THREE REASONS TRUMP IS SURGING IN THE POLLS

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Ugh I tried to add this but got rejected.

Am I saying Hillary/Sanders supporters got it right? Lol nope. But at the same time, Hillary/Sanders haven't made up a persona and created fake stances to attract a certain elderly/racist/Christian/nationalist demographic. People actually think that is really how Donald Trump talks and acts. It's insane. With Hillary/Sanders, you KNOW exactly what kind of Marxist you are getting.

If you must pick a master to feel safe, vote Libertarian. They are the closest things to Anarchists that you'll find. It would almost be like voting for me. Now wouldn't that make you feel safe?
If anarchy ruled there'd be no voting. I suppose that's how you'd like it.
 

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There's a big difference between people's "eyes being opened" and it becoming socially accept to be stupid. The truth is, Trump IS pandering to stupidity, and people who think Trump will improve the country, ARE stupid. It should never be socially acceptable to blatantly ignore facts or spout hatred and lies. Trump's message is basically: climate science is a joke; all Muslims ought to be banned because they're all a threat to the country's safety; Mexicans are lazy and immigration should not be tolerated; really rich people shouldnt be taxed (but poor people should); gay people ought to get straight; stupidity is not only okay, it's awesome!

Those are all dangerous ideas. I hate to resort to what might be perceived as malicious Hitlerization, but the parralels make the comparison qualifiable. Trump looks at Mexicans like Hitler looked at the Polish; and Trump looks at Muslims like Hitler looked at the Jews. Trump also looks at southern Republicans like Hitler looked at Bavarians: he manipulates and decieves the very people who make up his majority support.
Only the brain washed make sweeping generalizations like this.
For example, "immigration should not be tolerated". I see you have been drinking the swill from the far left. Do you know the difference between 'immigration' and 'illegal immigration'? Or are you for all things illegal?
 

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Here are two reasons Trump is surging LOL...


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Only the brain washed make sweeping generalizations like this.
For example, "immigration should not be tolerated". I see you have been drinking the swill from the far left. Do you know the difference between 'immigration' and 'illegal immigration'? Or are you for all things illegal?
Not at all. I think illegal immigration is a problem that needs addressed, for many reasons: the drain on the economy, the tax avoidance, the poverty and the crime that poverty often leads people to. But the solution to those problems are firstly to take better precautions so as illegal immigrants cannot immigrate to America, to have contingencies should those precautions fail, and to tackle the conditions and effects of impoverishment in 1st generation immigrant communities. Obviously this needs to be a joint operation between Mexico, the Caribbean and central American islands, and the USA. But Trump hasn't treated these issues with any of the finesse they require. A hammer is useless when you require a pen.

Yes, it was a generalization. But really it is somewhat accurate. By the inferences Trump used and the manner in which he talks about immigration, Mexicans and definitely Muslims, Trump speaks to the part in people that hates foreigners. This isn't a case of a talented politician approaching the illegal immigration problem with rationality, fairness and the strictness and will for reform which is obviously necessary to yield favourable outcomes. This is a case of a clumsy oaf representing himself as such; inspiring many of his followers, pehaps inadvertently so, to oust immigrants and Muslims and people who are black, from his rallies; and saying things which directly incite racially motivated hatred. Good uniters of people don't do those things. Yes, all talk of change brings controversy, but that controversy should inspire people to have honest and informed discussions with one another, to talk about these problems with a view to fixing them in a constructive, efficient and peaceful way. They shouldnt inspire people to vandalism and hate crime.
 

p_rehbein

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Originally Posted by Bushido8000

Trump supporters can be just as vulgar, not to mention violent.

And you know three good people who are cops. You don't know any good cops as that notion can't exist.



SIRK SEZ: I honestly don't even know how to respond to this nonsense.


Here, Sirk, lemme help ya with that.........just tell him


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crossnote; said:
sigh, correlation does not mean causation...but you knew that.


the record clearly shows there is a correlation between the international boycott started under Bush's wars and the recession
 
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the record clearly shows there is a correlation between the international boycott started under Bush's wars and the recession
Considering most of the developed countries of the world (and the ubdeveloped) had majorities who didn't want the Iraq war; who thought Bush should be tried for war crimes in the Hague under the Geneva Convention and the instruction of the U.N., which he ignored. I'd say here that correlation definitely does imply some level of causation.
 

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Considering most of the developed countries of the world (and the ubdeveloped) had majorities who didn't want the Iraq war; who thought Bush should be tried for war crimes in the Hague under the Geneva Convention and the instruction of the U.N., which he ignored. I'd say here that correlation definitely does imply some level of causation.



Hate to sat it but in the USA far too many of us have succumbed to the idea that Bush could do no wrong.

When the Dixie Chicks criticized him they were under attack for months on end and country music stations boycotted them. But when country music and other right wing entertainers criticized Obama nothing was done about it.

The record will clearly and unequivocally show that Obama ended Bush's recession, created millions more jobs, and extended health care coverage to the poor (myself included). We have not seen this type of success in a long time. Even if right wingers do not approve, history will prove that his administration was far more successful than Bush just as Clinton's was more successful than his predecessor.
 
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If anarchy ruled there'd be no voting. I suppose that's how you'd like it.
Hey now you're starting to catch on!

