Trump could win all 50 states

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Galahad

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Great point Galahad. The more I watch him the more it becomes apparent that he has very Statesman like qualities. IMO.....something sorely lacking in our "leaders".
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Our leaders are weak men. Self serving. Statesman - his concern is the state of the State. That includes a knowledge of how people feel. Are they hopeful. Do they feel safe? Do people feel united? Trump is tuned in to those things. He knows the answer is NO to each of those. He steps forward and reminds Americans and the world what America once was. He exhumes strength and confidence. Statesman for sure.

(On a side note. Bush: Trump's been a liberal in the last decade longer than he's been a conservative.
Well, lots of people have been unsaved sinners in the last decade longer than they've been saved. Does that make them any less saved. Not only is Trump smart, but the majority of candidates he's up against and will be are just too distant from the heart of Americans. They want the title President of the United States. They don't want the office, the work, the servitude behind it.)
 
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I highlight those first two sentences because you have unwittingly do the exact same thing with this post. Additionally, it applies to every Trump supporter on here. There is nothing biased or or disdainful in investigating Trump, as I have, and posted a lot of what I've found in the post to which your responded. Yes, those facts have caused me to form an opinion that is negative toward Trump. But you and others don't seem to be able to deal with those facts, instead choosing to make accusations toward me, the one who did the research you haven't done. If you had, you'd reach the same conclusions I have instead of ...
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Would you have selected Saul to be an apostle of the church after what he did to the church as a Pharisee (a murder). When Paul was converted, he said he did it out of ignorance. Would you have bought that? Use the same reasoning and investigation that you have used here with Trump. You would have not only outright rejected him according to your premise, but you would have warned others to stay clear of him because he could not be trusted and you would have been dead wrong even though you had the evidence to prove it.

How would you have handled Peter, who denied and cursed the Lord three times forsaking him at the cross and going back to his fishing boat? Was he qualified to be an apostle?
 
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CNN called Trump's speech meandering.....I for one thought it was a refreshing change from polished speeches prepared for polished politicians for a polished delivery. Trump is single handedly exposing the turd beneath the polished exterior that is Washington DC and its current inhabitants. I thought his speech was great. How many of you watched?
 
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I did. CNN is right. It bordered on rambling at times. And yet again, as usual, nothing substantive. I'm not sure we watched the same speech, Sirk. That undoubtedly did him more harm than good. You can't string 157 nine-second soundbites together and expect it to be called "inspiring."

Filling half the seats in a 40,000-seat stadium doesn't add up to the 40,000 fans he said had reserved spots for the speech, either. So either he lied, or his numbers are fading. Maybe both. It isn't just me, either.

A rambling Trump rallies faithful, jabs rivals

Trump features Sessions in rambling Alabama speech

MOBILE, Ala. — How could a presidential candidate turn the largest crowd of the Republican contest so far into a turnout that didn't quite live up to expectations? That's what Donald Trump did with his Friday night speech in Mobile, Ala.

Trump had predicted up to 40,000 people would fill Ladd-Peebles Stadium. That would have been huge, had it happened. As it was, filling about half the stadium was huge, too — extremely impressive by any standard, except Trump's own.

How did Trump do? He gave what is now his trademark speech, which means it was a long stream of consciousness address incorporating all sorts of extraneous information about his business dealings but also connecting with audiences, both in the stadium and on television, with his outsider's message on immigration and trade. And all in Trump's distinctive style.
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Which is to say, "rambling and disjointed."

Those are conservatives writing those headlines and articles, too. Then again, Trump isn't a conservative, he's a progressive. He ought to be challenging Hillary. But he's good friends with her, so he's probably a false-flag candidate meant to give her the White House.
 
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I did. CNN is right. It bordered on rambling at times. And yet again, as usual, nothing substantive. I'm not sure we watched the same speech, Sirk. That undoubtedly did him more harm than good. You can't string 157 nine-second soundbites together and expect it to be called "inspiring."

Filling half the seats in a 40,000-seat stadium doesn't add up to the 40,000 fans he said had reserved spots for the speech, either. So either he lied, or his numbers are fading. Maybe both. It isn't just me, either.

A rambling Trump rallies faithful, jabs rivals

Which is to say, "rambling and disjointed."

Those are conservatives writing those headlines and articles, too. Then again, Trump isn't a conservative, he's a progressive. He ought to be challenging Hillary. But he's good friends with her, so he's probably a false-flag candidate meant to give her the White House.
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I would rather have it straight from the heart than some prepared speech writer speech any day of the week. Besides...I don't think you say that your friends should be in prison.
 
