The Shortage, Are You Preparing?

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Not sure what planet some people are on with beinge buying, but they should snap out of it. Its not called inflation, its called price gouging, for the ones that are too simple to understand, and price gouging is definitely illegal.
 
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Not sure what planet some people are on with beinge buying, but they should snap out of it. Its not called inflation, its called price gouging, for the ones that are too simple to understand, and price gouging is definitely illegal.

There were idiots during the pandemic that were taking truck loads of hand sanitizer and selling at twice the price!! I think they were from TN or they caught them there. Can you imagine going to prison for something so stupid?
 
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There is a difference in hoarding and preparing.
Joseph prepared for the famine that was to come.
Israel, while in the wilderness, prepared for the seventh day by gathering a double portion of the manna on the sixth day.
Israel, in the promised land, prepared for the seventh year when nothing was to be gathered.
Five of the ten virgins were prepared because they brought extra oil.
Is it really faith when God gives us opportunity and means to prepare for a rainy day and we waste that opportunity on things we just want?
I have not wasted my opportunity.
I will share with any that has not had that opportunity.
But those who show up with their Nike shoes, designer jeans, styled hair, and $1000 cell phones will be turned away just as the five foolish virgins.
 

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Does China's real estate bubble pop? Will this cause a worldwide depression? Can China prevent this collapse from happening until after the olympics? Stay tuned!
 

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Let's discuss China's economic situation because it is far more complicated than Evergrande.

1. I would recommend everyone watch the movie "The Big Short". What stood out to me was not the real estate bubble, or the collapse or even the "too big to fail" although all of those were really enlightening parts of the story. What stood out was once the key metrics began moving on which the securities were based the price of the security and the rating did not move. That was a blatant, in your face lie by the entire system. It would be like 2 + 2 = 4 and then learning that 2 +1 = 4 and then 2 + 0 = 4. What I learned is that they will lie, they will openly lie, and they will continue lying until the entire house collapses on top of them. Termites are real, you can ignore them, you can claim they aren't there, but eventually the house will collapse. Now if this is true in the US you can be sure it is really true in China. Think of how much they control the media and what is said. Their ability to lie and practice of lying is so much more developed than the US that I fully expect them to do what we saw in "the Big Short", only longer and more effectively.

2. Evergrande is only the tip of the iceberg. The government in China is as corrupt as anywhere on earth. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. What we have learned is that all of these provincial government officials make money on construction projects. They take bribes to approve the projects, they take bribes to overlook code violations, and because of this they promote all kinds of projects that should never be built. The Evergrande collapse is simply the tip of the spear, their loss is calculated in billions of dollars, the bad government projects are calculated in trillions of dollars. The scale of the problem is easily ten times greater than what they want to admit.

3. Rapid growth in the economy was able to hide all kinds of structural problems. It is like issues being hidden because the tide was coming in and the water was rising. Now, because of the pandemic, the tide is going out and it is revealing massive corruption and idiotic projects. For example, if you are projecting 7% growth annualized for the next ten years you will have a very different target than if the real growth is less than 2%. But it is worse than that, as China began threatening war many companies began pulling their operations out of China. And it got even worse when Australia refused to sell China coal. They were suffering power outages and couldn't keep factories open cutting production even more. Think of China's economy as a train and they are going up a 2% grade. They have to go up this hill, if they don't the whole economy will roll backwards and crash. Meanwhile they are carrying a very heavy load trying to mee the unrealistic projections of 7% growth projections. What is powering this train is the coal and by cutting the supply of coal they can no longer get enough power to go up that 2% grade. The first sign is Evergrande bankruptcy, but in reality there are very many more bankruptcies that preceded this, think of them as dominoes and as they fell we got bigger and bigger dominoes. As every domino falls it becomes harder and harder to meet that 2% goal.

4. At the same time China has had very bad harvest seasons year after year. Last year they revealed that the corrupt provincial rulers had lied about the stock piles of food, another way they get rich is to sell the food to the black market and pretend it is still there in the granaries. As a result we are seeing incredible, historic levels of inflation. This may bother Americans and sour them towards Biden, but in China it is going to push them towards widespread famine.