I honestly don't even know how to respond to this nonsense.
Allow me to elaborate. Your friends are good people who have been duped into committing awful crimes of extortion and false imprisonment for victimless crimes on a daily basis. Hope that clears it up.
 
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Hey now you're starting to catch on!



Allow me to elaborate. Your friends are good people who have been duped into committing awful crimes of extortion and false imprisonment for victimless crimes on a daily basis. Hope that clears it up.
We are a nation of laws. Have you been on the wrong side of it? Perhaps "innocent", wrongly accused etc?
 
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We are a nation of laws. Have you been on the wrong side of it? Perhaps "innocent", wrongly accused etc?
Nope. But I have had police desperately try to place me there and sweat profusely when they realized they were wrong and were in the deep end of a crime themselves. I've had police use dogs to falsely alert on my car, but not before pulling their camera's away from my car so it couldn't catch the dog not alerting on my car. It's always the same phrase.
"We still think you're guilty of something" or "well...have a nice day...(seeing as how we couldn't ruin it)"

Unless you are referring to traffic tickets. I've had 2 speeding tickets in my life and that was when I was 21/22
 
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I'll add that my disdain for police/government and thirst for freedom began at the tender age of 4 when I watched 73 men, women, and children burn to death on live TV by your wonderful heroes in blue...in my ninja turtle underwear. And then in later years I proceeded to watch as nobody batted an eye. No apologies. No regrets. Just pay raises and pats on the back for a job well done.

My political worldview isn't due to some personal event. It isn't because I was caught and arrested for being a piece of scum. I'm a poster boy for squeaky clean records. I have just watched innocent people get falsely railed for crimes that shouldn't even be crimes.

Also, That's why I don't buy the whole "soldiers are fighting for our freedom" bull. Where was the freedom for the babies in Waco Tx? Where was the freedom for the 12 year old boy and woman carrying an infant at Ruby Ridge?
 
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I'll add that my disdain for police/government and thirst for freedom began at the tender age of 4 when I watched 73 men, women, and children burn to death on live TV by your wonderful heroes in blue...in my ninja turtle underwear. And then in later years I proceeded to watch as nobody batted an eye. No apologies. No regrets. Just pay raises and pats on the back for a job well done.

My political worldview isn't due to some personal event. It isn't because I was caught and arrested for being a piece of scum. I'm a poster boy for squeaky clean records. I have just watched innocent people get falsely railed for crimes that shouldn't even be crimes.

Also, That's why I don't buy the whole "soldiers are fighting for our freedom" bull. Where was the freedom for the babies in Waco Tx? Where was the freedom for the 12 year old boy and woman carrying an infant at Ruby Ridge?





Did you also mean to include those killed by Philadelphia police against the Move cult and the thousands persecuted by police and corrupt prosecutors in Philly, Baltimore, Arizona, Florida, and NYC in the fabricated "Wilding" case? Over 1,000 people released by the Innocents Project - God only knows how many died in prison for crimes they never committed.
 
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Did you also mean to include those killed by Philadelphia police against the Move cult and the thousands persecuted by police and corrupt prosecutors in Philly, Baltimore, Arizona, Florida, and NYC in the fabricated "Wilding" case? Over 1,000 people released by the Innocents Project - God only knows how many died in prison for crimes they never committed.
To tell you the truth I had no idea about all of that. It makes my anger for the things I have seen seem so minuscule haha.
 
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If anarchy ruled there'd be no voting. I suppose that's how you'd like it.
Anarchy looks good on paper but the fact is that some power mad crazy person will always step in to fill the void without rule of law.
 

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Anarchy looks good on paper but the fact is that some power mad crazy person will always step in to fill the void without rule of law.

I'm on my way now...........I IZ DA RULER!

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Hate to sat it but in the USA far too many of us have succumbed to the idea that Bush could do no wrong.

When the Dixie Chicks criticized him they were under attack for months on end and country music stations boycotted them. But when country music and other right wing entertainers criticized Obama nothing was done about it.

The record will clearly and unequivocally show that Obama ended Bush's recession, created millions more jobs, and extended health care coverage to the poor (myself included). We have not seen this type of success in a long time. Even if right wingers do not approve, history will prove that his administration was far more successful than Bush just as Clinton's was more successful than his predecessor.
Bush was a puppet just like Obama is a puppet just like Hillary is a puppet....oh and Obama tripled the national debt. And health care costs are about to go thru the roof thanks to "Obamacare"
 
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Anarchy looks good on paper but the fact is that some power mad crazy person will always step in to fill the void without rule of law.
This is false. A society would need to be preconditioned to accept an anarchist society and the mindset, just like people needed to be trained and indoctrinated with the idea of democracy. How silly of an idea is it for 49% of a population to have to follow the rules and regulation of the 51%. Anyone can see that is a stupid idea.

We should have people looking at our country and going "this is insane!" and destroying it from the inside out, battling for a better way. A different way of governing, at least in the name of self-preservation as a country....but we don't. instead, we are holding another election this year. Our candidates are a felon, a socialist, and a nazi. That kind of stupidity just isn't accepted at face value. It's indoctrinated and trained over many years, decades even. The same would need to happen for an Anarchist society to function on a large scale.
 
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