The Shortage, Are You Preparing?

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Gojira

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I'm not sure if this is what your meaning but in the video you gave it is dated "March 31,2009"(12 years ago)
The video then was from 911TruthVideos. If you click the "show more" tab it states that the Gov. purchased some of these from the company for US veterans Administration for years prior to the video,(veterans get them free if needed).

The internet had reworked the story of the burial vaults for years prior to the video you gave, it seems every time there's an opportunity "the coffins" are reworked into it. First it was Y2K,then 911, then 2012/Mayan and so now even with Covid it seems. If you search for this on the www and look at the dates of the articles you'll find they go back to the mid 1990's (the vaults were removed about 2010) https://www.jacksonville.com/article/20140204/NEWS/801258710 Again look at the dates on the articles as you search(2009,2013,14 ect.) and you will see how many times the burial vaults have been reworked into different end time scenarios over the years https://www.covnews.com/rockdale-archives/company-debunks-fema-coffin-myth/
Ya know, I wondered about all this. This sounds like extreme, unhinged, crazy talk. We make utter fools of ourselves if we believe every thing we see on the 'net. I made a fool of myself years ago during the Obama years believing that he was preparing prison camps for his political opposition. You all really need to be careful about what you ingest and spread forth. This can make us as bad as the Leftist revolutionaries in our midst.

I do believe something's afoot. I think I can make (and have made on YouTube) the case that the American Left is not liberal, but illiberal and fascistic. We have a communo-fascist revolution attempt being made here, but it's happening from the top-down -- not your normal revolution. There are too many crises happening at once, and they are human-caused. Inflation, riots, covid (if you want to call that a crisis), global warming (again, if you want to call that a crisis)... All of these are being exploited and, in my opinion, will never end as long as they are useful to the powers that be. There may even be, God forbid, food shortages next year, again, human-caused. In America. But, we're not there yet and I'm claiming no prophetic gifts.

There is a fascist movement in the US, and such movements require crises to panic the population. But, we have to be measured in our response to everything. We cannot believe every single thing we see and read online. We need to check it vs. other things / sources. We wind up wasting our energy on illusions, and we discredit ourselves in the process.

Want to be prepared? Nothing wrong with that. Natural disasters happen, so even if things were more normal, being prepared is never unwise. I may invest in some of that Patriot Food Supply. We just need to make sure we don't make ourselves look like raving lunatics in the process. That doesn't glorify God and it discredits any political / social points we want to make.
 
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Gojira

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Short answer, no.

But I will say if Christians want to store up goods in the event of a shortage, they should do so with the intention of helping others, not themselves.

When Agabus made his prophecy about the great famine in Acts 11, the saints took up a collection for the brothers and sisters in Judea. They didn't build fallout shelters and hunker down with their weapons.
I think you can actually do both. Protect your household, which is your responsibility, but also be prepared to bless others.
 

soberxp

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Are you sure the shortage of goods is not because they are sold out at a discount?
 

JohnDB

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Are you sure the shortage of goods is not because they are sold out at a discount?
Yes...
Shipping containers are a thing that wears out or gets lost at sea over a timetable. Doors get broken and etc.

They also have a bad habit of stacking up empty at consumer nations.

Meaning that producer countries are having a shortage of them. And fuel costs too much to ship a load of empty containers to producer countries.

Where we need steel to produce more containers...the steel isn't getting made.
Now some of these shipping containers are specialized..they are refrigerated or frozen containers complete with their own refrigeration system and insulation and fuel source.
These are used for things like oranges, chocolate, and etc. They especially are running short at the moment.

Some things like microchips or medicines get shipped by airplanes... because they are expensive and the prices can support the air freight.

But most of the world's goods are shipped by sea...and they are in a disaster zone at the moment with clogged cargo ports in America and no cargo coming out of places like Vietnam or India.
 

iamsoandso

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Ya know, I wondered about all this. This sounds like extreme, unhinged, crazy talk. We make utter fools of ourselves if we believe every thing we see on the 'net. I made a fool of myself years ago during the Obama years believing that he was preparing prison camps for his political opposition. You all really need to be careful about what you ingest and spread forth. This can make us as bad as the Leftist revolutionaries in our midst.

I do believe something's afoot. I think I can make (and have made on YouTube) the case that the American Left is not liberal, but illiberal and fascistic. We have a communo-fascist revolution attempt being made here, but it's happening from the top-down -- not your normal revolution. There are too many crises happening at once, and they are human-caused. Inflation, riots, covid (if you want to call that a crisis), global warming (again, if you want to call that a crisis)... All of these are being exploited and, in my opinion, will never end as long as they are useful to the powers that be. There may even be, God forbid, food shortages next year, again, human-caused. In America. But, we're not there yet and I'm claiming no prophetic gifts.

There is a fascist movement in the US, and such movements require crises to panic the population. But, we have to be measured in our response to everything. We cannot believe every single thing we see and read online. We need to check it vs. other things / sources. We wind up wasting our energy on illusions, and we discredit ourselves in the process.

Want to be prepared? Nothing wrong with that. Natural disasters happen, so even if things were more normal, being prepared is never unwise. I may invest in some of that Patriot Food Supply. We just need to make sure we don't make ourselves look like raving lunatics in the process. That doesn't glorify God and it discredits any political / social points we want to make.

Yep maybe it's because I'm rather old but I agree when I hear the conversation start "the left...and/or the right ect.ect." my first thoughts are "oh were suppose to narrow it down to twiddle dee or twiddle dumb" ,,,at least it always ends the same so far...
 

ZNP

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Madagascar -- Famine


Afghanistan -- brink of famine


Samburu famine


Food insecurity in Africa -- increased by 20%

 

ZNP

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Is this the end of days?

 

ZNP

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The dominoes are falling in China

 

ZNP

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I was inspired by what many of the billionaires just did in response to this global economic collapse.

Many of them flew to Monte Carlo where they keep a yacht and with their yachts spelled out "We're all in this together". It was a beautiful sight to see. Even some of the servants were out on deck waving as they took the picture.
 

ZNP

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Wow!!
 

Handyman62

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Just put 50 pounds of venison in the deep freezer. I have also been dry canning rice, pasta and grits to add the the canned food I have already been stockpiling. At this point I have close to a years supply of food. The venison I will consume within a year but the rest I will hold in reserve. Next year I will try and get another deer for the freezer.
 

ZNP

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Coal prices up 70% year to date