Trump could win all 50 states

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Angela53510

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1. He can't deport en masse 11 to 30 million illegals. Each deportation requires an immigration court hearing. It will be a logistical nightmare, and it will take years if not decades.

2. He can't revoke the citizenship of the so-called "anchor babies." The Fourteenth Amendment, like it or not, is what makes them citizens. Are we going to repeal the Fourteenth?

3. If we build a wall, they'll come in by sea. If we blockade the costs, they'll come in by air. If we institute a "no-fly" zone at the borders and beaches, they'll start coming in through Canada. We can't stop them from coming in. We can only deport them immediately upon their being discovered, and to be effective we have to get serious about enforcement and apprehension.
We have had immigrants sneaking into Canada for years from the US. Not Americans, of course - Chinese, Vietnamese mainly. So the infrastructure is there! Some amazing tunnels under the border, esp. from BC to Washington, but maybe in the east, too!

They find them, fill them in, then bunch of others are built.

Enjoy the Northern Railway, my American friends! LOL
 
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Can anyone give me some info on what Donald Trumps policies are? I know he is anti immigration but apart from that I have know idea. I would be particulary interested in his foreign policy and whether I should start building a fallout shelter!!
He's not anti-immigration. (The disadvantages of thinking the News actually tells "the news." lol) He's anti-illegal-Mexicans-flooding-our-country. Big difference if you understand what's happening in Mexico today.

You know "the drug cartels?" Want to know why they thrive in Mexico? They are politicians number one source of income all the way to the top -- the President of Mexico. If you have a son, you have two choices in life -- let him get involved in the drug business (best employer in Mexico) or watch him get killed by the drug business. If you have another son? Same deal. (They come straight to the families and tell them that's their choice too. It's not like their son is walking down the wrong street one day, and accidentally...) People are literally handing over their boys at a young age to get into that business. It doesn't phase them because chances are good they've been making their livings in that business.

Want to know why lemons are so high in the States? Same deal. They come from Mexico. There's a lemon cartel. The big farms are hijacking trucks with non-cartel lemons on them, and tossing those lemons to rot on the road. That way they set the prices for lemons.

So what are the ladies doing? Usually raising their great-grandkids, but it's not like they're too old to raise them. Many of the girls are prostituted by the time they're ten. Many are pregnant or already have their first baby by the time they're 14. Grandma's in her upper 20's, if she's still alive, and still working the job. Great-grandma, if she is still alive, is too old by then. They're warn out, being in their 30's and 40's now.

Too many girls, so they ship them off to the States and either sell them as domestic slaves or sexual slaves, or they "rent" them for sex.

Too many boys too, so they're sent to the States to use them for marketing -- drugs or slaves -- depending on the saturation rate of any given area in this country.

It's not the rich Mexicans wanting to immigrate. It's the poor one. And many of them aren't sneaking over to work. Most of them are kidnapped to come over to be slaves.

Remember last summer all those kids flooding our country? Most of them were forced here to sell their bodies or drugs. This is the thing the "news" doesn't like to talk about. We are a fruitful market for their product or service.

So, really? He's not against immigration. He's willing to fight the war most don't even know is happening already. You know those "new breed of gangs" hitting Omaha, Des Moines, and other semi-large cities in our country? You just met who they really are. They've started this marketing plan and have been carrying it out for decades now. The market isn't saturated yet.
 
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I just hope Trump is the real deal. As a former democrat and Clinton supporter Trump has me a little concerned. I really wonder what he's after.
The same thing most Presidents lately are after -- the glory of being POTUS.
 
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People have said that since Trump has had 4 bankruptcies he is not the right guy for the job of potus. It occurred to me that in reality....it makes him uniquely suited to manage the bankruptcy that is coming for the U.S.
 

ArtsieSteph

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I don't like him, and I feel if he gets elected everyone will just stomp him verbally
 
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BradC

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I'd be interested in knowing what information you base that opinion on.

If it's real, absolutely. What proof is there prior to the last three months that it's real?

So far he has suggested a healthcare program that costs about the same as Obamacare, he won't revise the tax code to make the system fair and equitable, and his debt reduction program is not only non-existent, he hasn't even really said he would do that.

