What is meant when people say 'guns don't kill people; people do'?

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Magenta

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Yeah that's a good point
You remember a couple years ago a teacher in France got his head chopped off or drawing a cartoon of Muhammad?
France is on the verge of civil war because hey particular demographic of people migrate there
and cause acts of violence. An armed guard at the school could have prevented that
Charlie Hebdo :cry:

On 7 January 2015, at about 11:30 a.m. CET local time, two French Muslim brothers, Saïd and Chérif Kouachi, forced their way into the offices of the French satirical weekly newspaper Charlie Hebdo in Paris. Armed with rifles and other weapons, they killed 12 people and injured 11 others. The gunmen identified themselves as belonging to the Islamic terrorist group al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, which took responsibility for the attack. Several related attacks followed in the Île-de-France region on 7–9 January 2015, including the Hypercacher kosher supermarket siege, where a terrorist killed four Jewish people. wiki source
 

Dude653

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Maybe they are, they are allowing terrorist to carry out successful missions to strip people of their freedom
France is on the verge of civil war right now because a particular demographic of people like to migrate their and commit acts of violence
So disarming a population is not a good idea also, Ukraine much?
 

I_am_Canadian

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It's actually fast food and would you like to supersize that? ;)

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Disclaimer: That is not me in that photo.
In truth it's the high fat content, and excessive salt and sugar in diets that killing people. Less fruits and vegetables, less nutrition and less exercise. It's not one single thing it's a variety of things.
 

I_am_Canadian

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France is on the verge of civil war right now because a particular demographic of people like to migrate their and commit acts of violence
So disarming a population is not a good idea also, Ukraine much?
That's just it people have free will to make decisions, and when people choose to do evil just and righteous people need to stand up and put an end to it.
 

JohnDB

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Sometimes the anti-gun crowd asks us "How many AR-15s did Jesus carry?"

My reply is:"Not enough to keep his own government from crucifying him"
 

Billyd

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Sometimes the anti-gun crowd asks us "How many AR-15s did Jesus carry?"

My reply is:"Not enough to keep his own government from crucifying him"
My reply is "all he needed to complete his mission."
 

iamsoandso

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a bullet is a stone being thrown....
 

I_am_Canadian

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a bullet is a stone being thrown....
Not so, a stone usually bounces off the skin leaving little more than maybe a scratch or bruise.

A bullet will enter the body, bounce around and then exit the body if it doesnt get stuck in the body causing serious injury or death.

2 small objects with 2 entirely different out comes.
 

Dude653

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Maybe sometime read some of Ayaan Hirsi Ali's books
She talks about how a particular demographic of people move to European countries, sexually assault the women. And pretty much nobody says anything because that would be "racist"... Of course it's handy for the sexual assaulters when no one is armed
 
Ar15’s are military weapons designed to kill people, period. Since Biden is the commander in chief of our military and the AR-15 is a military weapon, Biden could order these weapons to be barred from civilian use. Biden could by back the weapons and fine anyone who refuses to give them up.
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Handyman62

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Ar15’s are military weapons designed to kill people, period. Since Biden is the commander in chief of our military and the AR-15 is a military weapon, Biden could order these weapons to be barred from civilian use. Biden could by back the weapons and fine anyone who refuses to give them up.
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What good would that do?
 

Handyman62

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Ar15’s are military weapons designed to kill people, period. Since Biden is the commander in chief of our military and the AR-15 is a military weapon, Biden could order these weapons to be barred from civilian use. Biden could by back the weapons and fine anyone who refuses to give them up.
:)-
One other thing. The consumer grade AR-15 is not the same as the military version. The military version has selective fire and can fire like a machine gun or with the flip of a lever become a single shot. The consumer version is single shot only. (fires one round for every pull of the trigger)

And all guns have the capability to kill people that's why criminals love them so much and nothing the government tries to do will stop criminals from trying to use whatever they have to kill people. So you appear to be advocating that law abiding people shouldn't have the ability to protect themselves.
 
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ChristianTonyB

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Except for when a nation needs to repel invaders, rapid fire or concealed weaponry of any type in the hands of the general public is just insanity and selfishness at work. If anyone is that bad a shot that they need an automatic weapon to protect stock or land against pests, or to kill game for consumption, they need to sell their gun and get someone that is a good shot to do their shooting for them. Killing for sport is just plainly barbaric.
 

gb9

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Maybe sometime read some of Ayaan Hirsi Ali's books
She talks about how a particular demographic of people move to European countries, sexually assault the women. And pretty much nobody says anything because that would be "racist"... Of course it's handy for the sexual assaulters when no one is armed
yep, that is true. been going on for years.
 
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kaylagrl

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Ar15’s are military weapons designed to kill people, period. Since Biden is the commander in chief of our military and the AR-15 is a military weapon, Biden could order these weapons to be barred from civilian use. Biden could by back the weapons and fine anyone who refuses to give them up.
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As mentioned, ARs are not military weapons. The issue with gun control is that those trying to put it into law know nothing about guns. And that is a problem. There is a reason the Jews say "never again". And I hope if Biden tries to force this that the country will stand up and rebel. He has utterly no right to take guns away from responsible gun owners. ARs were already banned and it made almost no difference in crime and so they were allowed again under Bush. Funny how Bidens people are all about finding the "root" of the problem until it comes to this issue. Then the only answer is take away law abiding people's rights as crime climbs to it's highest in years.