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I would rather have it straight from the heart than some prepared speech writer speech any day of the week. Besides...I don't think you say that your friends should be in prison.
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Why not? If he is a Hillary shill, it's a **wink-wink-nudge-nudge**-"We-both-know-it's-all-in-good-fun-to-get-you-elected" kinda thing. She had to have some plan in place, because she knew "Emailgate" was gonna blow up in her face. Only way to win is stall the criminal process and split the GOP so the stupid electorate will put her in the White House.

You don't think she's above letting him insult her to split the party down the middle, you don't know how conniving, underhanded, and criminal the ol' girl really is. Cut from the same cloth as Bill. Might even be the real "power behind the throne" in that family. Probably is the one who actually served as president '93-'01.
 
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93-'01.Why not? If he is a Hillary shill, it's a **wink-wink-nudge-nudge**-"We-both-know-it's-all-in-good-fun-to-get-you-elected" kinda thing. She had to have some plan in place, because she knew "Emailgate" was gonna blow up in her face. Only way to win is stall the criminal process and split the GOP so the stupid electorate will put her in the White House.

You don't think she's above letting him insult her to split the party down the middle, you don't know how conniving, underhanded, and criminal the ol' girl really is. Cut from the same cloth as Bill. Might even be the real "power behind the throne" in that family. Probably is the one who actually served as president '93-'01.
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Have you seen her? She is lost in space man. She has totally lost control of this thing. And it's looking like more and more conservatives are getting behind Trump. Doesn't look like a split party to me...looks like Rhino's are starting to read the tea leaves as Trump shows them what Rush Limbaugh has been saying for years....standing on conservative principles gets conservatives elected.

Watch for Hillary to come out as a lez.
 
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Trump's call to end abuse of US birthright citizenship divides GOP field, legal experts

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump’s call to end birthright citizenship for children of illegal immigrants has refueled the immigration debate and spilt the GOP field and legal experts who question whether such a change is possible.

Trump’s plan goes after the 14th amendment ... is particularly focused on stopping pregnant women from illegally crossing the U.S.-Mexico border for the purpose of having a child or an “anchor baby” ...

Trump announced his plan Sunday, calling the amendment the country’s “biggest magnet for illegal immigration.” And he continues to suggest that his lawyers think the amendment might not withstand a court challenge.

However, other candidates and legal experts are split on the issue

“Trump thinks ‘our country is going to hell.’ Well, there is likely little more than a chance in hell that we are going to amend the Constitution,” Jessica Levinson, a law professor at Loyola University of Los Angeles, said Wednesday. “Amending the Constitution is one of the most serious things that lawmakers can do. Therefore the path to doing it is rightfully arduous. I would put the chances … as beyond a longshot."
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I don't care what Trump's lawyers tell him, he's a damn fool. There is no way the language of the Fourteenth Amendment, along with the multitude of Supreme Court decisions refusing to interpret it any other way that how it is worded, can be abrogated. He will have to repeal the Fourteenth Amendment, and there's is less than a snowball's chance in hell that will happen.

Sirk, you continue to fawn over this imbecile as though he's some sort of God-send. He's a moron. He hasn't laid one frickin' solid plan of action on anything, and you and others who think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread can seem to grasp that, just like Obama, "the Emperor has no clothes." He spouts crap and you think it's brie. He spews b/s, and you think it's port. He says absolutely nothing of substance or value, and you think it's The Ilyad.

You are too smart, too educated, too well-informed to be taken in by this swill, but if you want to continue to swoon over it, I'm just going to have to stop reading your posts. It makes me sick to see this clown deceive so many smart people.

I'm done here.
 
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This clown is deceiving people just like the Bushes have deceived people. There is nothing new under the Sun.
 
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When the media starts digging into this Trump will implode.
 
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Remember how they elect the President? It is not by popular vote. It is by the Electoral College. And it is 2 party. Clinton or Bush or Biden will get it if there is an election, but that is 'if there is an election.' Also, remember what the title of the President is, he is the Commander-in-Chief of the Military. How many Military personnel are outside of the United States and vote mail-in. Which candidate has the most clout with the Military?
 
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Remember how they elect the President? It is not by popular vote. It is by the Electoral College. And it is 2 party. Clinton or Bush or Biden will get it if there is an election, but that is 'if there is an election.' Also, remember what the title of the President is, he is the Commander-in-Chief of the Military. How many Military personnel are outside of the United States and vote mail-in. Which candidate has the most clout with the Military?
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Good question. What is Trumps military experience? Let's not have another Clinton or Obama leading the military.