For something to be "orthodox" or "unorthodox" it has to be a known quantity. Trump has nothing out there to tell us what, exactly that approach would be, much less to know if it is orthodox or not.

He meets the three constitutional requirements, true. Honest? He's going to court in New York for running a sham "real estate school." Integrity? Covered that with the lawsuit. Passion? For himself, no doubt. Heart? Can't know that for certain, because he's mostly loud and bombastic, not typical traits of a man described as having "heart." Willingness to serve our best interests? I'm pretty certain his lengthy history in business and entertainment shows he's only willing to serve Donald Trump's interests.
I suppose you have the same kind of things to say about Ben Carson or does a man with purity of heart have a different effect upon you? Your disdain for Donald Trump is obvious and perhaps reveals something of your own heart. Think what you want and we will have to see just what happens all the way to the primary. I would like to know, in your own eyes, what you think of Hillary Clinton and all of her shenanigans and don't forget the Whitewater Real Estate Development scandal.
 
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People have said that since Trump has had 4 bankruptcies he is not the right guy for the job of potus. It occurred to me that in reality....it makes him uniquely suited to manage the bankruptcy that is coming for the U.S.
I'm not into under-handed, particularly in a President. (Haven't we had enough of that already?) Ever notice when Trump goes bankrupt? Right before a divorce. And when they divorce is over, he has enough to build or buy another casino or skyscraper.

I know we were programmed to believe that morality doesn't matter in a President, but it really does.
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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I suppose you have the same kind of things to say about Ben Carson or does a man with purity of heart have a different effect upon you?
Actually, I've been looking at Ben Carson as a possible presidential candidate for over two years. I never dreamed Trump would be a candidate, so my knowledge of his past is developing each day. Of all the things I've read about Ben Carson, the only troubling thing is his past use of fetal tissue for neuro-research, but I also believe him when he says he didn't acquire it, certainly didn't pay for it, and has had the opportunity to rethink what he would do if presented again with the same situation.

I don't blindly follow anyone, and particularly not any mere man. Trump followers have had essentially the same amount to time to examine their candidate's past as I have, perhaps a bit longer given you might have expected him to run. Given that, and given what I've found out about him since June, it is somewhat puzzling that he gets a pass for:

... among other things. The willingness of the Trump supporter to ignore the fact Trump's ideology at virtually no point merges with their conservative views, and in fact in most instances opposes those views, is nothing less than baffling.

Your disdain for Donald Trump is obvious and perhaps reveals something of your own heart.
What it reveals is not about my heart, but about my brain. I've taken the time to look behind his nine-second-soundbite-rhetoric and find out who he really is, something the vast majority of his supporters haven't bothered to do, being so enamored by his ability to know what people want to hear, and say it, without having any actual ideological connection to the words.

Think what you want and we will have to see just what happens all the way to the primary.
We won't have to wait that long. Most of the people supporting him are going to get tired of nine-second soundbites and wonder when he's actually going to say something about what he will do. Since he won't ever actually say anything about that, they'll drift away and find someone who actually believes like they do.

I would like to know, in your own eyes, what you think of Hillary Clinton and all of her shenanigans and don't forget the Whitewater Real Estate Development scandal.
You're not new around here. You know what I think. If you don't, stroll through the News Forum and look at who started the vast majority of ant-Hillary threads.
 
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I don't like him, and I feel if he gets elected everyone will just stomp him verbally
He's unelectable. Again, the worst thing that can happen is he splits the ticket.
 
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BradC

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Actually, I've been looking at Ben Carson as a possible presidential candidate for over two years. I never dreamed Trump would be a candidate, so my knowledge of his past is developing each day. Of all the things I've read about Ben Carson, the only troubling thing is his past use of fetal tissue for neuro-research, but I also believe him when he says he didn't acquire it, certainly didn't pay for it, and has had the opportunity to rethink what he would do if presented again with the same situation.

I don't blindly follow anyone, and particularly not any mere man. Trump followers have had essentially the same amount to time to examine their candidate's past as I have, perhaps a bit longer given you might have expected him to run. Given that, and given what I've found out about him since June, it is somewhat puzzling that he gets a pass for:

... among other things. The willingness of the Trump supporter to ignore the fact Trump's ideology at virtually no point merges with their conservative views, and in fact in most instances opposes those views, is nothing less than baffling.