5. Meanwhile revelations of genocide and the pandemic being developed in a bioweapons lab are being revealed. So then by itself Evergrande is a bankruptcy that in other years China could have weathered but not now. No doubt they are hoping that the Olympics would be a bright spot in a very gloomy forecast, but with revelations of the genocide going on in China as well as their involvement in the pandemic I suspect the demands to boycott the olympics will grow daily. Imagine if the rest of the world chooses to boycott the olympics, it will be a gut punch to China. Cancel culture eats its own. The NBA and all the woke corporations that have been compromised by their involvement with China are being exposed. Their lies and their hypocrisy will all cause them to see their revenue shrink. For China anemic growth is catastrophic, imagine what it would be if the economy actually shrunk!

6. They have done all this while threatening to attack Taiwan. What many may not understand is that Taiwan has positioned itself as a really critical partner in the manufacture of the most advanced computer chips in the world. The entire developed world will fight to keep that from happening and the easiest thing to do is to impose sanctions. Imagine sanctions on top of cancel culture on top of inflation on top of the bankruptcies.
 

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There is a bizarre monetary policy going on worldwide. Everyone is printing money like crazy and since everyone is doing it you don't see anyone's currency getting devalued (except for the few countries: Iran, Turkey and Lebanon -- nothing like a little instability in the Middle East).

So can you actually avoid inflation if everyone is printing money? No, what is happening is that production of goods are down but stimulus checks keep coming in. The supply of money is increasing dramatically while the amount of goods is not.

The result will be a sudden, violent collapse worldwide. One day everyone will wake up and it doesn't matter how much cash you have whatever it is you need will not be available.
 

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Joe Biden is a prophet

 

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Great News!

There aren't any tests available at the time when everyone has to be tested to fly on a plane or to go to a party or to see their parents. This is not bad news, I see it as good news because this will impact the one last bastion of Biden support, liberal suburbanites. God is merciful to give everyone a chance to wake up.
 
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Great News!

There aren't any tests available at the time when everyone has to be tested to fly on a plane or to go to a party or to see their parents. This is not bad news, I see it as good news because this will impact the one last bastion of Biden support, liberal suburbanites. God is merciful to give everyone a chance to wake up.

So let's take a look at where we are now, and if it is possible to prepare at this point. The news again said this was the "most expensive" Easter ever. It wasn't for my family because I bought our turkey last fall at 99 cents a pound. Now it costs over a dollar where I am. I had already had almost every ingredient needed for this dinner from fall. Except for potatoes, or things that are perishable. My local Wal-Mart was packed Fri. and Sat. it looked like Christmas. I was glad I had gotten things early.

With new shortages predicted, is anyone preparing? If so how? Is it even possible to get ready for what is coming? My pastor said yesterday that Iran and it's backers are saying they are going to destroy Israel by the date of July 8. Wipe it off the map. I don't believe that will happen, but it is another twist in this mess. Thoughts anyone?
 

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With new shortages predicted, is anyone preparing? If so how? Is it even possible to get ready for what is coming? My pastor said yesterday that Iran and it's backers are saying they are going to destroy Israel by the date of July 8. Wipe it off the map. I don't believe that will happen, but it is another twist in this mess. Thoughts anyone?
I have purchased enough rice and beans to feed my family for about 4 months. I see this as a "supplement" to our diet. I have also ordered a package from Joseph's Kitchen that will feed my family for 8 months. I bought the rice and beans before we saw any spike in price, so that is very inexpensive, and I left it in sub freezing weather for a month so I am not worried about bugs and eggs.

Joseph's kitchen works out to feeding one person for one day for $3, that is quite affordable. My idea is if I have sufficient food for one year I can buy food that supplements that and so stretch this to two years.

