Trump - Russia Inquiry...

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They MAY have Interfered with our elections but neither I nor you REALLY know but they will eventually get to the bottom of this and then hopefully you will accept the judgements but the question at hand should be did Russia TRY to Interfere with our elections NOT did Russia have an IMPACT on our elections?
Isn't that, basically, the very question Hillary asked PRESIDENT Trump...... if he would accept the results of the election? Yet, to this very day, neither she nor the entire Democrat Party, has accepted those same results she wanted him to accept.

Will YOU accept the judgements of innocence when they finally get through playing around? Somehow, I doubt if you will.
 
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Billyd

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They MAY have Interfered with our elections but neither I nor you REALLY know but they will eventually get to the bottom of this and then hopefully you will accept the judgements but the question at hand should be did Russia TRY to Interfere with our elections NOT did Russia have an IMPACT on our elections?
I would be surprised if they did not try to interfere with our elections. I would also be surprised if China did not try to interfere with our elections. People like the Black Panther man standing in front of the poling station probably had more effect than all the foreign interference combined. Late night television bias exceeded even the Black Panther's interference.

It's time to shut down the congressional investigations and let the Justice Department do it's job. Representatives and senators need to get to the business of the country, or go home and send some who will work for the entire country, not the special interests groups.
 
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The question never has been "have they meddled in our politics." Of course they have.... just as we have meddled in theirs, and dozens of other nations. The question is if Trump colluded with them. After a year, they still have to say, "No he did not."
Remarkable,didn’t you serve In the military and you feel that way?I wonder If you also think think that people that serve In the military and get captured are not heroes?
 
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I would be surprised if they did not try to interfere with our elections.It's time to shut down the congressional investigations and let the Justice Department do it's job.
That’s very good advice unless we are talking about Trump,right?
 
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The question never has been "have they meddled in our politics." Of course they have.... just as we have meddled in theirs, and dozens of other nations. The question is if Trump colluded with them. After a year, they still have to say, "No he did not."
Remarkable,didn’t you serve In the military and you feel that way?I wonder If you also think think that people that serve In the military and get captured are not heroes?
What on Earth are you even talking about? Is being in the Military supposed to make me blind to the dirty stuff our government does?
 
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Do you think Russia influenced the election to the
point that if they hadn't have, Hillary would have won?
Feet WILL be held to the fire and If there Is something there we will all know and If there Is nothing that’s serious,we will know that too but either way,will you agree with the judgement?
 

MichaelOwen

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The judgment has already been made, God deemed TRUMP worthy of the presidency and appointed him, not Hillary Clinton.
 
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What on Earth are you even talking about? Is being in the Military supposed to make me blind to the dirty stuff our government does?
It’s a good thing to know what’s what but It’s from weakness that someone will allow another country to do what they want to because we are also doing It...good grief.

Just to give you an example of what I mean here Is an example.

We have the NUCLEAR weapons right,so then Is It wrong for some country that doesn’t have our best Interest at heart to have nuclear weapons since WE have them also?
 
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Isn't that, basically, the very question Hillary asked PRESIDENT Trump...... if he would accept the results of the election? Yet, to this very day, neither she nor the entire Democrat Party, has accepted those same results she wanted him to accept.
Oh those darn facts------
Here are the final numbers:
Clinton received 65,844,610 votes, or 48.2% of the total vote.
Trump received 62,979,636 votes, or 46.1% of the total vote. (That's a difference of 2.86 million votes.)
http://fusion.kinja.com/here-is-the-final-popular-vote-count-of-the-2016-electi-1793864349

It was the Electoral College that got Trump into the White House, not the U.S. citizens vote.

I think it is time for the Electoral College to be looked at. The general public doesn’t even know what or who they are and yet they decide who will be President regardless of the popular vote.

:)-
 
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The judgment has already been made, God deemed TRUMP worthy of the presidency and appointed him, not Hillary Clinton.


You knew the Lord would be watching when you posted this right-?

Then again an agnostic person wouldn't give a damn so I have to ask, when asked what your faith was, what did you say?

just curious, no pun intended or implied

 

Tommy379

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Oh those darn facts------
Here are the final numbers:
Clinton received 65,844,610 votes, or 48.2% of the total vote.
Trump received 62,979,636 votes, or 46.1% of the total vote. (That's a difference of 2.86 million votes.)
http://fusion.kinja.com/here-is-the-final-popular-vote-count-of-the-2016-electi-1793864349

It was the Electoral College that got Trump into the White House, not the U.S. citizens vote.

I think it is time for the Electoral College to be looked at. The general public doesn’t even know what or who they are and yet they decide who will be President regardless of the popular vote.

