The Shooting of Michael Brown

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Atwood

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CNN reported that Brown family lawyer, Benjamin Crump, said that the person in the video appears to be Michael Brown and the two were seen by many witnesses carrying cigars afterwards.

I haven't seen a MSM outlet yet state Dorian Johnson recanted; however, that is being reported on non-MSM blogs, etc...
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Billyd

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Regardless of the outcome of the justice system, a young man is dead, and a police officer's life is in a shambles. This is the only fact that we know at this time.

The people who are stirring up the riots are interested in one thing. Personal gain. That is evident when we watch them loot stores and businesses. Get the crowd stirred up, and they'll keep the police busy while the rabble has a holiday in the stores. Things are tapering of as the store inventory decreases. Whenever the rabble leaves, the citizens of Ferguson will be left to clean up, pick up the pieces and move on, and worse, be stuck with the bill. I wonder who will be there to help them recover.
 
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all I know is that God did not want him to die.
That's hubris. You know more than what is? That Mr.Brown is dead? You know more than what God wills?

The young man died. How does something happen with God not wanting it to happen?

Your proclamation means that God was not in control of Mr.Brown's life.

If God didn't want Mr.Brown to die he would be alive.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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It won't be the "protestors" (e.g. the ones victimizing innocent people and their property). Their "work" will be done.


The people who are stirring up the riots are interested in one thing. Personal gain. That is evident when we watch them loot stores and businesses. Get the crowd stirred up, and they'll keep the police busy while the rabble has a holiday in the stores. Things are tapering of as the store inventory decreases. Whenever the rabble leaves, the citizens of Ferguson will be left to clean up, pick up the pieces and move on, and worse, be stuck with the bill. I wonder who will be there to help them recover.
 
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Could have? Does that mean he doesn't know? Who gets the benefit of the doubt in a criminal investigation? Who is innocent until proven guilty?
No, the doctor doesn't know. It's evidently not possible to know why the arm was in a position to be struck by the bullet that did impact the tissue.

Six shots are excessive considering police are told to aim center mass when discharging a firearm so as to stop an assailant. This young man retained 4 wounds to the body and two bullet wounds to the head.
What I saw was 4 wounds to an arm (which would not stop someone), a 5th wound to the top of the head, which may have not stopped someone as near the scalp, and a 6th shot at or above the eye. That appears to me to have been the stopper bullet.

This LINK includes a video where Dr.Badden and another man are explaining the wounds to Mr.Brown.

Those four wounds on the inner aspect of the right arm could very well have impacted him when he had that arm in the air. Because if he'd have had his arms down there would be abrassions to the clothing he was wearing as the bullets passed between his arm and his torso.
But his arms up in the air would very well have received bullets flying in the direction of his head. Especially when there's a bullet wound at the top of his skull/head, and ultimately one in his right eye.


Who said that besides the one companion (probably accessory in the robber)? And hasn't that companion now admitted that he lied?
That alleged companion isn't credible because he has lied. He allegedly witnessed his friend being shot to death by a cop? And he lies first off when questioned? How are we suppose to believe him now that the shock has worn off and he's changing his story so as to make it appear as if his friend was in the wrong and the cop was justified in killing him?

Especially if that so called witness is facing prosecution for his part in a robbery. If that is the case.
He could have struck a deal so as to make up this new story and make it appear as if the cop was justified in the killing so that a living black young man's new testimony calms the unrest in the black community.
But there's just one huge problem with that testimony he's now providing. There's still no weapon in evidence. Michael Brown remains unarmed.

Who cares if he was coming at the cop? A cop armed with a drawn 9mm. and mace or a taser on his belt won't be bested by an unarmed young man. Especially when he pumps 6 bullets into him. One in the eye? That's one heck of a shot.
 
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The autopsy released on Monday demonstrated that Brown was not in fact shot in the back. He had no wounds to the back whatsoever, despite Brown family attorney Daryl Parks allegedly lying in his press conference that it was “clear” that “the direction of the bullet was in a back-to-front direction."

And Dorian Johnson's initial testimony was full of holes. No kidding he lied. Since then, dozens of witnesses have reportedly told another story, according to Christine Byers of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch: they say that Brown attacked Wilson through the window of his car, punched him, attempted to reach for Wilson’s gun, then ran. When Wilson shouted at them to freeze, Brown turned around and charged Wilson, prompting the shooting.

But to answer your uber-ignorant question: us law abiding citizens care if strong arm robber and aspiring gangster rapper 6' something 280 lb "Big" Mike rushed and assaulted the police officer who was doing his job.

