Who do you suspect are the members of the American Deep State?

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jameen

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Who among the people in US media, US military, US intelligence and ex government officials do you suspect are members of the American Deep State?
 

Susanna

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Who among the people in US media, US military, US intelligence and ex government officials do you suspect are members of the American Deep State?
None. It's just a conspiracy theory.
 

Ezekiel8

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Well it has all ready been confirmed that most of the mainstream media is. Obviously Google, Yahoo, Facebook, and Twitter are part of it, that has not only been confirmed, but they are pretty blunt about it anymore, they don't even try to pretend. Most all of the universities are. Most all of the TV Networks are. Most all of the internet is. Hollywood has been for a long time, but that's never exactly been a secret.


I would also say it's not even just the fact that the Deep State and their leftwing allies' exist in and of itself that is the problem. Their existence is really not that concerning or shocking because most of it is so transparent and obvious and has been known about even before President Trump was appointed to stump them. The deeper concern is the many nefarious agendas which the Deep State and their cohorts on the leftwing and in foreign governments and foreign religious power structures seek to perpetrate.
 

Huckleberry

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The "deepstate" simply refers to unelected high-level people within the government who
are actively pushing any agenda which goes against the law and/or will of the voters.
They exist, and it's nothing new, except that now it has a name.
 

Nehemiah6

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None. It's just a conspiracy theory.
Why would you say that? Are you trying to protect them? It is a standard ploy to dismiss an actual conspiracy by talking about a "conspiracy theory" -- as though it is in the realm of fantasy.

There is more than enough evidence that there was a conspiracy to delegitimize Donald Trump and create anarchy within the government. The very fact that Obama, Hillary, and all their crooked law-breaking associates are still on the loose is proof of the existence of a Deep State. The very fact that hardly anyone who is responsible for the total and constant attacks on Trump has been fired shows how deep it goes. The very fact that Mueller and his bogus investigation drags on and on at great expense shows that there is a Deep State conspiracy. As to naming names, one would have to be where the action is to name names. However, one could definitely name Jeff Sessions as one of those who is perhaps part of it and shielding the real culprits.
 
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Why would you say that? Are you trying to protect them? It is a standard ploy to dismiss an actual conspiracy by talking about a "conspiracy theory" -- as though it is in the realm of fantasy.

There is more than enough evidence that there was a conspiracy to delegitimize Donald Trump and create anarchy within the government. The very fact that Obama, Hillary, and all their crooked law-breaking associates are still on the loose is proof of the existence of a Deep State. The very fact that hardly anyone who is responsible for the total and constant attacks on Trump has been fired shows how deep it goes. The very fact that Mueller and his bogus investigation drags on and on at great expense shows that there is a Deep State conspiracy. As to naming names, one would have to be where the action is to name names. However, one could definitely name Jeff Sessions as one of those who is perhaps part of it and shielding the real culprits.
You have to prove the conspiracy theory, we don't have to disprove it. It will forever baffle me how people can really believe thousands of people are all conspiring together for no reason other than "because teh evuls mwa ha ha" without there ever being proof.
 

Huckleberry

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You have to prove the conspiracy theory, we don't have to disprove it. It will forever baffle me how people can really believe thousands of people are all conspiring together for no reason other than "because teh evuls mwa ha ha" without there ever being proof.
This is a pitifully weak and unbecomingly derisive strawman.
The so-called "deepstate" isn't "...thousands of people...all conspiring together..."
It's more likely small pockets of powerful, effective, and,
in some cases, impossible-to-fire bureaucrats independently
working in their own best interest and/or toward their own
ideology, contrary to what they're legally mandated to do.
The Russia-gate scandal has exposed this at the very top,
and the very top is what we call the tip of the iceberg.
I actually fear for President Trump, because he pissing
off a lot of bad people, I.e., parasitic swamp-dwellers.
 
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You have to prove the conspiracy theory, we don't have to disprove it. It will forever baffle me how people can really believe thousands of people are all conspiring together for no reason other than "because teh evuls mwa ha ha" without there ever being proof.
Good grief! Haven't you ever read Revelation?

Twenty five or thirty years ago there was this preacher on Christian television who would drone on and on about the Illuminati and it's history. It was interesting but I didn't pay much attention to it. Now I see what he was talking about.