Trump came of age for the draft during the Vietnam War. In an interview in 2011 on New York station WNYW,[SUP][30][/SUP] he stated, "I actually got lucky because I had a very high draft number."[SUP][31][/SUP] Selective Service records retrieved by The Smoking Gun website from the National Archives show that, although Trump did eventually receive a high selective service lottery number, he was not drafted earlier because of his student deferments (2-S) while attending college, and after receiving a medical deferment (1-Y, later converted to 4-F) prior to the lottery being initiated.[SUP][32] Wikipedia[/SUP]
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Good question. What is Trumps military experience? Let's not have another Clinton or Obama leading the military.
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Unfortunately, very few of our Presidential candidates have any experience regarding foreign or military affairs.

Rick Perry probably has the most, but his pitiful performance in the debate and almost whiny attack on Trump just made him look weak.

I say this with sadness. At the end of the day, I think Perry-Jindal would be my dream ticket. Unfortunately, political reality is making me reconsider these options.
 
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Would you have selected Saul to be an apostle of the church after what he did to the church as a Pharisee (a murder). When Paul was converted, he said he did it out of ignorance. Would you have bought that? Use the same reasoning and investigation that you have used here with Trump. You would have not only outright rejected him according to your premise, but you would have warned others to stay clear of him because he could not be trusted and you would have been dead wrong even though you had the evidence to prove it.

How would you have handled Peter, who denied and cursed the Lord three times forsaking him at the cross and going back to his fishing boat? Was he qualified to be an apostle?
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Oh how quick we forget fundamental morals illustrated by the lives of our own inspired ancestors of the faith, who are examples for us today. One of the largest yet most under discussed themes in Scripture is there's usually more than the eye can readily see, esp concerning people.
 
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Why has Trump, a businessman, not mentioned the government doing business? Our government forces taxes, fines, and imprisons, when he could end it. He knows business. Is he keeping it secret for himself?
 
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I did. CNN is right. It bordered on rambling at times. And yet again, as usual, nothing substantive. I'm not sure we watched the same speech, Sirk. That undoubtedly did him more harm than good. You can't string 157 nine-second soundbites together and expect it to be called "inspiring."

Filling half the seats in a 40,000-seat stadium doesn't add up to the 40,000 fans he said had reserved spots for the speech, either. So either he lied, or his numbers are fading. Maybe both. It isn't just me, either.

A rambling Trump rallies faithful, jabs rivals

Which is to say, "rambling and disjointed."

Those are conservatives writing those headlines and articles, too. Then again, Trump isn't a conservative, he's a progressive. He ought to be challenging Hillary. But he's good friends with her, so he's probably a false-flag candidate meant to give her the White House.
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Trump has a rally and gives his rally cry, the people love it, and some of you can't wait to criticize and mock him. Does it make you feel good and intellectually superior?
 
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Trump has a rally and gives his rally cry ...
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A rally cry isn't a platform. Talking points are not an action plan. Thus far, that's all I've heard out of him.

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... the people love it ...,
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Not as many as he thought would "love it," since only about half of his preannounced crowd of 40,000 actually showed up.

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... and some of you can't wait to criticize and mock him.
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If telling the truth without wearing rose-colored glasses is "criticizing and mocking" I guess I'll just have to live with that.

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Does it make you feel good and intellectually superior?
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I'm not the one mistaking a Progressive, near Liberal, for a Conservative. I'm not the one hearing nine-second soundbites and hearing the Declaration of Independence. I'm not the one supporting a billionaire whose suit is almost as empty as the one the guy in the White House now wears.
 
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I'm not the one mistaking a Progressive, near Liberal, for a Conservative. I'm not the one hearing nine-second soundbites and hearing the Declaration of Independence. I'm not the one supporting a billionaire whose suit is almost as empty as the one the guy in the White House now wears.
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I am not entirely against Trump. He's taking a party dominated by the Chamber of Commerce and showing it what a real man can do.

But I cannot help but stand with you on this one, VW. Nobody in this race has what I would describe as perfect conservative credentials, even the vaunted Ben Carson who once identified as a liberal democrat and studied the remains of aborted fetuses.

Carson had his Damascus Road experience if you will and I trust it was an experience long before he decided to act on political aspirations. I can say the same of Ted Cruz. I can (maybe) also say the same of Fiorina.

Perry, Jindal, Carson, Fiorina, Cruz, and Walker. I would trust all of them with the reins before I would hand them to Trump. Here's the thing though- Trump is taking the reins. He's acting like a free man in an America that has forgotten freedom and his fellow Americans are taking notice.

No, a rallying cry is not a platform...but it is still politically potent. It is something needed. If nobody else is willing to truly follow suit, then they deserve to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

I don't think that will happen, though. Out of 16 other candidates, someone, I sense, is catching on. He's just waiting for the right moment to strike.
 
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On the same token, we still have a while. Maybe Trump deserves conservative support if he can show sincerity and a love for small government behind the sound and the fury.
 
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