Obviously, a reasonably safe society cannot be appropriated if criminals can commit crimes and attack people including police officers.

Your story fell apart. "Big" Mike was not a child. He was a full grown adult male and it's reasonable for a police officer to use a firearm to defend himself against a full grown adult male when violently attacked, whether or not, the assailant is armed or unarmed.


That alleged companion isn't credible because he has lied... Who cares if he was coming at the cop? A cop armed with a drawn 9mm. and mace or a taser on his belt won't be bested by an unarmed young man. Especially when he pumps 6 bullets into him. One in the eye? That's one heck of a shot.
 
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Uber ignorant question? You're no longer worth reading.
You support a cop murdering an unarmed 18 year old boy? Six shots when a kid is running toward the cop? This proves the cop failed at qualifying on the gun range.

Whatever you do, when you become an adult, don't apply to the police academy. Please! For the sake of our children, black children in particular, don't do it.




The autopsy released on Monday demonstrated that Brown was not in fact shot in the back. He had no wounds to the back whatsoever, despite Brown family attorney Daryl Parks allegedly lying in his press conference that it was “clear” that “the direction of the bullet was in a back-to-front direction."

And Dorian Johnson's initial testimony was full of holes. No kidding he lied. Since then, dozens of witnesses have reportedly told another story, according to Christine Byers of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch: they say that Brown attacked Wilson through the window of his car, punched him, attempted to reach for Wilson’s gun, then ran. When Wilson shouted at them to freeze, Brown turned around and charged Wilson, prompting the shooting.

But to answer your uber-ignorant question: us law abiding citizens care if strong arm robber and aspiring gangster rapper 6' something 280 lb "Big" Mike rushed and assaulted the police officer who was doing his job.

Obviously, a reasonably safe society cannot be appropriated if criminals can commit crimes and attack people including police officers.

Your story fell apart. "Big" Mike was not a child. He was a full grown adult male and it's reasonable for a police officer to use a firearm to defend himself against a full grown adult male when violently attacked, whether or not, the assailant is armed or unarmed.
 
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I think AgeofKnowledge is drinking turpentine again.
Careful AntonHolden. Thankfully your addiction to Al and Jesse on CNN, MSNBC, CBS and ABC can be treated. But be cautious. Watching them can cause you to have more 'senior moments'. They also can turn you into a first rate second rate man.
 
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Careful AntonHolden. Thankfully your addiction to Al and Jesse on CNN, MSNBC, CBS and ABC can be treated. But be cautious. Watching them can cause you to have more 'senior moments'. They also can turn you into a first rate second rate man.
I don't go to those places for my news you over-assuming oaf.
 
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jjtj22

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Uber ignorant question? You're no longer worth reading.
You support a cop murdering an unarmed 18 year old boy? Six shots when a kid is running toward the cop? This proves the cop failed at qualifying on the gun range.


Whatever you do, when you become an adult, don't apply to the police academy. Please! For the sake of our children, black children in particular, don't do it.
I think AgeofKnowledge is drinking turpentine again.
Is it really so hard to admit you were wrong about your initial assessment of the shooting? With all the evidence being brought to light wouldn't it be wise to admit you judged hastily or are you just determined that your first reaction will be the right one no matter the evidence?
 
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Is it really so hard to admit you were wrong about your initial assessment of the shooting? With all the evidence being brought to light wouldn't it be wise to admit you judged hastily or are you just determined that your first reaction will be the right one no matter the evidence?
How would you know my initial assessment if I never posted my personal thoughts on it other than jokingly insist that one of our boarders was drinking turpentine? Is it common practice of the people on this board to just assume and make things up as they go along?

Because that's a lot of what I've been seeing here.
 
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jjtj22

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How would you know my initial assessment if I never posted my personal thoughts on it other than jokingly insist that one of our boarders was drinking turpentine? Is it common practice of the people on this board to just assume and make things up as they go along?

Because that's a lot of what I've been seeing here.
Then why don't you discuss your opinion rather than insult another poster? Even in your last post you could clarify your position but you accuse me of making things up.....oh I get it, you are a troll
 
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This is a typical attitude in know it alls. Not perfect people do not always strong arm a store clerk for a handful of cigars. The police officer may not have known he robbed the store clerk but young mr brown did.

A duly authorized officer of the law has a duty to protect the citizens of the town. It is not evil for evil when a police officer acts within his authority. Now leave it to the legal system to determine if he was acting within protocol or not. The governor is calling for prosecution and the protestors are calling for prosecution but that will only create a bias against the officer. How can the officer get a fair hearing in that environment?

