Tired of the EU and their demands

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Billyd

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Nor me, What else could we dunk our buscuits in?
We ice our tea and drink it. We like our coffee hot. We dunk our biscuits in red-eye gravy.
 

Billyd

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That aint biscuits, that's scones! ;)
I see.

You mean those little cakes that my grandmother used to make. She improved the flavor of them by adding a little cane syrup to the batter. They go good with a tall glass of fresh milk.
 

Desdichado

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I wouldn't go green with envy. We're not too far behind on the wide path to oblivion.

The way I see it, our national fates are somewhat intertwined. Not by a conscious choice, but that our peoples are a part of the same sub-Civilization (ie the Anglosphere). Cultural and political trends flowing together are somewhat part and parcel of speaking the same language.

But I could be wrong. Maybe America will remain something of a redoubt. A Constantinople to your Rome.

Just to add to the Christian politician discussion, we have politicians in all parties who call themselves Christian yet they voted to allow gays to marry and their views are very liberal. American politicians who also call themselves Christian appear to me to be more "conservative Christians" than their British counterparts. It isn't easy being a Christian in Britain today.
 
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We ice our tea and drink it. We like our coffee hot. We dunk our biscuits in red-eye gravy.
Whole new meaning to redeye gravy with cookies. (Biscuits are cookies. lol)
 
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Miri

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Now let's be politically correct here. Lol


Biscuits








Scones - sweet dough/pastry





Dumplings and stew/gravy. Made with savoury dough usually with
suet and herbs.






EU - hey has anyone noticed that without the UK it will look a bit like
a cat with the head on the left looking down and the tail
held up on the right!

If you turn it upside upside down it would also look
a bit like a scorpion. I'm good at ink blots. Lol



 

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tanakh

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Well. Your political parties area naturally different to ours despite some similar sounding names. I do find that the last few years in the UK we seem to hear more about if the USA leader (whoever he or she is at the time) sneezes or coughs then what comes on our news about important issues of our country. At one time during Brexit it was surreal. We had the important issues ofBrexit to decide here and plastered across our news taking most of the air time were reports of what Hilary or Donald said and this was ages and ages away from your election vote. One would have thought your vote was the very next day, but no,almost day in day out it was on the UK news at the time we were trying to find info on the UK happenings.
The queen could have had another baby back then and we would get the USA news predicting their election results almost a year before your election!
Weird or what!
Regarding parties over there I really dont know a lot as it doss not relate to us in a form that is relevant to the UK except to know who got in. (I don't know what party Hillary or Donald are in other then they were and are in competition. I do find it wrong from our point of view when one hears personal insults back and fore with nothing to do with policies. It just is very child like to us and is not politics.
Be thankful that we dont have a political system like theirs. I find ours tedious enough. If our campaigns ran as long as theirs I reckon I would be in a funny farm long before the final result.
 
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It will not be easy to leave the EU I suspect
No, it won't be a clean break Brexit
Whether you like her or not
Merkel is a very strong negotiator
And Britain has a wishy washy conservative for Prime Minister
What you need is one like that gallant knight Sir Nigel Farage
Because the Conservatives and Labour are weak
They're like someone trying to sell a car but wants to still keep it in their garage
What you need is someone willing to go to the brink and risk it all
With double-minded Tories and Liberals, the Germans will not be easily beat
Theresa May thinks that this is tit-for-tat tennis but the Germans will play political hardball
 

tourist

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Tennessee
Sorry, but all european nations are white.

You know very well what I am talking about. You are immigrant or your family was. So it surprises me you are against immigration or even against free movement inside Europe.

I wonder what you real motives are.
She's just a sweet person who is kind to everyone. I believe that her motivation is to make people smile and pray for those that are hurt.
 
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It will not be easy to leave the EU I suspect
No, it won't be a clean break Brexit
Whether you like her or not
Merkel is a very strong negotiator
And Britain has a wishy washy conservative for Prime Minister
What you need is one like that gallant knight Sir Nigel Farage
Because the Conservatives and Labour are weak
They're like someone trying to sell a car but wants to still keep it in their garage
What you need is someone willing to go to the brink and risk it all
With double-minded Tories and Liberals, the Germans will not be easily beat
Theresa May thinks that this is tit-for-tat tennis but the Germans will play political hardball
I fear you are correct though Theresa May does have a good negotiating pedigree...it'll be the other conservatives who never wanted to leave who will put pressure on her to accept a soft Brexit.
 

Billyd

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Just to set things straight in the great biscuit hunt. From the deep south.

Real Biscuits



Real Scones (Grandma's style)



At tea time, put a little ice and sugar in your tea, and dip your scones in the cream. Save the biscuits for dinner time.

I guess migration of my English and Irish great-grandparents to the colonies improved on tea time. The appearance of the ice house helped a lot.

I hate to admit it but for most of my redneck culture, tea time has been replaced with beer time. The young folks have even corrupted beer time with flavored beer. I still prefer a tall glass of iced tea.

