U.S. Supreme Court declines stay 4 clerk refusing to issue gay marriage certificates
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But it doesn't agree with God when someone commits adultery. Or when someone divorces just because "they didn't get along." Hence, again, why we need to apply our beliefs in all things, like the Bible says. I know homosexuality is wrong. But let's not ignore the others, too. Which is what people are doing. And stop saying "Approve more sin because others sinned." Nowhere have I said that, or even have even come close to saying that, and you know that.
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So what about that God SAYS we are to obey OUR authorities over us? No one is FORCING Kim Davis to BECOME same sex married or to condone/approve same sex marriage of others. Her BOSS wants her to do her JOB and record the legal contracts brought to the county for record keeping purposes. She is refusing to do her JOB.
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You not being ask to give a license to commit adultery...you being ask to give a license to approve a marriage that suggest that folks are trying to do it Gods way...whether they do it or not is not the point. The point is your approving what is right and not approving what is evil...can you not see the difference?
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You are doing a good job jsr. I think you are correct that some people have just "compartmentalized" their religious view so much that this issue is beyond their thinking realm. I also think some people REALLY appreciate being challenged to think the issue thru fully so they CAN harmonize their worldview with the whole counsel of God. It is important to have tough discussions about current events. Be encouraged !!
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Mitspa, I can see you are thinking that the CLERK is actually serving as the personal APPROVER of any specific marriage... that is not the case... she is just the official who verifies the records meet legal requirements... she has no authority to APPROVE or DENY any sort of contract or transaction submitted for recording if it meets the legal requirements for being recorded..... AGAIN... her signature merely is PROOF the document is verified as meeting law requirements to be recorded.... NOT any sort of APPROVING of the actual contracted "item" being recorded.
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No that like saying because someone has sinned in the past, they can not do right in the future.... completely different from approving something that can never be accepted before God as right.
Marriage between a man and women is right before God and should be approved as a thing that is desired in a society ...now what folks do in that marriage is not the issue as a official ...its right for even the worst of sinners to try and do what God approves. if your suggesting that divorce and remarriage is not biblical...that's another debate and your wrong biblically in my view.
Marriage between a man and women is right before God and should be approved as a thing that is desired in a society ...now what folks do in that marriage is not the issue as a official ...its right for even the worst of sinners to try and do what God approves. if your suggesting that divorce and remarriage is not biblical...that's another debate and your wrong biblically in my view.
Divorce and remarriage is right in some instances... Don't try to say that I'm saying it's not. You know what I have been saying. You're perfectly okay with someone divorcing just for the heck of it, and then remarring again, as long it's between a man and woman. That is basically what you're saying.
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No Im saying that its biblically correct to approve what is right before God...such as marriage ..no matter if its a marrage between sinners..because its agrees with God ways. Its is never right to agree or approve something like gay marriage because it can never agree with God. If you marry two people man and woman...God can sanctify that marriage ...God can never sanctify homosexual perversion...can you not see that difference?
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Aagain...that's another debatable issue and even if you believe that's the biblical standard? It would never support approving such sexual deviants by pointing to other sin... so your point make no sense to me? And again I suggest that God can sanctify sinners in marriage...He could never sanctify this perversion ...and by pointing to one sin to approve another is ungodly in my view.
And your point makes no sense to me by saying something "Pointing one sin to approve another" I never came close to saying or even referencing.. Hence the very beginning where I say I'm not for gay marriage. NOT. Which means against. I don't know why I keep saying that to you when I've already said it once, and that should have been enough. And how is it another debatable issue when we're on the issue of marriage?
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That's exactly what you seem to be doing? whats your point if not to say this lady has to approve this sin..because she approves another in your view.... that the only logical conclusion of your point. I don't think this lady sees divorce and remarriage as you do...nor does does it matter as it relates to sinners because God can sanctify a sinner in marriage no matter how many times they been married (he could never sanctify this perversion under any circumstance)...so your point is just an attempt to approve one sin by pointing to another in my view.
By saying she should have quit her job because her boss wanted her to do something that was against her Biblical principles, that must mean I am approving sin... Just like how I say we need to uphold God's law in all things, and not pick and choose, that is me approving sin... You keep thinking that. Because you and I are going to continue doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. You know what that is? Insanity.