Trump emerges unscathed as the the media attempts to demonize him

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WoundedWarrior

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Your out to lunch
, no man can change anything and the political field is a mere puppet show to make you feel like something is being done...IT WILL NEVER CHANGE , ESPECIALLY SOME RICH ARROGANT ASSHOLE.

'Its harder for a rich man to make it to heaven then thread a camel through the eye of a needle " is how it goes I believe,

SO tell me how is he or anyone going to bring change , to a system designed so most suffer and not prosper

you will be hard pressed to find a genuine Man Of God in politics as its all lies and scams.

I can go on and on , Look to God Not MAN , When you do the rest doesn't matter...Everything has a course to Run ....
This could be fun guys...

Trump will bring change because he is a businessman -- capable of running the business of the US government.

(I'm only kidding)

Good words, CasS22 -- Look to God, not man. No one here will argue with you on that!
 
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Your out to lunch
, no man can change anything and the political field is a mere puppet show to make you feel like something is being done...IT WILL NEVER CHANGE , ESPECIALLY SOME RICH ARROGANT ASSHOLE.

'Its harder for a rich man to make it to heaven then thread a camel through the eye of a needle " is how it goes I believe,

SO tell me how is he or anyone going to bring change , to a system designed so most suffer and not prosper

you will be hard pressed to find a genuine Man Of God in politics as its all lies and scams.

I can go on and on , Look to God Not MAN , When you do the rest doesn't matter...Everything has a course to Run ....

Better tame down the language or you'll find yourself banned,just friendly advice.The problem is that the US was founded on Christian principles and as a Republic which means laws are set not on popular opinion but on what is right based on Judeo/Christian values.Liberal left has pulled the country into the gutter.The gov't is "we the people" not "we the politicians".But the people set down and let the gov't take over and now there is corruption everywhere.I disagree that it cant be changed.People like Huckabee,who were pastors,want to bring the country back to the middle again.I think Cruz feels the same way.People need to vote for what they want not sit by and let 3% of the population run the country.People are so bred to be PC these days that we are swallowing whole camels while straining at gnats.People need to wake up we can change this country and come back to God again.
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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... Look to God Not MAN ...
Great advice. Too bad it comes from a guy who just four lines before managed to insert a classic seven-letter epithet into his post.

Also, does it occur to you that Paul states unequivocally that God placed government authority over us? That being the case, doesn't it behoove us to pay attention to what kind of government we elect? Just sayin' ...
 
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This could be fun guys...

Trump will bring change because he is a businessman -- capable of running the business of the US government.

(I'm only kidding)

Good words, CasS22 -- Look to God, not man. No one here will argue with you on that!
Except for the out to lunch part. Not a very "a kind word turns away wrath" kind of post. I suppose we all possess some concealed irony in our perspectives and lives.
 
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Your apparent desire to reject, even undermine, conservative thought truly clouds your ability to analyze a situation sometimes, GiS. How is "the GOPers want that Kool-Aid" when only 20% of them support him? And this?

While I agree the GOP having a dual majority in the legislative houses of the land could result in a bill that outlaws abortion, have you forgotten who's in the White House? They don't have a veto majority, just a simple majority. The bill would never become law, and the effort would be a massive waste of time since abortion isn't the first and foremost issue we need to address in Congress right now.
Lol how many times must I insist I am not a conservative or liberal, GOPer or Democrat, but am thoroughly outside that paradigm.

In know how you're a pretty stock GOPer and thus are accounted for all ready. You will vote for the GOP nominee no matter who it is in order to beat Hillary, except maybe Trump. Lol that's okay though for here we have common cause, for unfortunately one fifth of your GOP party seems to have gone and made Trump frontrunner (that Konservative Kool-Aid!) If Trump were to be nominee, indeed I as independent king and you as a Knight of the Old Republic would both effectively lose our control of the Republican Party, which is half of our government. This is GOPocalypse for you if Trump wins because it'll tear the party apart. Plus on top of that then you got Hillary.

As for the GOP's inaction on abortion. I give them some leeway for Obama being President, but that is no excuse, because it wasn't just yesterday that I noticed their trend of talking big on abortion and doing little. They had a good chance in the 2000s I remember. GOP has had several chances since a certain generation that existed before mine decided to give us that problem. It's a big topic for them to talk about and score political points with the base in the primary season, but after the show nothing happens. I've seen this song and dance too many times before to really buy into it.
 
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crossnote

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The government is charged with governance, not biblical morality. It does us little good to ban all abortions if we haven't got enough money to keep the government running so it can establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to the people and their posterity. In this life we never get any of that in abundance, but what we have is the best we can do.

Unfortunately, practicality often trumps the objectives of a people desirous of glorifying God. It shouldn't, but it does. Do you know how long it took Zerubbubel to rebuild the Temple? Certainly God and His people wanted Him to be glorified through that project, but the practicality of safety, security, and proper defense clouded their ability to 1) depend solely on God, and 2) seek His will and do His work.

