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America is a nation of immigrants and refugees. We started with refugees. The problem today is refugees often include thugs, terrorists, and other undesirables.
And, frankly, terrorists are the ones imposing Sharia Law on nations. T'ain't our weapons that started it. I own up that once we start something we wuss out before we finish it, but I can guarantee ISIS has nothing to do with us unloading in the Middle East. We unload when a dictator enforces what we will not bear! (Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, Bin Laden. Do those names ring a bell? Because they're the ones we unloaded on, and they're the ones who caused state-sanctioned terrorism. Our big problem is we leave before we mop up afterward... oh! And the stupid PC'ers have brainwashed our politicians into thinking Republics and Democracies aren't the only way of governing people. Yes! They really are, given absolutely no one can do theocracy!)
And, frankly, terrorists are the ones imposing Sharia Law on nations. T'ain't our weapons that started it. I own up that once we start something we wuss out before we finish it, but I can guarantee ISIS has nothing to do with us unloading in the Middle East. We unload when a dictator enforces what we will not bear! (Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, Bin Laden. Do those names ring a bell? Because they're the ones we unloaded on, and they're the ones who caused state-sanctioned terrorism. Our big problem is we leave before we mop up afterward... oh! And the stupid PC'ers have brainwashed our politicians into thinking Republics and Democracies aren't the only way of governing people. Yes! They really are, given absolutely no one can do theocracy!)
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I found this on Gadaffi.
https://youtu.be/VRVRc9cZCsc
https://youtu.be/VRVRc9cZCsc
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I honestly think these two young ladies leading the two countries aren't angry at each other at all. This IS negotiating. Every single time unions and owners argue contracts, the unions are crying that they can't feed their babies and the owners are crying the business will close. By the time the contract is signed, babies are fed, business is back to usual, both sides think they won, and they become friends again.
It's only bad negotiators that screw up the works. (Business does fold, or worse, the owner celebrates the no-raise contract by buying two Trans Ams because he couldn't figure out which color he liked... true story.) Do either of those ladies seem incompetent to you? Because I keep thinking they're both sharp ladies for women oh-so-young. lol
(Some kid on this board a year ago was complaining about these two leaders because they were sooooooo old, and they should be at home taking care of their kids. As a 61 year old, well? It's a year later and I'm still chuckling over that one. lol)
It's only bad negotiators that screw up the works. (Business does fold, or worse, the owner celebrates the no-raise contract by buying two Trans Ams because he couldn't figure out which color he liked... true story.) Do either of those ladies seem incompetent to you? Because I keep thinking they're both sharp ladies for women oh-so-young. lol
(Some kid on this board a year ago was complaining about these two leaders because they were sooooooo old, and they should be at home taking care of their kids. As a 61 year old, well? It's a year later and I'm still chuckling over that one. lol)
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Naturally both leaders will have many items to negotiate on. It is a natural thing which will need sorting out on behalf of everyones interests both in the UK and the EU.
What puzzled me somewhat was when we were deciding which way to vote, many voters voted for Brexit because Mr Obama tried to get voters to vote towards the EU saying he will make sure if we vote for brexit that the UK would be at the end of the list in negotiations between the USA and the UK.
What puzzled me somewhat was when we were deciding which way to vote, many voters voted for Brexit because Mr Obama tried to get voters to vote towards the EU saying he will make sure if we vote for brexit that the UK would be at the end of the list in negotiations between the USA and the UK.
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If you want the broader picture, it's about power! And power is land/country/people. It is the people who live in it, and those people have to agree with you most of the time or they'll strip you of that power. So, what do people want in return for giving you power? Their land, their rights, their freedom, and their money.
Which wrapped up all together is economy, money, religion, safety, and comfort.
This is all the stuff that goes up and down the ladder -- from nation to individual. And from individual to nation. It is the stuff that starts and finishes wars. You betcha! Take someone's chance at economy, money, religion, safety, or comfort away and it suddenly is worth fighting for.
Proof? Did you let the Nazis take England? You could have. The countries around you more-or-less did. You did not. And honestly?
THAT is your power! That's what England gives the world! Dang-determined people! (And I say that as an offspring. My country is a daughter-country. We came from you. So did Australia. So did Canada. That dang-determined is a gene that runs through each of those countries because of your country. Also not a small thing.)
Which wrapped up all together is economy, money, religion, safety, and comfort.
This is all the stuff that goes up and down the ladder -- from nation to individual. And from individual to nation. It is the stuff that starts and finishes wars. You betcha! Take someone's chance at economy, money, religion, safety, or comfort away and it suddenly is worth fighting for.
