Trump has tested positive for COVID-19.

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EleventhHour

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the gov. of california told his state residents to " wear a mask , even when eating, only take it down to take a bite of food"

now, what if that got mandated. would that be an infringement on personal liberty???
Depends where they are .. follow the science.

Not necessary outside but in very poorly ventilated area probably a good idea.
Sadly most people unfortunately cannot exercise common sense anymore.
 
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JL,
Roughs just stating the obvious, = YES, almost the WHOLE WORLD=pagans, HATES HIM-US!!!
it's just prophecy being fulfilled...
@EleventhHour,
you really do appear to be our personal 'stalker', not even being able to agree with the obvious -
we, hub and myself are for sure praying for you, and for DC...
this is meant in all sincerity...
:):)
 
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EleventhHour

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JL,
Roughs just stating the obvious, = YES, almost the WHOLE WORLD=pagans, HATES HIM-US!!!
it's just prophecy being fulfilled...
I gave you indifferent because I have many friends that are not saved they do not hate God and nor they do hate me..

These over generalized blanket statements I do not find they conform to reality which is far more complicated.

Again look at the context and to whom Jesus was speaking.
As well, I rarely see or read any of your posts.
 
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your 'colors' are showing, just not to us but to everyone,
and it is obvious that you don't CARE about yourself
or the opinions of others...
nuff said...
 
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EleventhHour

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your 'colors' are showing, just not to us but to everyone,
and it is obvious that you don't CARE about yourself
or the opinions of others...
nuff said...
That would be incorrect about caring.
Correct about opinions ...that is generally a waste of time.

Glad everyone is on the same page about me on CC .... that must be a first.

Good to people are messaging about me... never knew I was so high profile here.:unsure:
 

GraceAndTruth

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Just so ya know:

SAARS was also a co-ved virus. It had a kill rate of 10%. Co-ved 19 has a kill rate of less than 2% (information put out by WHO on world wide figures). EVERYONE who got SARRS went into pneumonia, and nearly all of those had to be put on ventilators. There were way fewer cases, but none the less a PANDEMIC. information from CDC website

YET....with SAARS there was NO shutdown of anything, no wearing of masks, no 'social distancing'....in other words: no test of power control over people. Are we free or slave to government control?

Trump should never have listened to those puppets at the CDC. Herd immunity has not been successful because the population is basically ISOLATED from each other. Should have been NO shutdown of anything.

Masks do not work. Recent forest fires in California had firemen using masks to filter smoke particles. Testing results were that smoke particles could pass through the mask so they were useless. Co-ved virus is smaller than smoke particles. What does that tell you?

We have flu deaths in every flu season, particularly among the elderly who succumb because of lows immune systems and underlying disease. I fall in that category but I feel keeping good hygiene and careful in crowds is all that is needed. MOST of the elderly deaths occurred in New York and New Jersey (I think the figure was 92% of deaths in elderly) and mostly because of Cuomo's decision to put co-ved patients in NURSING HOMES instead of the hospital ship whose beds went EMPTY. Should we senior citizens live the end of our lives in fear and isolation?

There are politicians calling for more shutdowns, mandatory masks, no schools, no churches.....yet people can go to bars.

The rules for radicals written by Sol Olinsky calls for just these measures if a national crisis arises.....to reshape the government into a communist type of government/Oligarchy. The ten steps he proposes are progressing just fine with our "progressive friends" in DC.
 

soggykitten

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What is interesting is that before last night and the VP candidate debate media sources reported Pence and Harris tested negative for Covid 19.
That's interesting because Mike Pence is always sharing time with President Trump. Yet, Mike Pence doesn't test positive for Covid 19? Of all four candidates for president and vice president, Trump is the only one that tested positive?
I find the timing a bit suspect being how the questions about Covid 19 during the first debate with Joe Biden turned out. And then right after the debate and not two days time passed we hear Trump tested positive.

