When is it gonna be enough?
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In 2017, the NRA spent more than $5.1 million on lobbying,[FONT=Georgia, Times, serif] according to the Center for Responsive Politics' database. The previous year's total reached $3.2 million.[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times, serif]Money controls america no matter what side it comes from. Its time to take money out of politics totally. [/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times, serif]Money controls america no matter what side it comes from. Its time to take money out of politics totally. [/FONT]
5.1 million is chump change when it comes to lobbying.
Big pharma spent almost 280 million last year, the insurance industry spent 160 million last year.
The power of the NRA comes from it's ability to mobilize it's 5 million members and millions of other gun owners who aren't members.
Big pharma spent almost 280 million last year, the insurance industry spent 160 million last year.
The power of the NRA comes from it's ability to mobilize it's 5 million members and millions of other gun owners who aren't members.
I hadn't considered that people lay around on their couch and walk around the house with a gunbelt on...and my thought wasn't concerning if they were at home so much as when they weren't home. I don't see putting a gun on your nightstand while you sleep and then putting it in the safe when you wake and leave as such an odious or time-consuming burden.
Do you know how comfortable gunbelts are these days? 
Partial jests aside, you seem to miss my point. Opening such things up to legal/political activism will, with time, make carrying legally untenable by either denying the right outright or forcing it into one of those awful gray areas.
You may have a reasonable standard in your head, but you're not the one who will make that decision when big brother heeds your cry.
Now, if you don't want people carrying guns at all, that may be a path worth considering and it's an entirely different argument.
Partial jests aside, you seem to miss my point. Opening such things up to legal/political activism will, with time, make carrying legally untenable by either denying the right outright or forcing it into one of those awful gray areas.
You may have a reasonable standard in your head, but you're not the one who will make that decision when big brother heeds your cry.
Now, if you don't want people carrying guns at all, that may be a path worth considering and it's an entirely different argument.
Des was trying to point out that if you try to legislate "thou shalt have your firearms locked up when perchance you eschew using them" (wait... this isn't a KJVO gun thread, is it?)
THEN you have opened up a huge can of worms that says you could be arrested if you ever have a gun out of it's vault. It depends on how the law is written, and how it is interpreted by a liberal, gun-hating judge.
Writing laws that work correctly, and fairly, is NOT an easy thing to do, especially given all the activist judges that have been put in power by the left.
It seems easy to say "ban all assault weapons"... and instantly all AR-15's would be gone. Unfortunately, the FINE print in the definition of an "assault weapon" includes any autoloading firearm that has a detachable magazine, from .22 rimfire pistols to autoloader shotguns, and autoloading hunting rifles such as the Browning and Remington rifles.
No, don't worry.. we don't want to take away your guns.
THEN you have opened up a huge can of worms that says you could be arrested if you ever have a gun out of it's vault. It depends on how the law is written, and how it is interpreted by a liberal, gun-hating judge.
Writing laws that work correctly, and fairly, is NOT an easy thing to do, especially given all the activist judges that have been put in power by the left.
It seems easy to say "ban all assault weapons"... and instantly all AR-15's would be gone. Unfortunately, the FINE print in the definition of an "assault weapon" includes any autoloading firearm that has a detachable magazine, from .22 rimfire pistols to autoloader shotguns, and autoloading hunting rifles such as the Browning and Remington rifles.
No, don't worry.. we don't want to take away your guns.
this is true, we are no longer for the people by the we are for the corporation by the corporation. Government is corporates puppet. There is no longer a government. Corporations have divided the people and use the government as a punching bag instead of the people seeing who the real problem is they blame it on the government. when it is corporations controlling the government. Time to remove all lobbing money from government. And give the government back to the people again.