Proof? Did you let the Nazis take England? You could have. The countries around you more-or-less did. You did not. And honestly?
THAT is your power! That's what England gives the world! Dang-determined people! (And I say that as an offspring. My country is a daughter-country. We came from you. So did Australia. So did Canada. That dang-determined is a gene that runs through each of those countries because of your country. Also not a small thing.)
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I was referencing this -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_United_States_bombing_of_Libya
I really can't help that we don't finish what we start. And I really, really can't help that it's the liberals that are the biggest wusses in our country, so they could screw up winning the mega lottery in under two days.
I haven't been able to help the right guy get into office since 1984.
I really can't help that we don't finish what we start. And I really, really can't help that it's the liberals that are the biggest wusses in our country, so they could screw up winning the mega lottery in under two days.
I haven't been able to help the right guy get into office since 1984.
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Why does that puzzle you? We're a simple people. Both liberal and conservative politicians annoy us to no end. That's exactly why we switch it up -- liberal for eight years than conservative for eight years, then back to liberals.
We have something called "a lame duck." It is the assumption we have of any President for their 6-8th year in office. They may well try to get something to passed, but it is guaranteed to be undone by the next President within the first 100 days. Simple. Keep track of how long our President has been in office. The longer he has been, the less chance his words mean anything but blustering.
Orrr, in the case of our last two Democratic Presidents? Assume it's a lie until otherwise proven.
(Got to say. Our "every four years" election cycle makes it easier for you to keep up with us, than your lack-of-cycle makes it easy for us to keep up with your head of state. Hard to tell when your PM reaches lame duck stage. Our first clue is, "Oh. You're having another election already?" And given how often that works that the same person is reelected, we tend not to take it seriously until there is a new person.)
We have something called "a lame duck." It is the assumption we have of any President for their 6-8th year in office. They may well try to get something to passed, but it is guaranteed to be undone by the next President within the first 100 days. Simple. Keep track of how long our President has been in office. The longer he has been, the less chance his words mean anything but blustering.
Orrr, in the case of our last two Democratic Presidents? Assume it's a lie until otherwise proven.
(Got to say. Our "every four years" election cycle makes it easier for you to keep up with us, than your lack-of-cycle makes it easy for us to keep up with your head of state. Hard to tell when your PM reaches lame duck stage. Our first clue is, "Oh. You're having another election already?" And given how often that works that the same person is reelected, we tend not to take it seriously until there is a new person.)
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Not living there I dont understand the difference between parties. Here we have a party called Liberal Democrats. A very brief mention on the news or recently was the Liberal Democrat leader has stood down as he is a Christian and he says Christian and politics no longer go together in the UK due to the way the UK has changed. He had to put the Lord first.
It is the saddest thing I've seen recently in politics.
The party here is basically in between the two extremes of Labour and Conservatives. Those extremes today are narrower compared to how they once were in ideas and concepts since the "New Labour views from the days of Tony Blair onwards mirrored the views of the Conservatives despite them being the opposites as parties go. Back then voters became rather confused!
Today the two parties are still settling down with the occasional earthquake while the political land settles into every day policy making and views. Understandably there is a great deal going on behind the scenes in all parties concerned in all the parliaments of the four countries that form the British Isles.
It is the saddest thing I've seen recently in politics.
The party here is basically in between the two extremes of Labour and Conservatives. Those extremes today are narrower compared to how they once were in ideas and concepts since the "New Labour views from the days of Tony Blair onwards mirrored the views of the Conservatives despite them being the opposites as parties go. Back then voters became rather confused!
Today the two parties are still settling down with the occasional earthquake while the political land settles into every day policy making and views. Understandably there is a great deal going on behind the scenes in all parties concerned in all the parliaments of the four countries that form the British Isles.
To be blunt: I don't see why man Brits want EU rights/ assets but not to be in the EU.
is it OK for a Christian to be angry? Yes: "Be angry but sin not".
Besides, I doubt God expected his creations to always agree on everything, he must have known before starting we'd keep getting ourselves into arguments and troubles
is it OK for a Christian to be angry? Yes: "Be angry but sin not".
