone with the intent to do bodily harm is a clear and present danger to that person. Let's be realistic and not question that. I know that's hard for liberals to understand, but it's a fact.
No one knows the mindset of Darren Wilson at the time of the shooting, but a prudent man, in pain, with blurred vision and hell bent on protecting his own life would empty his weapon as best and as quickly as possible in an attempt to: (1) stop his would be assailant if he could and (2) have an empty weapon if he couldn't.
Because of a broken eye socket Darren Wilson may not have been able to hit Michael Brown exactly where he intended, but hitting him anywhere would be better than allowing Brown to get his hand on a loaded gun.
In a high profile case such as this, a trial is necessary in order to have an open display of all the facts.
Now, with that said, you must understand that Michael Brown was no Mickey Rooney. He stood 6' 4” tall and weighed in at 292 pounds – a man by any standard. And, he was angry - very angry. He had beaten the Officer senseless and tried to take his weapon.
Anyone who knows anything about firearms knows that in order to fire a hand held weapon with any accuracy you have to "squeeeeze" (pun intended) the trigger – not pull it. That can be time consuming.
Likewise, anyone who has ever received a blow to one eye knows that the other eye will become out of focus, causing a blurred vision.
Okay now, stay with me on this. A man the size of Michael Brown, armed or unarmed, charging at someone with the intent to do bodily harm is a clear and present danger to that person. Let's be realistic and not question that. I know that's hard for liberals to understand, but it's a fact.
No one knows the mindset of Darren Wilson at the time of the shooting, but a prudent man, in pain, with blurred vision and hell bent on protecting his own life would empty his weapon as best and as quickly as possible in an attempt to: (1) stop his would be assailant if he could and (2) have an empty weapon if he couldn't.
Because of a broken eye socket Darren Wilson may not have been able to hit Michael Brown exactly where he intended, but hitting him anywhere would be better than allowing Brown to get his hand on a loaded gun.
I read the entire page that followed this post. No one addressed it. Maybe because it has facts in it that do not fit into the bigoted ignorant hate filled ideology that is once again, slandering a police officer so they can push their idiocy and satanic principles.
It absolutely makes me sick. Look at the facts people and stop argueing. Brown was a thug and a criminal and reaped what he sowed. This cop seems to be a good one and the ONLY, and I mean ONLY thing the leftards ( never heard such an accurate word in all my life ) focus on........
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RACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Have you ever in your life seen such a display of outright bigotry??
I have never been a proponent of the imminent return of Christ because I thought humans, flawed as they are, would need to fall quite a way before apostasy came.
I may be wrong.
Anyone who suggests this was an act of racism, by anyone but Brown, is a wacked out nutjob and should be placed in the care of professionals.
I am dead serious.
It absolutely makes me sick. Look at the facts people and stop argueing. Brown was a thug and a criminal and reaped what he sowed. This cop seems to be a good one and the ONLY, and I mean ONLY thing the leftards ( never heard such an accurate word in all my life ) focus on........
WAS
THE
COP'S
RACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Have you ever in your life seen such a display of outright bigotry??
I have never been a proponent of the imminent return of Christ because I thought humans, flawed as they are, would need to fall quite a way before apostasy came.
I may be wrong.
Anyone who suggests this was an act of racism, by anyone but Brown, is a wacked out nutjob and should be placed in the care of professionals.
I am dead serious.
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