Trump emerges unscathed as the the media attempts to demonize him

[Viligant_Warrior]

Donald Trump isn't some hermit from the deep forest, he's a billionaire businessman. A successful person, who has a solid and honest history.

Yeah, that's why he was sued civilly in 2013 by the New York Attorney-General's office for consumer fraud.

I'm not deterred by Donald Trump's blusterous attitude, as we are only seeing one side of him.

His history over the years indicates that's the only side he's got.

As a successful businessman ...

Since when is taking a multibillion dollar corporation into Chapter 13 bankruptcy -- obliterating the debt but killing the company too -- equal to "success"?

he should naturally have a sense of diplomacy.

Not Trump. Any quick perusal of the Internet will turn up story after story of how he browbeats, threatens, and takes revenge to get what he wants. Diplomacy is not something Trump knows or with which he is acquainted.

He wouldn't have scored deals with a variety of international companies and whatnot otherwise.

Read the previous again.

Trump's blusterous attitude reveals his ingrained zeal for American success.

No, it reveals his ingrained zeal for Donald Trump.

It doesn't necessarily reveal a high and mighty mindset.

That's the only kind of mindset it reveals.

In these current times, things need to get done. Modesty and meekness, although valuable, is not entirely appropriate for the current times.

Neither is narcissism, divisiveness, and dishonesty.

That's not say that Mr.Trump lacks modesty and meekness.

But he does.

It's just those two attributes are untimely in Trump's current profession and aimed profession.

Not untimely. Misplaced.

 

[TaylorTG]

Re: Viligant_Warrior

Yeah, that's why he was sued civilly in 2013 by the New York Attorney-General's office for consumer fraud.

An incident which took place 2 years ago is not relevant to today's current events.

Yeah, that's why he was sued civilly in 2013 by the New York Attorney-General's office for consumer fraud.

His history over the years indicates that's the only side he's got.

Since when is taking a multibillion dollar corporation into Chapter 13 bankruptcy -- obliterating the debt but killing the company too -- equal to "success"?

Not Trump. Any quick perusal of the Internet will turn up story after story of how he browbeats, threatens, and takes revenge to get what he wants. Diplomacy is not something Trump knows or with which he is acquainted.

Read the previous again.

No, it reveals his ingrained zeal for Donald Trump.

That's the only kind of mindset it reveals.

Neither is narcissism, divisiveness, and dishonesty.

But he does.

Not untimely. Misplaced.

Your attitude suggests that you believe yourself to be more intelligent than I am. Enlighten me by posting links to non-biased articles and videos detailing Trump's history.

 

[Desdichado]

Re: Viligant_Warrior

An incident which took place 2 years ago is not relevant to today's current events.

Okay, that's just plain asinine.

 

[WoundedWarrior]

Re: Viligant_Warrior

Your attitude suggests that you believe yourself to be more intelligent than I am.

No it doesn't -- You just perceived this on your own.

Looks, to me, like VW took your post seriously and gave you a decent response.

Also, looks to me, like you just didn't like the fact that he disagrees -- and furthermore, don't want to spend any time thinking about the points [he made] on your own.

...just my perspective.

 

[TaylorTG]

Re: Desdichado and WoundedWarrior

Okay, that's just plain asinine.

How?

Even though the aforementioned incident potentially reveals what Donald Trump is capable of, it is not necessarily indicative of Trump's current character. The incident involving consumer fraud is not recent, and therefore irrelevant.

By criticizing Trump for his actions years ago, you run the risk of trying to guilt trip him. Would a parent scold his son for partying late at night, when this son has already dropped the habit?

Also, looks to me, like you just didn't like the fact that he disagrees -- and furthermore, don't want to spend any time thinking about the points [he made] on your own.

Read the entirety of post #202, and you'll find that I asked him to provide evidence for Trump's wrongdoings. This reveals that I am open-minded; that I'm willing to alter my mindsets based on presented evidence.

In post #201, Viliigant_Warrior mentioned two incidents defaming Trump's character. However, he did not provide evidence (links leading to any necessary videos or articles) for his assertions. Thus, I registered his comments as originating from a condescending attitude.

 

[Desdichado]

Re: Desdichado and WoundedWarrior

How?

Even though the aforementioned incident potentially reveals what Donald Trump is capable of, it is not necessarily indicative of Trump's current character. The incident involving consumer fraud is not recent, and therefore irrelevant.

By criticizing Trump for his actions years ago, you run the risk of trying to guilt trip him. Would a parent scold his son for partying late at night, when this son has already dropped the habit?

