Trump emerges unscathed as the the media attempts to demonize him

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Angela53510

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Viligant_Warrior said:
He made a fool of himself, proved that he doesn't have any answers, doesn't even know a lot of the problems, and that he hates women, other Republicans, in fact just about anyone but himself. As Charles Krauthammer said:

And as I said in my Trump thread, there isn't a cogent, processed thought in anything he says. And as Violent so eloquently put it, "Trump is a shameless bully and a foul-smelling sleazebag."

I couldn't agree with both of us more.

On the contrary, thank Fox News for exposing this fraud for what he is, a self-centered, arrogant phony with an ego bigger than Barack Obama's -- and until the other night, I didn't even think that was possible.
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I try not to interfere in American politics, but Trump scares me to death. He has declared bankruptcy many times, definitely is a misogynist, now back peddling and saying he doesn't remember putting women down (In the Canadian news, anyway)

He is a spoiled, egotistical man, who would bring ruin and havoc to the United States. Don't you think he might declare bankruptcy for the US if he ran the economy into the ground. US, the second Greece, with now European Market to bail him out? That is his normal business plan!

Totally in agreement with both Violet ad VW here!

Please try and support someone intelligent with a heart to serve, rather than be served. For as the US goes, so goes Canada!
 
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Angela53510 said:
I try not to interfere in American politics, but Trump scares me to death. He has declared bankruptcy many times, definitely is a misogynist, now back peddling and saying he doesn't remember putting women down (In the Canadian news, anyway)

He is a spoiled, egotistical man, who would bring ruin and havoc to the United States. Don't you think he might declare bankruptcy for the US if he ran the economy into the ground. US, the second Greece, with now European Market to bail him out? That is his normal business plan!

Totally in agreement with both Violet ad VW here!

Please try and support someone intelligent with a heart to serve, rather than be served. For as the US goes, so goes Canada!
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The outside opinion is always interesting to hear. I'd be curious on what you thought of the debate if you saw it, or whom you think are the top GOP candidates.
 
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Angela53510 said:
I try not to interfere in American politics, but Trump scares me to death. He has declared bankruptcy many times, definitely is a misogynist, now back peddling and saying he doesn't remember putting women down (In the Canadian news, anyway)

He is a spoiled, egotistical man, who would bring ruin and havoc to the United States. Don't you think he might declare bankruptcy for the US if he ran the economy into the ground. US, the second Greece, with now European Market to bail him out? That is his normal business plan!

Totally in agreement with both Violet ad VW here!

Please try and support someone intelligent with a heart to serve, rather than be served. For as the US goes, so goes Canada!
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We are already in ruin and havoc because of the previous Bushes and Obama, we need to steer clear of another Bush in office.

I am still up in the air who the front runner should be, but given the chance to put Trump in his place the other candidates instead agreed with pretty much everything Trump said.

The only thing I liked about the debate is when Rand Paul put Christie in his place on the 5th Amendment !!!
 
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The outside opinion is always interesting to hear. I'd be curious on what you thought of the debate if you saw it, or whom you think are the top GOP candidates.
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Sorry, I missed the debate, except for snatches posted on FB. I also missed the debates for our Federal leaders. We have an election on Oct. 19, and the Conservatives have been airing attack ads on the other leaders for months, have jerry rigged a bunch of ridings. Last election, they found out who was not going to vote for them, and sent out automatic calls telling these people to go to the wrong polling vote. People were sent to jail over that, but not Harper, our dictator.

We have 5 parties running, with 3 main ones. None of whom I like. So maybe a throw away vote for me to protest?

I have been reading lots and lots about what is happening in the US, enough to say I like Ben Carson, because he appears to have a brain, and he seems kind and gentle, as a Christian. Trump is my bottom candidate, I hope he drops out of the running right away.

I will keep on watching the news about your unveiling election. If I change my mind, see any red flags, etc, I will post it here. I really like elections as they seem to be the only time people get to speak. Except in Canada, our present Prime Minister got only 37% of the vote to win the last election. We have three parties representing the middle and left, and they split the vote. I do like the economic policies of our conservatives, but Harper has to go. He is an egomanic, unanswerable to the electorate, who has steadily eroded our rights and values since he was elected.
 