It doesn't matter how you celebrate it, there is nothing better than taking a mid afternoon break.
 
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Miri

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Ahem. :D


This is a tea cake, toasted with lots of butter, yum.

Sadly everythings off the menu at the moment, I'm trying to lose some weight :(


 
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I would be in a funny farm long before the final result.
At least you'd get to visit with comedians as they grow in their ability to be funny!
 
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Not living there I dont understand the difference between parties. Here we have a party called Liberal Democrats. A very brief mention on the news or recently was the Liberal Democrat leader has stood down as he is a Christian and he says Christian and politics no longer go together in the UK due to the way the UK has changed. He had to put the Lord first.
It is the saddest thing I've seen recently in politics.
The party here is basically in between the two extremes of Labour and Conservatives. Those extremes today are narrower compared to how they once were in ideas and concepts since the "New Labour views from the days of Tony Blair onwards mirrored the views of the Conservatives despite them being the opposites as parties go. Back then voters became rather confused!
Today the two parties are still settling down with the occasional earthquake while the political land settles into every day policy making and views. Understandably there is a great deal going on behind the scenes in all parties concerned in all the parliaments of the four countries that form the British Isles.
I figured I'll never remember your two parties. I just won't. It's to the point I'm thinking, "Labors and Conservatives? Then who are those Tories you guys keep talking about?" :confused:

That's why I went with party platform instead of party names -- figuring you won't remember our names any better than I'll remember yours.

How's this?
Pharisees = conservatives. (They want to keep the old ways strictly.)
Sadducee = liberals. (They want the best for others, as long as it doesn't cost them anything.)

So, you're saying Tony Blair was supposed to be a liberal, but ended up being a conservative? Interesting, since he's the last leader you had that I honestly liked. (We haven't needed help from you guys since him, so haven't kept up.)

Trump is supposed to be a conservative, but he's not. More conservative than Clinton ever would be, (either Clinton), but it felt like our choices were between Harrison Ford or Lady Gaga for President.
 
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Amazing-Grace

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I figured I'll never remember your two parties. I just won't. It's to the point I'm thinking, "Labors and Conservatives? Then who are those Tories you guys keep talking about?" :confused:

That's why I went with party platform instead of party names -- figuring you won't remember our names any better than I'll remember yours.

How's this?
Pharisees = conservatives. (They want to keep the old ways strictly.)
Sadducee = liberals. (They want the best for others, as long as it doesn't cost them anything.)

So, you're saying Tony Blair was supposed to be a liberal, but ended up being a conservative? Interesting, since he's the last leader you had that I honestly liked. (We haven't needed help from you guys since him, so haven't kept up.)

Trump is supposed to be a conservative, but he's not. More conservative than Clinton ever would be, (either Clinton), but it felt like our choices were between Harrison Ford or Lady Gaga for President.
Oh dear lol...Tory is just another name for a conservative - it really is that simple.

Tony Blair was Labour but he was a little more to the right than...say Jeremy Corbin, after Margaret Thatcher did so well in election campaigns the Labour party had to make themselves more appealing to the middle ground voters and so they re-invented themselves calling themselves "New Labour" but the "new" has since been dropped and now with Jeremy Corbin as leader it has again swung far left as in the old days. Our Labour party would be what you guys would call "Liberals".

I hope this all makes sense to you Lynn.
 
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Miri

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I figured I'll never remember your two parties. I just won't. It's to the point I'm thinking, "Labors and Conservatives? Then who are those Tories you guys keep talking about?" :confused:

That's why I went with party platform instead of party names -- figuring you won't remember our names any better than I'll remember yours.

How's this?
Pharisees = conservatives. (They want to keep the old ways strictly.)
Sadducee = liberals. (They want the best for others, as long as it doesn't cost them anything.)

So, you're saying Tony Blair was supposed to be a liberal, but ended up being a conservative? Interesting, since he's the last leader you had that I honestly liked. (We haven't needed help from you guys since him, so haven't kept up.)

Trump is supposed to be a conservative, but he's not. More conservative than Clinton ever would be, (either Clinton), but it felt like our choices were between Harrison Ford or Lady Gaga for President.

Another way of thinking of it.

Labour want to give everything away to the poor. Benefits, get rid of student fees, free
OAP care, nationalise the railways, build houses for poor, tax tax and tax the rich to
pay for it. etc and bankrupt us in the process. Labour also want to cut the military and
get rid of the nuclear defence deterrent. (Not that everything they want is bad,
some is good).

Conservative (also called Tories) want all the scrounging poor to work even for a pittance.
They want to sanction people who can't find work, make everyone pay for everything,
cut benefits and pensions. Get more people to pay for own health care. Give big tax
incentives to the rich and encourage business. (They like playing Scrooge but again not
everything is bad).

Then there are the liberals, they call themselves liberals but it has nothing to do with
policy it's just their name. No one knows what they want they have never been in
power independantly. They did form a coalition government with conservatives at one
point. But all they seem interested in doing is trying to change the voting system in their
favour. In the hope one day they will make it big.