Your analogy is weak. There is a wide gulf between correcting the actions of a son and deciding who should be President of the world's superpower.

More relevant to my point though is that two years is an extremely short amount of time.

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

Re: Viligant_Warrior

An incident which took place 2 years ago is not relevant to today's current events.

I see. "Character doesn't matter." Gotcha. Making a note of that ...

Your attitude suggests that you believe yourself to be more intelligent than I am. Enlighten me by posting links to non-biased articles and videos detailing Trump's history.

If you think posting counterpoints to your points indicates a superior attitude on my part, then I would suspect that for you, there would be "non-biased" source I could provide.

As I stated in that post, all you have to do is Google Trump, and then read things yourself with an unbiased eye. Thanks, and God bless.

 

[Sirk]

If trump is so mean arrogant and with such low character...why did he loan his private jet to a sick three year old so he could get medical treatment?

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

If trump is so mean arrogant and with such low character...why did he loan his private jet to a sick three year old so he could get medical treatment?

Even a blind hog finds an ear of corn every now and then.

The irrational support of Trump is going to give the White House to the Democrats in 2016. When are these supporters who are so "inspired" by his tirades on immigration and "making America great again" (what does that even mean?) going to wake up and realize he isn't loyal to anyone but Donald Trump, and he has no answers that aren't reworked Democratic platform planks?

Sirk, you have consistently offered nothing that qualifies Trump as president, only that he "inspires" conservatives by saying what needs to be said. I think what you and the millions of others mean is that he shouts loudly like you want to, and probably do when watching TV. I know I do. But you need to read this from three weeks ago. I'll even save you the trouble of clicking the link:

Commentary: Donald Trump’s an idiot, but he’s also a fool

Last week, he went to Laredo, Texas, to make a stop at the Mexican border (cuz, you know, he wanted to see if he was actually right about his claim that Mexico is sending all its drug addicts and rapists and killers to America. Mr. Trump likes to speak first, check the facts later).

While at the border, the Donald held court with a throng of adoring reporters. Wearing a baseball hat that said “Make America Great Again,” he kicked off a frenetic press conference.

“We were treated so nicely. We learned so much in such a quick period of time,” he said. That’s good for Donald, he doesn’t have much time to learn. And this is what happened next:

Trump: “Well, thank you very much for being here. It’s been an amazing experience. Mexico is booming, absolutely booming I don’t know if it’s good for the United States but it’s good for Mexico. Anybody have any questions?”

One woman asked: “Can you save your relationship with Hispanics?”

“Yeah, I think I’ll win the Hispanic vote,” Mr. Trump said. “You know, I have thousands of Mexicans and Hispanics.” This was a nice quote, like Mitt Romney saying he has binders full of women. But Mr. Trump went on.

“Over the years, thousands and thousands of Hispanics have worked for me and now work for me, and the relationship is very good.” Not, you know, in executive positions, but whatever. The world needs ditch-diggers, too.

Then an angry Mexican, citing the Chattanooga murders, said killers come from everywhere

“I agree with that. No, I agree with that. And they come through here, but they come from all over the world. I agree with that.”

Asked about a planned Border Patrol union meeting that got canceled, The Donald said: “So they invited me and then at the last moment — I mean, we were virtually in the air — and they said, ‘We can’t get involved.’ And I heard they got those orders from Washington.”

President Obama is trying to shut him down! For shame!

Asked if he was a racist, Mr. Trump said “there was such a great warmth” on his drive from the airport.

Q: “They were chanting against you.”

Mr. Trump: “No, they were chanting for me.”

Q: “No, they were chanting against you.”

Mr. Trump: “I didn’t see them.” So much for his vision. And his hearing.

A reporter asked: “What will you actually do to change the illegal immigration?”

Mr. Trump said: “You have to create — you have to make the people that come in, they have to be legal. Very simple.”

Boom. Mr. Trump solved illegal immigration, just like that. Just make it so that when they come into the country illegally, “they have to be legal.”

And from there, it actually got worse. But you get the picture.

Why haven't the mainstream liberal media reported these obvious cues that Trump is a complete buffoon? Because they'd love nothing better than to have the GOP nominate this idiot to run against whoever the Democrats wind up nominating. In fact, with Trump as the GOP nominee, the Democrats could nominate the Energizer Bunny and get him elected with no problem.

 

[Atwood]

Paul's concerns would be admirable if there was actually a basis for concern for the average American. There isn't. If we aren't doing anything terrorist-related, we have nothing to fear.

How do you know there is no basis for concern to avg american?