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Angela53510 said:
Sorry, I missed the debate, except for snatches posted on FB. I also missed the debates for our Federal leaders. We have an election on Oct. 19, and the Conservatives have been airing attack ads on the other leaders for months, have jerry rigged a bunch of ridings. Last election, they found out who was not going to vote for them, and sent out automatic calls telling these people to go to the wrong polling vote. People were sent to jail over that, but not Harper, our dictator.

We have 5 parties running, with 3 main ones. None of whom I like. So maybe a throw away vote for me to protest?

I have been reading lots and lots about what is happening in the US, enough to say I like Ben Carson, because he appears to have a brain, and he seems kind and gentle, as a Christian. Trump is my bottom candidate, I hope he drops out of the running right away.

I will keep on watching the news about your unveiling election. If I change my mind, see any red flags, etc, I will post it here. I really like elections as they seem to be the only time people get to speak. Except in Canada, our present Prime Minister got only 37% of the vote to win the last election. We have three parties representing the middle and left, and they split the vote. I do like the economic policies of our conservatives, but Harper has to go. He is an egomanic, unanswerable to the electorate, who has steadily eroded our rights and values since he was elected.
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Carson is a good man, very smart and wise (and probably one of the few running who is an actual sincere Christian) but he's not flashy or ruthless enough to have a chance. Fox pretty mush ignored him during the debate because he isn't one of the Chosen Ones.
 
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Carson is a good man, very smart and wise (and probably one of the few running who is an actual sincere Christian) but he's not flashy or ruthless enough to have a chance. Fox pretty mush ignored him during the debate because he isn't one of the Chosen Ones.
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It's a shame because he probably is what you want to see in a president. One that makes this country a country of God. I had the privilege of seeing him speak at my school in January 2014. Since then, I've been a big fan of his.
 
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I will continue to watch and listen. At this point I can only rule out two. Trump and Bush. There is no way I want Trump in charge of the military forces (especially the nuclear forces), and I've had enough Clinton and Bush to last me for two lifetimes. I'm looking for three things. I want a candidate that believes that we are One Nation Under God. I want someone who cares about the future of my Children. Finally, I want someone who will live up to the oath of the office.
 
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Carson is a good man, very smart and wise (and probably one of the few running who is an actual sincere Christian) but he's not flashy or ruthless enough to have a chance. Fox pretty mush ignored him during the debate because he isn't one of the Chosen Ones.
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Carson is a nice and smart man but I do not consider a SDA a christian.
 
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Carson is a nice and smart man but I do not consider a SDA a christian.
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Many don't, but many don't realize there are several different "varieties" of SDA. A couple of them are not "Moses followers," and Dr. Carson belongs to one of those churches. He trusts in Christ and Christ alone, without works or the Law, for salvation.
 
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Many don't, but many don't realize there are several different "varieties" of SDA. A couple of them are not "Moses followers," and Dr. Carson belongs to one of those churches. He trusts in Christ and Christ alone, without works or the Law, for salvation.
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Dont assume that I dont realize sir. I stand by my statement.
 
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Dont assume that I dont realize sir. I stand by my statement.
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Then I have to say that you are willfully ignorant of his statement of faith and rejecting an excellent candidate because of personal prejudice. That's truly a shame.
 
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We are already in ruin and havoc because of the previous Bushes and Obama, we need to steer clear of another Bush in office.

I am still up in the air who the front runner should be, but given the chance to put Trump in his place the other candidates instead agreed with pretty much everything Trump said.

The only thing I liked about the debate is when Rand Paul put Christie in his place on the 5th Amendment !!!
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I agree with everything you've said except that it is the 4th he was referring to. Rand supports 2nd and 4th. Christie doesnt necessarily support the 4th.

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[TD]Prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures and sets out requirements for search warrants based on probable cause as determined by a neutral judge or magistrate.[/TD]
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[TD]December 15, 1791[/TD]
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[TD]Sets out rules for indictment by grand jury and eminent domain, protects the right to due process, and prohibits self-incrimination and double jeopardy.[/TD]
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I agree with everything you've said except that it is the 4th he was referring to. Rand supports 2nd and 4th. Christie doesnt necessarily support the 4th.
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Perhaps you'd be interested in what Winston Churchill said just before Great Britain was forced into war with Germany.