Our problem as a nation is that most, even the believers, don't trust in God, count on Him to provide, and give them wise counsel. If we did, we would already see God reigning in His Temple on Earth. Since we don't, we persevere, and wait for His Perfection to take up residence among us. Then there will be no sin, no tears, no shame. Now, we have them all in great abundance, not just because of our disobedience, not just because as individuals we fail, but because of humanity as a whole.

When "every knee will bow, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord," then we will have perfection. Not before.
Biblical morality???
We are talking LIFE. Gen 8 makes clear the duty of all human government. Abortion is national suicide...period.
Perhaps we don't have the $$$ because we run contrary to the Owners manual in the very basic fundamentals.
God's common grace is practically gone for this country , so now we are to make twice as many bricks with half the straw...is that how it works?
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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Biblical morality???
We are talking LIFE. Gen 8 makes clear the duty of all human government. Abortion is national suicide...period.
You're absolutely right, but note that you cited a biblical passage to support your point.

Perhaps we don't have the $$$ because we run contrary to the Owners manual in the very basic fundamentals.
That was my point exactly, Cross. As a whole, humanity has run afoul of God, pays Him no heed, cares nothing for His judgment -- at least, they won't until He delivers it.

God's common grace is practically gone for this country , so now we are to make twice as many bricks with half the straw...is that how it works?
That's the way a fallen world works, isn't it? Who is the God of this world, Cross? Remember? We're not citizens here, but sojourners from another, better country. Our Leader has already conquered but the world has not capitulated. Until then, it remains fallen.
 
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Biblical morality???
We are talking LIFE. Gen 8 makes clear the duty of all human government. Abortion is national suicide...period.
Perhaps we don't have the $$$ because we run contrary to the Owners manual in the very basic fundamentals.
God's common grace is practically gone for this country , so now we are to make twice as many bricks with half the straw...is that how it works?
Sound science will be abortions undoing. The abortionists are diligently trying to conceal the evidence already in...that life begins at conception.
 
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Biblical morality???
We are talking LIFE. Gen 8 makes clear the duty of all human government. Abortion is national suicide...period.
Perhaps we don't have the $$$ because we run contrary to the Owners manual in the very basic fundamentals.
God's common grace is practically gone for this country , so now we are to make twice as many bricks with half the straw...is that how it works?
Yea I agree but then by the law of America, and as Vili made a point of, we have to follow their laws until America ceases to exist. Abortion battle can't be won by government means. Frankly the government has pretty much made the abortion issue worse the more in intervenes. This issue has to be stopped at the more individual level. If you look too the more non-governmental ways to tackle this issue they are even more effective. Consider those videos exposing the depths of the corruption of PP and how they are more effective than years of politicians pandering.
 

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"...and secure the blessings of liberty to the people and their posterity."

Posterity. ..that is what is being aborted.

The government is charged with governance, not biblical morality. It does us little good to ban all abortions if we haven't got enough money to keep the government running so it can establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to the people and their posterity. In this life we never get any of that in abundance, but what we have is the best we can do.
 
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The three most annoying people on earth are Kanye West, Miley Cyrus and Donald Trump
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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The three most annoying people on earth are Kanye West, Miley Cyrus and Donald Trump
Gotta say, with your posts it happens rarely, but I actually agree with this!
 
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Sirk

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What no one seems to be willing to recognize, is that God can use anyone He chooses to reveal truth.
 

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TaylorTG

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Donald Trump isn't some hermit from the deep forest, he's a billionaire businessman. A successful person, who has a solid and honest history.

I'm not deterred by Donald Trump's blusterous attitude, as we are only seeing one side of him. As a successful businessman, he should naturally have a sense of diplomacy. He wouldn't have scored deals with a variety of international companies and whatnot otherwise.

Trump's blusterous attitude reveals his ingrained zeal for American success. It doesn't necessarily reveal a high and mighty mindset. In these current times, things need to get done. Modesty and meekness, although valuable, is not entirely appropriate for the current times.

That's not say that Mr.Trump lacks modesty and meekness. It's just those two attributes are untimely in Trump's current profession and aimed profession.
 
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Donald Trump isn't some hermit from the deep forest, he's a billionaire businessman. A successful person, who has a solid and honest history.

I'm not deterred by Donald Trump's blusterous attitude, as we are only seeing one side of him. As a successful businessman, he should naturally have a sense of diplomacy. He wouldn't have scored deals with a variety of international companies and whatnot otherwise.

Trump's blusterous attitude reveals his ingrained zeal for American success. It doesn't necessarily reveal a high and mighty mindset. In these current times, things need to get done. Modesty and meekness, although valuable, is not entirely appropriate for the current times.

That's not say that Mr.Trump lacks modesty and meekness. It's just those two attributes are untimely in Trump's current profession and aimed profession.
I agree with some of this, except that we need someone like that as our President. Trump is good in his current position, but it's not good for the position he wants. Too much risk on that one. So Trump should just go back to doing what he is good at. I think it even be better for Trump himself. Businessmen and people like this are real strong-willed and independent. Being president forces a person to be in a box in many ways.