:)-
I agree with you, the Electoral college needs to be looked at.
The states need to consider changing their laws, to stop the public from voting for their electors.
The Electoral college is there for a reason, and I will fight to the bloody end to stop the tyranny of mob rule, known as democracy, from springing up in the United States.
 
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I agree with you, the Electoral college needs to be looked at.
The states need to consider changing their laws, to stop the public from voting for their electors.
The Electoral college is there for a reason, and I will fight to the bloody end to stop the tyranny of mob rule, known as democracy, from springing up in the United States.
some things just need repeating lol
 

Oncefallen

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It was the Electoral College that got Trump into the White House, not the U.S. citizens vote.

I think it is time for the Electoral College to be looked at. The general public doesn’t even know what or who they are and yet they decide who will be President regardless of the popular vote.

:)-
It seems to me that by far the majority of American citizens skipped the day in US Government class that covered how the Electoral College works (and has worked for over 200 years). Each state has the same number of electors as they have Senators and Congressmen combined which gives smaller states a little bit of a leg up. The founding fathers did this intentionally to keep a couple of large states (such as CA and New York) from running over the rest of the country.

How the electors vote is dictated by State (not Federal) law. Some states do winner takes all, others split the electoral votes by percentage of popular vote.

In reality this past election cycle is only the fourth time on our history that a President has won the Electoral vote but not the popular vote.

1876, Rutherford B Hayes

1888, Benjamin Harrison

2000, George Bush Jr.

2016, Donald Trump

Of course we can't forget the 1824 upset that put John Quincy Adams in the White House, he lost both the popular and electoral vote. The Constitution requires that a candidate receive a minimum of 131 electoral votes and neither candidate did in that election. In that case the Constitution turns the election over to the House of Representatives and he won the vote there.


 

jameen

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there is no trump-Russia. all of it is made up leftist media propaganda.
Your country's deep state is responsible for this.

They want to oust President Trump before the President decided to launch an investigation to the allegation of corruptions of some ex government officials who belonged to the Deep State.

The Deep State comprised of ex government officials and their allies in the US intelligence, military and US media who secretly try to manipulate the policies of the duly elected government of the US.
 
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Your country's deep state is responsible for this.

They want to oust President Trump before the President decided to launch an investigation to the allegation of corruptions of some ex government officials who belonged to the Deep State.

The Deep State comprised of ex government officials and their allies in the US intelligence, military and US media who secretly try to manipulate the policies of the duly elected government of the US.
Sources, please.
 
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Trump met Vladimir Putin and said that he believes Putin when Putin said he didn't have anything to do with Interfering with the elections but Trump doesn't believe our own people who said Russia DID Interfere with the elections and that's acceptable?
What would be Russia's motive for any of it? What does Russia benefit from Trump, that they couldn't get from Clinton?
Propaganda,If they can Influence the people then Influencing can move them the way you want them to move and maybe trump would be too easy and that would be desirable.BTW,hasn’t Russia tried to Influence other countries?
 
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we, hub and myself, would suggest that you put your 'limited' life time into
helping others and looking for ways to show how much Love you have for
your Saviour and fellow-man, by walking the walk...
 
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Will the mud stick to him?
Apparently there is no mud to speak of.. just a bunch of sneaky russians that tried to confuse american voters through their fake social media personalities.
 

Tommy379

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Propaganda,If they can Influence the people then Influencing can move them the way you want them to move and maybe trump would be too easy and that would be desirable.BTW,hasn’t Russia tried to Influence other countries?
Yes, and the United States does it all the time, has been since George Washington was prez. Voice of America is a United States government operated propaganda tool, used overseas.
The question is: How is this really effecting an election? No one from Russia is accused of stuffing ballot boxes. RT is a Russian propaganda tool, operated world wide.
It's admitted by the United States government, before Trump was in the running for President, the last administration spent tax payer money to run ads in Israel against Netanyahu. I like Netanyahu, so I'm not happy about that.
But foreign governments buying advertising in foreign countries is nothing new. When I was a child, I was very much into shortwave radio. Except for some religious broadcast, it was nothing more than foreign governments broadcasting propaganda.
13 Russian nationals charged with not registering as foreign agents, is a whole lot of nothing. Symbolic at best.the left is absolutely devastated that Clinton, the career politician, lost to a jerk from New York. Leftist are a bunch of crybabies, and their frail minds manifest in the frailty of their bodies. They need to get over it, eat a steak, and find a better candidate next time. Hillary Clinton lost the election because she is Hillary Clinton.
Hacked DNC emails show, the party deliberately rigged the primaries against Bernie Sanders. That's the corruption that needs some investigating.
Trump came in with a populist rhetoric, that energized the electorate he needed to win. Trump won cause he was better.