U.S. Supreme Court declines stay 4 clerk refusing to issue gay marriage certificates
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Here's my issue. I agree with this. I agree it's a sin against God's laws. I agree it's wrong in those contexts. Where I have an issue is with the definition of separation of church and state. If we agree that the feds don't have a right to tell us where, when, or how to go to church, or even to go at all, endorsing no religion yet allowing all that do no harm or break laws of the "state", how does this exempt an elected official from duty?
I do agree she is very courageous and I am glad she did this.
I do agree she is very courageous and I am glad she did this.
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Missing the point here. As are most of the others irrationally chastising this country clerk. Though some of the couples are not Christian, and therefore unrepentant for past fornication, adultery, or other sexual sin, they at least presented themselves to apply for a biblically recognized marriage: i.e., one man, one woman. Same-sex marriage is not mentioned in the Bible, but same-sex relationships are condemned as sin. While that sin can be forgiven, entering into a same-sex marriage is indicative of unrepentance among Christians and unbelief among the rest of the world. A Christian is of no obligation whatsoever to assist sin. Peter settled that when he and John were hauled before the Sanhedrin after his Temple Sermon.
Because of the witness of the Holy Spirit and His revelation to men of God's truth, we know what God expects of us. You unrighteously condemn this woman for doing what you should be doing.
County clerks don't give certificates of divorce. Neither do judges. There is no such thing in American society as a "certificate of divorce." We have "divorce decrees," and those are given through a pre-written court order -- usually authored by the plaintiff attorney in a divorce proceeding -- signed by the judge once agreement to dissolution, property disbursement, and child custody and visitation details are worked out. The decree details each of those aspects. The clerk simply records it in the county records.
The closing words of your post are too deliberately inflammatory to even acknowledge by commenting.
Acts 5, NASB
29 Peter and the other apostles replied: "We must obey God rather than men! 30 The God of our fathers raised Jesus from the dead--whom you had killed by hanging him on a tree.
31 God exalted him to his own right hand as Prince and Savior that he might give repentance and forgiveness of sins to Israel.
32 We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him."
29 Peter and the other apostles replied: "We must obey God rather than men! 30 The God of our fathers raised Jesus from the dead--whom you had killed by hanging him on a tree.
31 God exalted him to his own right hand as Prince and Savior that he might give repentance and forgiveness of sins to Israel.
32 We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him."
Because of the witness of the Holy Spirit and His revelation to men of God's truth, we know what God expects of us. You unrighteously condemn this woman for doing what you should be doing.
County clerks don't give certificates of divorce. Neither do judges. There is no such thing in American society as a "certificate of divorce." We have "divorce decrees," and those are given through a pre-written court order -- usually authored by the plaintiff attorney in a divorce proceeding -- signed by the judge once agreement to dissolution, property disbursement, and child custody and visitation details are worked out. The decree details each of those aspects. The clerk simply records it in the county records.
The closing words of your post are too deliberately inflammatory to even acknowledge by commenting.
Sure, as a Christian under God's law, she's under no moral obligation to like homosexuality, much less to condone it or facilitate it, but as an agent for a legally and politically secular country, she is under an obligation to carry out her duties as and when she's given them. Therein lies a conflict of interest that many would consider sufficient grounds for instant dismissal.
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No! It wasn't passed by the people or the legislatures/Congress. It was law "written" (illegally and unconstitutionally) by activist judges including five on the U.S. Supreme Court. Your statement would only be valid if States' Rights were applied and each state got to make a legislative or referendum decision.
While I don't agree for same sex marriage... If she was that uncomfortable, why couldn't she quit her job? She knew who she was working for when she first took the job, now all of a sudden, her Christian beliefs come to play? Her Christian beliefs didn't seem important enough to tell her boss she would rather resign than give a gay marriage certificate.. I know a lot of people on here may disagree, but just saying. I know a lot of you don't work for a Christian company... How far would you be willing to go with your beliefs? Would you quit your job over something you felt was unbiblical? Because I feel that's what she should have done.