What it reveals is not about my heart, but about my brain. I've taken the time to look behind his nine-second-soundbite-rhetoric and find out who he really is, something the vast majority of his supporters haven't bothered to do, being so enamored by his ability to know what people want to hear, and say it, without having any actual ideological connection to the words.

We won't have to wait that long. Most of the people supporting him are going to get tired of nine-second soundbites and wonder when he's actually going to say something about what he will do. Since he won't ever actually say anything about that, they'll drift away and find someone who actually believes like they do.

You're not new around here. You know what I think. If you don't, stroll through the News Forum and look at who started the vast majority of ant-Hillary threads.
In some things you have been very presumptuous and in other things you have not been a good hearer. Some refuse to hear because they are not interested in what some have to say. They have already preconditioned their response, investigated with a bias bent and written certain candidates off because they have a personality clash and disdain for certain acquisitions in life. I am sure that you applauded Megan Kelly on the first Fox Presidential Debate when when she put him on the spot with a very subjective question she designed specifically for women voters with some remarks he made. What that had to do with the debate for the highest office in the land is beyond me and revealed something about MK that I was not aware.
 
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In some things you have been very presumptuous and in other things you have not been a good hearer. Some refuse to hear because they are not interested in what some have to say. They have already preconditioned their response, investigated with a bias bent and written certain candidates off because they have a personality clash and disdain for certain acquisitions in life. I am sure that you applauded Megan Kelly on the first Fox Presidential Debate when when she put him on the spot with a very subjective question she designed specifically for women voters with some remarks he made. What that had to do with the debate for the highest office in the land is beyond me and revealed something about MK that I was not aware.
Don't knock it. Romney was defeated because he had files on women -- to hire them. But the media played it in just the right way. Amazing what the media can do with a sound bite, and how many people fall for it.
 
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Don't knock it. Romney was defeated because he had files on women -- to hire them. But the media played it in just the right way. Amazing what the media can do with a sound bite, and how many people fall for it.

Trump has an uncanny ability to go....Yup, it's true....next question. Lol
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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In some things you have been very presumptuous and in other things you have not been a good hearer. Some refuse to hear because they are not interested in what some have to say. They have already preconditioned their response, investigated with a bias bent and written certain candidates off because they have a personality clash and disdain for certain acquisitions in life. I am sure that you applauded Megan Kelly on the first Fox Presidential Debate when when she put him on the spot with a very subjective question she designed specifically for women voters with some remarks he made. What that had to do with the debate for the highest office in the land is beyond me and revealed something about MK that I was not aware.
I highlight those first two sentences because you have unwittingly do the exact same thing with this post. Additionally, it applies to every Trump supporter on here. There is nothing biased or or disdainful in investigating Trump, as I have, and posted a lot of what I've found in the post to which your responded. Yes, those facts have caused me to form an opinion that is negative toward Trump. But you and others don't seem to be able to deal with those facts, instead choosing to make accusations toward me, the one who did the research you haven't done. If you had, you'd reach the same conclusions I have instead of ...

 
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Galahad

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I just hope Trump is the real deal. As a former democrat and Clinton supporter Trump has me a little concerned. I really wonder what he's after.
I understand your concern if he's the real deal. Remember, Macy's stopped selling Trump brand of clothing. The company feared being associated with Trump. Other companies and business entities disassociated themselves from Trump. Those with drawls cost Trump a lot of money.

But Trump didn't change his tune. Nope. He continued on. Didn't change a bit. Wasn't swayed.

Now, if he's willing to lose millions from the get go, and still repeat the same costly statements and stand behind them, I tend to believe he means what he says.
 
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I understand your concern if he's the real deal. Remember, Macy's stopped selling Trump brand of clothing. The company feared being associated with Trump. Other companies as business entities disassociated themselves from Trump. Those cost Trump a lot of money.

But Trump didn't change his tune. Nope. He continued on. Didn't change a bit. Wasn't swayed.

Now, if he's willing to lose millions from the get go, I tend to believe he means what he says.
Great point Galahad. The more I watch him the more it becomes apparent that he has very Statesman like qualities. IMO.....something sorely lacking in our "leaders".