But the thing we don't hear media harp on as much as they fuel the fear factor behind the words, tested positive for Covid 19 is, that doesn't mean President Trump has Covid 19. And that goes for anyone who had a positive test result. And that's if they actually did have a positive test result as we know false positives have occurred as well as people who did not get tested being notified they did test positive for Covid 19.
They either signed up for the test and didn't take it, or whatever caused them to not make the appointment for testing.
Here's why a positive test doesn't always mean you have COVID-19
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/nl-covid-testing-explained-1.5561292


Heavy: Positive COVID-19 Test Doesn’t Mean You’re Contagious: CDC
 
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EleventhHour

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Just so ya know:

SAARS was also a co-ved virus. It had a kill rate of 10%. Co-ved 19 has a kill rate of less than 2% (information put out by WHO on world wide figures). EVERYONE who got SARRS went into pneumonia, and nearly all of those had to be put on ventilators. There were way fewer cases, but none the less a PANDEMIC. information from CDC website

YET....with SAARS there was NO shutdown of anything, no wearing of masks, no 'social distancing'....in other words: no test of power control over people. Are we free or slave to government control?

Trump should never have listened to those puppets at the CDC. Herd immunity has not been successful because the population is basically ISOLATED from each other. Should have been NO shutdown of anything.

Masks do not work. Recent forest fires in California had firemen using masks to filter smoke particles. Testing results were that smoke particles could pass through the mask so they were useless. Co-ved virus is smaller than smoke particles. What does that tell you?

We have flu deaths in every flu season, particularly among the elderly who succumb because of lows immune systems and underlying disease. I fall in that category but I feel keeping good hygiene and careful in crowds is all that is needed. MOST of the elderly deaths occurred in New York and New Jersey (I think the figure was 92% of deaths in elderly) and mostly because of Cuomo's decision to put co-ved patients in NURSING HOMES instead of the hospital ship whose beds went EMPTY. Should we senior citizens live the end of our lives in fear and isolation?

There are politicians calling for more shutdowns, mandatory masks, no schools, no churches.....yet people can go to bars.

The rules for radicals written by Sol Olinsky calls for just these measures if a national crisis arises.....to reshape the government into a communist type of government/Oligarchy. The ten steps he proposes are progressing just fine with our "progressive friends" in DC.
A lot of what you state is personal opinion ... so let us get some facts...

First SARS CoV-1 and SARS CoV-2 are very different viruses, different incubation period and many other things.... and this made it far easier to contain even though more virulent..

And Toronto was affected by SARS CoV-1 and yes we did have lock downs.

Herd immunity are you willing to risk your life? NO one knows how long the antibodies last in the body.. so herd immunity may not even be possible, herd immunity would mean around 3 million deaths in the USA if it is even possible

Churches opened before bars where I live.

Co-ved virus is smaller than smoke particles.
And the science and significance here? :unsure:
Yes one needs a electron microscopy to see the virus .. that has no bearing on how deadly it is... smh!


The seasonal flu is not SARS CoV-2 ... while they share some symptoms the effects of the SARS CoV-2 upon the organs is far different.

By the way the virus has been named SARS CoV-2 and the disease it causes is Covid -19
 

soggykitten

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Just so ya know:

SAARS was also a co-ved virus. It had a kill rate of 10%. Co-ved 19 has a kill rate of less than 2% (information put out by WHO on world wide figures). EVERYONE who got SARRS went into pneumonia, and nearly all of those had to be put on ventilators. There were way fewer cases, but none the less a PANDEMIC. information from CDC website

YET....with SAARS there was NO shutdown of anything, no wearing of masks, no 'social distancing'....in other words: no test of power control over people. Are we free or slave to government control?

Trump should never have listened to those puppets at the CDC. Herd immunity has not been successful because the population is basically ISOLATED from each other. Should have been NO shutdown of anything.

Masks do not work. Recent forest fires in California had firemen using masks to filter smoke particles. Testing results were that smoke particles could pass through the mask so they were useless. Co-ved virus is smaller than smoke particles. What does that tell you?

We have flu deaths in every flu season, particularly among the elderly who succumb because of lows immune systems and underlying disease. I fall in that category but I feel keeping good hygiene and careful in crowds is all that is needed. MOST of the elderly deaths occurred in New York and New Jersey (I think the figure was 92% of deaths in elderly) and mostly because of Cuomo's decision to put co-ved patients in NURSING HOMES instead of the hospital ship whose beds went EMPTY. Should we senior citizens live the end of our lives in fear and isolation?