Who decides whether you are doing something terrorist-relatived?

I find your comments here terroristic. I am reporting you to the Homeland Security.

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

How do you know there is no basis for concern to avg american?

Who decides whether you are doing something terrorist-relatived?

I find your comments here terroristic. I am reporting you to the Homeland Security.

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[Sirk]

Even a blind hog finds an ear of corn every now and then.

The irrational support of Trump is going to give the White House to the Democrats in 2016. When are these supporters who are so "inspired" by his tirades on immigration and "making America great again" (what does that even mean?) going to wake up and realize he isn't loyal to anyone but Donald Trump, and he has no answers that aren't reworked Democratic platform planks?

Sirk, you have consistently offered nothing that qualifies Trump as president, only that he "inspires" conservatives by saying what needs to be said. I think what you and the millions of others mean is that he shouts loudly like you want to, and probably do when watching TV. I know I do. But you need to read this from three weeks ago. I'll even save you the trouble of clicking the link:

And from there, it actually got worse. But you get the picture.

Why haven't the mainstream liberal media reported these obvious cues that Trump is a complete buffoon? Because they'd love nothing better than to have the GOP nominate this idiot to run against whoever the Democrats wind up nominating. In fact, with Trump as the GOP nominee, the Democrats could nominate the Energizer Bunny and get him elected with no problem.

So he didn't say it perfectly that he wants stop letting people in with abandon.... but instead make them go thru the process of assimilating into our culture.....the legal way.

 

[Cee]

I support Trump and I'm not scared to admit it. I'm done with career politicians. And I'm fine with whoever wins as long as it's not a career politician. At least I know he doesn't have a hidden agenda. And Trump commented that he didn't refer to any menstrual cycle in his comment. A lot of people assumed it, but that's not what he was implying. And he said (and I agree) that anyone who thinks thats what he meant is a sick deviant. As far as attacking his business success, it's far more than all of us put together, and quite frankly most of the candidates.

He doesn't need the money, he has turn around experience, he has building experience, he has the resources, and most of all he has the drive to actually turn America around. I'm tired of politicians with hidden agendas. If you think you're doing a good thing by sitting in here nitpicking everything he's done than fine. But at least he's willing to put his money, time, and energy where his mouth is. As a result of his candidacy I've seen things like the NAFTA treaty being addressed which quite frankly hasn't been. It's always been polite talking points that do very little.

At least he's willing to stand up. I might not agree with everything, but I can support a man who's willing to fight for our country which is more than I can say for most of the candidates.

But, I'll support any one who's not a career politician at this stage in the game. And especially not Bush or Clinton I've seen the result of their presidency and it's a lot of nothing. And quite frankly I think they have hidden agendas which are not in our best interest. It's not that these people don't know what to do. It's that they don't want to do it. The sooner people wake up to that fact the better our country and our children's future will be.

C.

 

[Cee]

Actually now you're the one who is misrepresenting him in your little smear campaign here. Trump has offered very good solutions. I've watched his videos have you? The brief solutions he's had a chance to address (while not answering silly question designed to make him look bad) are better than most I've heard. To say they are "reworked Democratic platform pranks" is going WAY overboard.

As far as your fear campaign of saying people who support Trump will give the democratics the election is also not going over well with me. It these type of things that make people scared to challenge the status quo and could end up God forbid with another Bush in office. Which is exactly what the "establishment" wants. So let's not advance their agenda.

I should stop commenting because people attacking a man who's willing to fight for our country annoys me. You might not like him, but to call him dishonest and all other kinds of things is below the belt. He's not perfect, but at least he's in a position to make a difference and willing to do so. And regardless of how badly you want him to look bad his results speak for themselves there's a reason why he's winning in the polls. It's because he knows what he's doing.

C.

Even a blind hog finds an ear of corn every now and then.

The irrational support of Trump is going to give the White House to the Democrats in 2016. When are these supporters who are so "inspired" by his tirades on immigration and "making America great again" (what does that even mean?) going to wake up and realize he isn't loyal to anyone but Donald Trump, and he has no answers that aren't reworked Democratic platform planks?

Sirk, you have consistently offered nothing that qualifies Trump as president, only that he "inspires" conservatives by saying what needs to be said. I think what you and the millions of others mean is that he shouts loudly like you want to, and probably do when watching TV. I know I do. But you need to read this from three weeks ago. I'll even save you the trouble of clicking the link:

And from there, it actually got worse. But you get the picture.