None of the above have any connection to religion. So in that senses none are liberal
or traditional in regards to past values and God.

In the past I have voted Labour, but this time I just could not vote for someone
so contrary as Corbyn, he seemed to change his mind from one day to the next.
Plus we really do not need someone who will not bankrupt the county in the middle of
Brexit. He only got as many votes as he did because he said he would cancel all student
fees. So all the students voted for him - poor deluded souls!

He didnt say where the money was going to come from to pay for all the fees.
Plus in the UK, students don't have to start paying back their student loan until they
are earning over £21,000. So if they never get a decent job, they never have to pay
it back. Plus when they do start to pay it back, it's only something like £30 a month
if that! They probably spend more on beer each month than that. So really there was
no reason to cancel all student fees. But the students thought he was the best thing
since sliced bread.

Thats why I don't like Corbyn, I like people who are straight, not conniving trying to get
the popular vote in sly roundabout ways. If 5 year olds could vote he would have
offered them free lollipops just to get their vote.

Oh and there was another massive issue, it came out that some students got two votes,
one in their home town and another in their university town. A petition was started
asking for an investigation.


https://www.theguardian.com/politic...udents-backing-labour-corbyn-general-election


Nigel Farage says Labour excelled at General Election because students voted twice | UK | News | Express.co.uk


https://www.change.org/p/uk-electoral-commission-general-election-fraud-2017?recruiter=47114183&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=autopublish&utm_term=autopublish&utm_content=nafta_share_post_title_en_2%3Acontrol
 
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I figured I'll never remember your two parties. I just won't. It's to the point I'm thinking, "Labors and Conservatives? Then who are those Tories you guys keep talking about?" :confused:

That's why I went with party platform instead of party names -- figuring you won't remember our names any better than I'll remember yours.

How's this?
Pharisees = conservatives. (They want to keep the old ways strictly.)
Sadducee = liberals. (They want the best for others, as long as it doesn't cost them anything.)

So, you're saying Tony Blair was supposed to be a liberal, but ended up being a conservative? Interesting, since he's the last leader you had that I honestly liked. (We haven't needed help from you guys since him, so haven't kept up.)

Trump is supposed to be a conservative, but he's not. More conservative than Clinton ever would be, (either Clinton), but it felt like our choices were between Harrison Ford or Lady Gaga for President.
Ha ha here's how I remember the major Parties of the Brits
You have the Tories, they are the typical conservative hypocrites
Then you have Labour, and they are all socialists
Then you have the feckless Social Democrats
And then there is the gallant but weak SNP
That got the right idea but are pigeonholed on Scot identity
Finally there is the only party worth a ship
And that is without a doubt the noble house of UKIP
But the Tories and Labour spread propaganda that UKIP is racist and daft
And that is simply not true, UKIP just wants to kick out the worshippers of Allah
If you want to see the real Brit Isle racists have look over at Sinn Fein saying "Tiocfaidh ár lá"
 
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Ha ha here's how I remember the major Parties of the Brits
You have the Tories, they are the typical conservative hypocrites
Then you have Labour, and they are all socialists
Then you have the feckless Social Democrats
And then there is the gallant but weak SNP
That got the right idea but are pigeonholed on Scot identity
Finally there is the only party worth a ship
And that is without a doubt the noble house of UKIP
But the Tories and Labour spread propaganda that UKIP is racist and daft
And that is simply not true, UKIP just wants to kick out the worshippers of Allah
If you want to see the real Brit Isle racists have look over at Sinn Fein saying "Tiocfaidh ár lá"
You got it! Lol
 
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Well. Your political parties area naturally different to ours despite some similar sounding names. I do find that the last few years in the UK we seem to hear more about if the USA leader (whoever he or she is at the time) sneezes or coughs then what comes on our news about important issues of our country. At one time during Brexit it was surreal. We had the important issues ofBrexit to decide here and plastered across our news taking most of the air time were reports of what Hilary or Donald said and this was ages and ages away from your election vote. One would have thought your vote was the very next day, but no,almost day in day out it was on the UK news at the time we were trying to find info on the UK happenings.
The queen could have had another baby back then and we would get the USA news predicting their election results almost a year before your election!
Weird or what!
Regarding parties over there I really dont know a lot as it doss not relate to us in a form that is relevant to the UK except to know who got in. (I don't know what party Hillary or Donald are in other then they were and are in competition. I do find it wrong from our point of view when one hears personal insults back and fore with nothing to do with policies. It just is very child like to us and is not politics.
Yeah, sorry about that. Although, now I know the propaganda machine works outside our borders almost as much as inside. Our media is our propaganda machine. We're still stuck listening day in and day out on how Trump should be impeached, despite two obvious problems with that:
1. He's done nothing to be impeached for.
2. We've impeached two Presidents, so far. Both kept being President after the impeachment, so why bother worrying about impeaching?

Worse than the days when some "soccer" player from your country moved to our country with his girl-band wife. (Oh, come on now! Please tell me your news doesn't still follow David Beckham, right? lol Just joking with you.)