However, I see the tribulation beginning this year, most likely during the Fall. I am hoping to be raptured prior to the tribulation, still it is prudent to see the calamity coming and to prepare.

https://josephskitchen.com/
 
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So let's take a look at where we are now, and if it is possible to prepare at this point. The news again said this was the "most expensive" Easter ever. It wasn't for my family because I bought our turkey last fall at 99 cents a pound. Now it costs over a dollar where I am. I had already had almost every ingredient needed for this dinner from fall. Except for potatoes, or things that are perishable. My local Wal-Mart was packed Fri. and Sat. it looked like Christmas. I was glad I had gotten things early.

With new shortages predicted, is anyone preparing? If so how? Is it even possible to get ready for what is coming? My pastor said yesterday that Iran and it's backers are saying they are going to destroy Israel by the date of July 8. Wipe it off the map. I don't believe that will happen, but it is another twist in this mess. Thoughts anyone?
Preparing is a way of life for me and my family, has been for many years.
It is never to late to add to your reserves if it is still on the shelves of the local stores.
One must just make a commitment to leave off the frills and unnecessary things and buy NON PERISHABLE foods to store for that rainy day.
I do not believe Iran will attack Israel because the day before that is to happens, Israel will wipe Iran off the face of the earth.
When that happens, and it will, you had best be ready for total chaos world wide.
While physical preparing is necessary, I always tell everyone it is more important to prepare spiritually, be in fellowship with God.
Zephaniah 2:1-3
 

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Preparing is a way of life for me and my family, has been for many years.
It is never to late to add to your reserves if it is still on the shelves of the local stores.
One must just make a commitment to leave off the frills and unnecessary things and buy NON PERISHABLE foods to store for that rainy day.
I do not believe Iran will attack Israel because the day before that is to happens, Israel will wipe Iran off the face of the earth.
When that happens, and it will, you had best be ready for total chaos world wide.
While physical preparing is necessary, I always tell everyone it is more important to prepare spiritually, be in fellowship with God.
Zephaniah 2:1-3
Not just food... water will be even more important. I've stocked up on water filtration devices as well. You have to plan for when your storage runs out, because once we get to the point where we need them there'll be no going back. So hunting/gathering supplies should also be on your list. Shelter, clothing, medical supplies...
 

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Do whatever Holy Spirit guides you to do, anymore I don't think that is what He guides me to do.
 
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Not just food... water will be even more important. I've stocked up on water filtration devices as well. You have to plan for when your storage runs out, because once we get to the point where we need them there'll be no going back. So hunting/gathering supplies should also be on your list. Shelter, clothing, medical supplies...
I live on 187 acres, covered with trees, 18 miles from the nearest store. I have a well, two live, clear creeks, 5 springs, and enough non perishable food to last for years.
I have live game I can hunt while setting on my front porch.
Started this many years ago and can set here for years if need be.
 

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I live on 187 acres, covered with trees, 18 miles from the nearest store. I have a well, two live, clear creeks, 5 springs, and enough non perishable food to last for years.
I have live game I can hunt while setting on my front porch.
Started this many years ago and can set here for years if need be.

you are in good shape!
 

ZNP

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you are in good shape!
Provided that you and your gang can hold off a Mad Max like gang. If you have ten others with guns and a very good defensive set up you should be fine as well as good training among a number of you in medical care as well as medical supplies.
 

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Provided that you and your gang can hold off a Mad Max like gang. If you have ten others with guns and a very good defensive set up you should be fine as well as good training among a number of you in medical care as well as medical supplies.
I think it's from watching the movies where they hold pistols sideways or maybe there's just not to many places in the city to target practice? Ever notice in the news where they show a shooting where 80 or a 100 bullets were fired and only one person gets hit in the foot? Me and my sons talked about that several times and that's all we could come up with(maybe there's another answer?). I suppose learning just how far to lead a quail or a deer comes with practice. Were stumped here in the woods though as to how anyone could shoot more than once or at most twice at anything. It happens all the time though if you watch the people come during deer season and try shooting one from a stand(shoots under it every time),lol.