Besides, I doubt God expected his creations to always agree on everything, he must have known before starting we'd keep getting ourselves into arguments and troubles
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Well. Your political parties area naturally different to ours despite some similar sounding names. I do find that the last few years in the UK we seem to hear more about if the USA leader (whoever he or she is at the time) sneezes or coughs then what comes on our news about important issues of our country. At one time during Brexit it was surreal. We had the important issues ofBrexit to decide here and plastered across our news taking most of the air time were reports of what Hilary or Donald said and this was ages and ages away from your election vote. One would have thought your vote was the very next day, but no,almost day in day out it was on the UK news at the time we were trying to find info on the UK happenings.
The queen could have had another baby back then and we would get the USA news predicting their election results almost a year before your election!
Weird or what!
Regarding parties over there I really dont know a lot as it doss not relate to us in a form that is relevant to the UK except to know who got in. (I don't know what party Hillary or Donald are in other then they were and are in competition. I do find it wrong from our point of view when one hears personal insults back and fore with nothing to do with policies. It just is very child like to us and is not politics.
The queen could have had another baby back then and we would get the USA news predicting their election results almost a year before your election!
Weird or what!
Regarding parties over there I really dont know a lot as it doss not relate to us in a form that is relevant to the UK except to know who got in. (I don't know what party Hillary or Donald are in other then they were and are in competition. I do find it wrong from our point of view when one hears personal insults back and fore with nothing to do with policies. It just is very child like to us and is not politics.
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The American Democratic party (Hilary) is basically the American Labour party and the Republicans (Trump) is the American Conservative party. As a general rule (though there are exceptions) the Republicans are the party the Evangelical Christians support as they are anti abortion and anti most things the Bible condemns. I am being very simplistic here but this is the basics.
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BTW in American if you are a politician and a Christian it is a good thing whereas in Britain it is the exact opposite as was proven recently by the leader of the Liberal Democrats who was forced to resign. I wasn't a fan of his for he went against his own beliefs for votes and stated (when he was under duress) "no gay sex is not a sin". Everyone knew he didn't believe his own words yet he said them. I hope he has asked The Lord to forgive him for speaking those words.
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Thanks for that as it makes more sense. Here Christians vote both ways and there are Christians in most of our parties. Unfortunately some policies are such that as a Christian one can't agree with. The Liberal Democrat leader had been harassed by the press when they found he was a Christian and he was cornered into his views on gay marriage. I would hate to be the press that did that as I wouldn't want to risk my eternal destiny like that!
At least from a platform position, (what each party espouses on issues), the differences are dramatic and in most cases issues simply cannot be compromised.
I'm being a little simplistic but here are just a few social issues that show the stark differences:
DEMOCRAT:
Abortion on demand up until birth. Forced taxpayer participation via Planned parenthood and other abortion providers.
Homosexual marriage, forced business compliance to that decree.
The abolition of God and support for the State of Israel from the platform.
Encouragement and safe harboring of ILLEGAL, even CRIMINAL aliens (immigrants).
I could list dozens more positions, ALL of which I disagree with, and most of which are opposed by Republicans.
REPUBLICANS:
The opposite of each issue I listed for the Democrats. So there really is no choice if you are a Christian and know the parties platforms.
Unfortunately, although Republicans SAY they are opposed to the evil Democrat agenda, mostly to get votes, they are for the most part, spineless, feckless cowards, afraid to enact what they say they are for.
THAT is why so many of us voted Trump. As boorish as he is, he has done more good in 5 months than the Republicans collectively have done in 20yrs.
I'm being a little simplistic but here are just a few social issues that show the stark differences:
DEMOCRAT:
Abortion on demand up until birth. Forced taxpayer participation via Planned parenthood and other abortion providers.
Homosexual marriage, forced business compliance to that decree.
The abolition of God and support for the State of Israel from the platform.
Encouragement and safe harboring of ILLEGAL, even CRIMINAL aliens (immigrants).
I could list dozens more positions, ALL of which I disagree with, and most of which are opposed by Republicans.
REPUBLICANS:
The opposite of each issue I listed for the Democrats. So there really is no choice if you are a Christian and know the parties platforms.
Unfortunately, although Republicans SAY they are opposed to the evil Democrat agenda, mostly to get votes, they are for the most part, spineless, feckless cowards, afraid to enact what they say they are for.
THAT is why so many of us voted Trump. As boorish as he is, he has done more good in 5 months than the Republicans collectively have done in 20yrs.
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Just to add to the Christian politician discussion, we have politicians in all parties who call themselves Christian yet they voted to allow gays to marry and their views are very liberal. American politicians who also call themselves Christian appear to me to be more "conservative Christians" than their British counterparts. It isn't easy being a Christian in Britain today.