A tragic situation compounded by stupidity and politics. Two wrongs do not make a right.

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Again nothing has been released stating Brown was the one who robbed the store. Stop pinning it on him tell you know the true evidence.

Browns friend admitted to being at the store, but that Brown was not. His account is that he met up with Brown after words.

Next you mentioned, a police officer has the right to protect citizens. Brown and his friend were not hurting nobody walking down the street, they were just holding up traffic as the officer put it by walking down the middle of the road.

The officer stated he then started to take off, and he heard them mouth something so he backed up and asked them what they said, or by the other witness account said what the F... did you say. The story really gets confused from here as there is two sides two what happen.

Half say the officer started the struggle, the other half of witness say Brown did. We do not know the truth tell evidence is finally released.

Your right, two wrongs don't make a right, but saying some one committed a crime when evidence has not come out to prove he was the one who committed the crime is wrong to.

If it comes out that Brown was not the one in the robbery video, then you just bared false witness against Brown by believing he is the one. Wait for true evidence to come out before making a judgment call on somebody.
 
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Yes, it was uber-ignorant. He was a full grown 6 foot something 280 lb adult male. He wasn't a boy.

When I was 18 years old, instead of playing thug Tupac, I graduated from high school and walked down to the recruiters and signed on the dotted line, finished boot camp, and was in the middle of the Pacific Ocean on amphibious military transport ships involved in serious military exercises ALL BEFORE my 19th birthday.

And so were a LARGE number of other 18 year old MEN just like me of all races. I served with PLENTY of black 18 year old MEN.

And guess what else, a fair share of us came from broken families in poor urban areas. I did. I lived on a couch in a one bedroom flat in an area patrolled every night by a violent street gang.

So take your fairytale over to leftard land as that's the only place you'll find anyone ignorant or stupid enough to cosign that nonsense.

"Big" Mike, should have finished school and got himself a job instead of committing robberies and attacking police officers for a "living."


Uber ignorant question? You're no longer worth reading.
You support a cop murdering an unarmed 18 year old boy? Six shots when a kid is running toward the cop? This proves the cop failed at qualifying on the gun range.

Whatever you do, when you become an adult, don't apply to the police academy. Please! For the sake of our children, black children in particular, don't do it.
 
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jjtj22

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Again nothing has been released stating Brown was the one who robbed the store. Stop pinning it on him tell you know the true evidence.

Browns friend admitted to being at the store, but that Brown was not. His account is that he met up with Brown after words.

Next you mentioned, a police officer has the right to protect citizens. Brown and his friend were not hurting nobody walking down the street, they were just holding up traffic as the officer put it by walking down the middle of the road.

The officer stated he then started to take off, and he heard them mouth something so he backed up and asked them what they said, or by the other witness account said what the F... did you say. The story really gets confused from here as there is two sides two what happen.

Half say the officer started the struggle, the other half of witness say Brown did. We do not know the truth tell evidence is finally released.

Your right, two wrongs don't make a right, but saying some one committed a crime when evidence has not come out to prove he was the one who committed the crime is wrong to.

If it comes out that Brown was not the one in the robbery video, then you just bared false witness against Brown by believing he is the one. Wait for true evidence to come out before making a judgment call on somebody.
Please refer to post #272. Smh.
 
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Then why don't you discuss your opinion rather than insult another poster? Even in your last post you could clarify your position but you accuse me of making things up.....oh I get it, you are a troll
But you did make things up. You asked "is it really so hard to admit you were wrong." But anyway, here's my opinion.

We don't know exactly what happened between Brown and Wilson outside of the cop's testimony and eyewitness accounts, both of which conflict. What we do know, however, is that police are more crooked than the general public gives them credit for, and also that fellow cops aren't going to sell out one of their brethren. For all we know, Wilson overused force and is trying to cover his, which is what I think happened. And all this bullcrap surrounding the convenience store video is irrelevant. It's already been concluded that the two are separate incidents, and Wilson had no idea of the convenience store thing.

The rioting and looting was only committed by a small percentage of those protesting, and lots of those breaking things and showing their were out-of-towners looking to take advantage of the disarray.

The Ferguson police and the St. Louis county sheriffs completely mishandled the situation by implementing militarized police with MRAPs, assault rifles, tear gas, etc. The tactic only took a population that already felt mistreated and degraded and increased those feelings and tensions. In short, the police are at fault for a lot of the fear and tensions in Ferguson these last two weeks.
 
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