Why haven't the mainstream liberal media reported these obvious cues that Trump is a complete buffoon? Because they'd love nothing better than to have the GOP nominate this idiot to run against whoever the Democrats wind up nominating. In fact, with Trump as the GOP nominee, the Democrats could nominate the Energizer Bunny and get him elected with no problem.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

I vote for Cee for president, Trump vice-president!!!

 

[Cee]

I vote for Cee for president, Trump vice-president!!!

Haha, If I was president I'd axe most of the federal government.

Federal Reserve - gone. (The first to go even though not actually a federal dept, they just put Federal in the name to confuse people.)
EPA - gone. This is a front to socialize land and stop us from growing nationally.
IRS - gone.
NAFTA - gone.
GMOs - gone.
FDA - gone.
All tax breaks that companies use to outsource - gone.
All red tape that stops companies from being able to manufacture locally (and not internationally) - gone.
Tax breaks for manufacturing and distribution companies here nationally - established.
ISIS - full on assault. Jesus protected people, we should too. Every day they grow bigger and bolder.

Then I'd hire TRUMP to renegotiate our deals with Iran, Mexico, and China. So we can compete globally with our newly established manufacturing and distribution so our exports are higher than our imports.

There's a few more things I'd do, but that would get us on the right track, IMO.

C.

 

[Sirk]

Haha, If I was president I'd axe most of the federal government.

Federal Reserve - gone. (The first to go even though not actually a federal dept, they just put Federal in the name to confuse people.)
EPA - gone. This is a front to socialize land and stop us from growing nationally.
IRS - gone.
NAFTA - gone.
GMOs - gone.
FDA - gone.
All tax breaks that companies use to outsource - gone.
All red tape that stops companies from being able to manufacture locally (and not internationally) - gone.
Tax breaks for manufacturing and distribution companies here nationally - established.
ISIS - full on assault. Jesus protected people, we should too. Every day they grow bigger and bolder.

Then I'd hire TRUMP to renegotiate our deals with Iran, Mexico, and China. So we can compete globally with our newly established manufacturing and distribution so our exports are higher than our imports.

There's a few more things I'd do, but that would get us on the right track, IMO.

C.

Really well said.

 

[Jenizona]

Maybe so

*sigh* Reported you... go away.

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

Actually now you're the one who is misrepresenting him in your little smear campaign here.

This is not a smear campaign, Cee, of Trump or of his supporters. The facts will fall as they may, I've seen what I've needed to see to make a decision. So have you. So be it.

As far as your fear campaign ...

Not fear. If he remains strong with 20% of the party and takes them with him if/when he bolts for a third-party candidacy -- because much as you want the rest of us to accept him as our candidate, we won't, and certainly the majority of the American people won't -- then "sayonara" to a Republican presidency.

I should stop commenting because people attacking a man who's willing to fight for our country annoys me.

My friend, I am a 20-year veteran of the U.S. Army, a helicopter pilot, combat officer and unit commander. I actually fought for this country, which is something Trump can't say -- a plethora of words not representing, in my mind, "fighting for this country," I'm sorry to say. I've earned the right to say what I think, and it is in opposition to what you believe, then say just so, please, without the hyperbole.

God bless you.

 

[Cee]

Thank you for replying to me with more civility than I saw previous.

And you're right you have earned to say what you think. And you've also earned the right for me to say what I think, but I don't think that includes saying someone is dishonest, unethical, etc. The truth is Trump does have results. And they speak for themselves. As far as people not wanting to vote for him, well, they can decide if they would rather have Clinton or Trump. I think that choice is obvious. If he does go third party, I will welcome a reprieve from choosing a Bush or a Clinton. If it's a better candidate than Bush than his 3rd partyship won't matter much.

Oh and I also was in the military and so has most of my family, my biological father was a west point grad, army ranger, and my grandfather was a special force para captain. I also care about this country just as you do.

Bless you

C.

This is not a smear campaign, Cee, of Trump or of his supporters. The facts will fall as they may, I've seen what I've needed to see to make a decision. So have you. So be it.

Not fear. If he remains strong with 20% of the party and takes them with him if/when he bolts for a third-party candidacy -- because much as you want the rest of us to accept him as our candidate, we won't, and certainly the majority of the American people won't -- then "sayonara" to a Republican presidency.

My friend, I am a 20-year veteran of the U.S. Army, a helicopter pilot, combat officer and unit commander. I actually fought for this country, which is something Trump can't say -- a plethora of words not representing, in my mind, "fighting for this country," I'm sorry to say. I've earned the right to say what I think, and it is in opposition to what you believe, then say just so, please, without the hyperbole.

God bless you.