There are politicians calling for more shutdowns, mandatory masks, no schools, no churches.....yet people can go to bars.

The rules for radicals written by Sol Olinsky calls for just these measures if a national crisis arises.....to reshape the government into a communist type of government/Oligarchy. The ten steps he proposes are progressing just fine with our "progressive friends" in DC.
This may be found informative.
USA Today via MSN
Fact check: Masks can keep out COVID-19 particles even though smaller than dry wall dust
Devan Patel, USA TODAY 8/10/2020

On COVID-19 particle size
Dr. Amy Price, a research scientist at Stanford University who was involved in changes to World Health Organization mask guidelines, told Stanford Medicine that masks could impact how far viral particles can travel. The droplets that carry the viral particles are also larger in size than the virus itself, she noted.

“Many people argue that cloth masks can’t be effective because they can’t filter out viral particles, which are extremely tiny,” she said. “Most of these particles leave the mouth and nose in much larger droplets that become smaller through evaporation as they move away from the body. Trapping droplets with the mask means not nearly as many viral particles escape. So, when all parties in a gathering are wearing well-constructed, well-fitting masks, it provides an extra layer of safety for everyone.”

The COVID-19 particle is indeed around 0.1 microns in size, but it is always bonded to something larger.

“There is never a naked virus floating in the air or released by people,” said Linsey Marr, a professor of civil and environmental engineering at Virginia Tech who specializes in airborne transmission of viruses.

“Breathing and talking generate particles around 1 micron in size, which will be collected by N95 respirator filters with very high efficiency,” said Lisa Brosseau, a retired professor of environmental and occupational health sciences who spent her career researching respiratory protection.

Surgical and cloth masks do not protect the wearer from COVID-19 particles as well as medical N95s. (The type of N95 masks used in construction are not effective against the novel coronavirus because they have valves.)

But the CDC does note, “A cloth face covering may not protect the wearer, but it may keep the wearer from spreading the virus to others.” By wearing a cloth covering in public, the spread of the virus can be slowed by lessening the transmission to others.
 

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Just so ya know.......stats came from WHO, the CDC homepage, local news reports and national news reports.
......but hey, Snowflake.....don't forget to lock your doors, a virus might get in.

Local news report......it was reported by a city official that all hospital beds were occupied...we were at critical mass. Local reporter called several of those hospitals and was told they had plenty of beds. Was it the Dim that lied or the Hospital manager?

Don't forget to turn on CNN or MSNBC for your daily dose of misinformation and scare mongering.
 

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Just so ya know.......stats came from WHO, the CDC homepage, local news reports and national news reports.
......but hey, Snowflake.....don't forget to lock your doors, a virus might get in.

Local news report......it was reported by a city official that all hospital beds were occupied...we were at critical mass. Local reporter called several of those hospitals and was told they had plenty of beds. Was it the Dim that lied or the Hospital manager?

Don't forget to turn on CNN or MSNBC for your daily dose of misinformation and scare mongering.
Condescension is your first or second gift?
To whom are you referring as Snowflake?

Are you able to address people without calling them names for not holding to your same opinion?
 
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Actually churches were fined in 1918 as well and churches were defiant in 1918 as well.
Without some social cohesion... extreme individualism will only lead to the deterioration of that society as being presently evidenced .....history repeats and repeats.

If you can protest and riot, you can go to church. The Dem governors have come up with such ridiculous rules and people are seeing the hypocrisy of it. The USA is not Canada, they take infringement of rights seriously here. The Gov. of my state has been on tv nightly, telling citizens they are not doing enough to stop this virus. He said people needed to stop having backyard BBQs. He keeps saying "mask up". The very same weekend that he shamed people for BBQs he allowed a major protest to take place in the biggest city in the state. People came from other states. Yet nothing was said about the risk of spreading the virus. Protest is a right, so is attending church. So there should be no issue attending church.