If anybody wants to learn more just Google Adam Weishaupt. Start there. The Illuminati is so deeply embedded in the affairs of the world that they really don't need to fear you knowing what they're doing. Trump is awesome but according to Revelation he can only delay the inevitable.

The devil tempted Jesus to bow down and worship him in exchange for all the riches and glory of this world. He didn't do it but many people have. Some of us may not be able to identify with it, but there are those who just gotta own it all and will do whatever it takes so they can.

The truly amazing thing about this is it's hardly a humanistic move of man. It's 'spiritual' to it's very core. These are not people who are just simply in love with the world. They know and believe that the devil is real and they are convinced he is the true light, not Jesus.
 

Nehemiah6

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You have to prove the conspiracy theory, we don't have to disprove it.
The proof is already there. The bogus FISA warrant is sufficient proof to bring all the tentacles of the Deep State together. And there is probably much, more more -- electronic evidence which was deleted, and documents which were shredded by the guilty parties. All of a sudden thousands of emails were "lost". The problem is that the criminals are being allowed to investigate themselves while they create bogus investigations to divert attention. And the media are deliberately shielding the culprits while they attack Mr. Trump to divert attention from a serious situation.
 

Susanna

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Why would you say that? Are you trying to protect them? It is a standard ploy to dismiss an actual conspiracy by talking about a "conspiracy theory" -- as though it is in the realm of fantasy.

There is more than enough evidence that there was a conspiracy to delegitimize Donald Trump and create anarchy within the government. The very fact that Obama, Hillary, and all their crooked law-breaking associates are still on the loose is proof of the existence of a Deep State. The very fact that hardly anyone who is responsible for the total and constant attacks on Trump has been fired shows how deep it goes. The very fact that Mueller and his bogus investigation drags on and on at great expense shows that there is a Deep State conspiracy. As to naming names, one would have to be where the action is to name names. However, one could definitely name Jeff Sessions as one of those who is perhaps part of it and shielding the real culprits.
Is this what you call evidence?

You think this would hold up in a court of law? Or anywhere else for that matter...

Seriously, if you want to throw out allegations concerning deep state...at least provide some sort of evidence. This just isn't good enough.
 
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Who among the people in US media, US military, US intelligence and ex government officials do you suspect are members of the American Deep State?
All of them, and there are cameras watching me in my room and wherever I go.
I know "the man" is out to get me, and one day I will turn around quickly enough to spot him.

Unfortunately almost all schizophrenics believe this. It is called paranoia.
If you live in a secret state, like Iran or China, it may also be true.
If you live in North Korea if they think you are just trying to leave the country
they will put you in a slave camp, along with your family, where you will starve
and live like a totally destitute individuals.

What our society is doing is trying to sell products to people and find their
target markets, which is corrupting in a way but not in a global conspiracy reality.
If believers spent time learning how to love and serve others, the world would be
a different place.
 
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Just as a side observation, our societies are founded on what happens to
most families. Food, shelter, education, income, holidays, work.
Get that right and your society will be fairly stable, get it wrong and you
will end up in revolution and civil war.
 
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All of them, and there are cameras watching me in my room and wherever I go.
I know "the man" is out to get me, and one day I will turn around quickly enough to spot him.

Unfortunately almost all schizophrenics believe this. It is called paranoia.
If you live in a secret state, like Iran or China, it may also be true.
If you live in North Korea if they think you are just trying to leave the country
they will put you in a slave camp, along with your family, where you will starve
and live like a totally destitute individuals.

What our society is doing is trying to sell products to people and find their
target markets, which is corrupting in a way but not in a global conspiracy reality.
If believers spent time learning how to love and serve others, the world would be
a different place.

I have to add that my television has been saying a lot of bad things about me behind my back.
 

Nehemiah6

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Is this what you call evidence?
Looks like you know nothing about how that ILLEGAL FISA warrant was obtained, or how Obama ILLEGALLY monitored Trump and his campaign. And that is only the tip of the iceberg. Had the media been doing their jobs honestly this was bigger than Watergate. But I guess you would rather believe the Fake News purveyors and their lies about everything. Even after they are caught out in their lies they are shameless and continue on with their nonsense. But many people are waking up, and if you want the truth, you would do some digging on your own.