Winston Churchill: War Speech, September 3, 1939

Perhaps it might seem a paradox that a war undertaken in the name of liberty and right should require, as a necessary part of its processes, the surrender for the time being of so many of the dearly valued liberties and rights. In these last few days the House of Commons has been voting dozens of Bills which hand over to the executive our most dearly valued traditional liberties. We are sure that these liberties will be in hands which will not abuse them, which will use them for no class or party interests, which will cherish and guard them, and we look forward to the day, surely and confidently we look forward to the day, when our liberties and rights will be restored to us, and when we shall be able to share them with the peoples to whom such blessings are unknown.
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The issue of personal liberty must be defended at all cost, up to the point that defending them threatens our ultimate freedoms, and the very existence of our nation. That was what Churchill believe Great Britain faced in 1939, and it is what we are facing in the United States in 2015.

While I admire Rand Paul's vehement defenses of the First and Fourth Amendments (he never mentioned the Second in the debate, and it is irrelevant to the question) he is dead wrong in attempting to prevent all DHS access to certain records which, if you are not a terrorist, gives you no concern.
 
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Then I have to say that you are willfully ignorant of his statement of faith and rejecting an excellent candidate because of personal prejudice. That's truly a shame.
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Well that is your opinion. I will not take a jab at you. Your saying I am willfully ignorant was not only far fetched considering you do not know me well enough to make that assertion but it also shows me that you still have a propensity to say insulting things to others. Ive seen this previous on this thread. I still stand by my opinion and your insults harm yourself far more than they do me.
 
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Well that is your opinion. I will not take a jab at you. Your saying I am willfully ignorant was not only far fetched considering you do not know me well enough to make that assertion but it also shows me that you still have a propensity to say insulting things to others. Ive seen this previous on this thread. I still stand by my opinion and your insults harm yourself far more than they do me.
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You uphold Christian values in supporting a candidate, it is pointed out those very values you desire are in evidence for Dr. Carson -- by his church membership and by his statements of faith -- and yet you "stand by your statement." That, ma'am, is willful ignorance, whether I know you or not.
 
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Perhaps you'd be interested in what Winston Churchill said just before Great Britain was forced into war with Germany.

The issue of personal liberty must be defended at all cost, up to the point that defending them threatens our ultimate freedoms, and the very existence of our nation. That was what Churchill believe Great Britain faced in 1939, and it is what we are facing in the United States in 2015.

While I admire Rand Paul's vehement defenses of the First and Fourth Amendments (he never mentioned the Second in the debate, and it is irrelevant to the question) he is dead wrong in attempting to prevent all DHS access to certain records which, if you are not a terrorist, gives you no concern.
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Yes sir he has made mention of the 2nd as well but my statement did not state that he said it in the debate..
 
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You uphold Christian values in supporting a candidate, it is pointed out those very values you desire are in evidence for Dr. Carson -- by his church membership and by his statements of faith -- and yet you "stand by your statement." That, ma'am, is willful ignorance, whether I know you or not.
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Here again; you state your opinion. I disagree. Church membership does not make anyone a follower of Christ. If you want to assert that "anything" that waves a SDA flag is something other than SDA;it is your prerogative. I disagree vehemently.
 
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Here again; you state your opinion. I disagree. Church membership does not make anyone a follower of Christ. If you want to assert that "anything" that waves a SDA flag is something other than SDA;it is your prerogative. I disagree vehemently.
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Blondie, I'm sorry to say this, but you don't know what you're talking about, and should refrain from impugning Dr. Carson or anyone else who is a member of the non-legalistic varieties of SDA by claiming they "aren't Christians." That is, in fact, willful ignorance of the truth. Also, I did not stop at "church membership" but also stated that Dr. Carson has a statement of faith on his website that indicates his trust in Christ alone. You reject it without even reading it. You have a prejudice against SDA without even wanting to know that some types of SDA are not legalistic. Your view of all SDA as un-Christian is not supported by the facts, and your rant is inexcusable. Done here.
 
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Oops...you must have thought that this CHRISTIAN chatroom loves your biased political unasked opinion, especially with the 'middle finger" comment. Did you hit the wrong key? Google "Political chatrooms" and run to them, for they are awaiting to hear from you...otherwise, stick around and you just may read a BIBLE quote, or join a holy spirit filled topic or discussion...something much more important to your future than your 'demonized Trump" scenario.
 
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