Who is voting for Trump again?

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kaylagrl

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.. is a multi time bankrupt huckster.

.. grabs women by their genitals.

Let's open all the books. Let's see all the tax payers money that has gone to cover the sins of all the politicians, both sides. The same with whatever country you're in. He was set up, having a private conversation. Is it right? No. But does it happen in most conversations with men and women, you bet ya.


.. eats well-done steak with ketchup

Is an issue because.....


.. denies climate change

ITA, climate is a scam and a tax grab. No one is allowed to disagree, that's not science, that's a religion. Data is being forced to fit the narrative.



.. has many affairs

So did Bill Clinton and Kennedy and probably others we don't even know about. When Clinton did it people said what he did in his personal life was his business and had no bearing on his running the country. So what's good for the goose...

.. doesnt like releasing his tax returns

No law saying he has to. No ones business. If he did he'd be ripped apart by MSM.


.. treats his wife and daughter like chattel

Well that's your opinion, you're entitled to it.

.. has horrible hair

Possibly the worse offense of all....

.. is a creep

Was duly elected by the American people. So all you mentioned above doesn't matter. They put him in office. Whether they do again remains to be seen. It rests on whether this country wants socialism/communism or love their freedoms.
 

calibob

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Are we not to be good stewards towards each other, and take responsibility for the land we occupy?
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Ecclesiastes 7:16-18
 

calibob

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Abortion, gay marriage, socialism, Israel, all those opinions are not my own, they come from the Bible. And therefore I vote accordingly.
Capitalism beyond the benefit of Christian ideals. Turning away from helping strangers in our land. Turning our backs on the sick or the poor. Abusing the planet, supporting Sorcery, and worship of the created instead of the creator are equally as bad. What's most the most important rules of life if not: Love the Lord thy God with all of thy heart mind and soul and loving our neighbors as ourselves.

If I think both sides are wrong why should I vote for either? God is my judge.
 

kaylagrl

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Capitalism beyond the benefit of Christian ideals. Turning away from helping strangers in our land.

True capitalism is the best system the world has ever seen. I have no problem helping the needy. But NOT illegal immigrants. I came to this country LEGALLY. I went to lawyers, I stood in line, I didn't jump the line. I and my family had to have a sponsor. We were not allowed to take any gov't help or handouts. We weren't allowed to have a drivers license until we had proper papers for each level. When I got married I wasn't yet a permanent resident and last minute I had to go to the next state and have a pastor friend marry us outside the courthouse. So why should thousands of people be able to just walk into the country and get free healthcare and all benefits?! No, come legally and wait your TURN!!


Turning our backs on the sick or the poor.

That is a ridiculous comment. I'm sorry. This country is the most generous country in the world. And as I said,I'm not American. They are first in every disaster. They give to help the poor all over the world. We have missionaries, charities, orphanages, all over the world helping those in need and also those at home. If you think "free" healthcare is the answer please move to my home country for 5 yrs, trust me, you'll change your mind.


Abusing the planet,

This planet is temporary. Our aim is to see people saved and delivered. I don't see Jesus as the tree hugging type. That is not what is important.


supporting Sorcery, and worship of the created instead of the creator are equally as bad. What's most the most important rules of life if not: Love the Lord thy God with all of thy heart mind and soul and loving our neighbors as ourselves.

Yes,but loving your neighbors has nothing to do with letting illegals into the country. We have to have borders.

If I think both sides are wrong why should I vote for either? God is my judge.

I'll tell you why you should vote. You should vote because people fought and died for your right to do so. Hong Kong has thousands and thousands in the streets right now crying out for freedom, holding American flags singing the anthem. There are people around the world who would love to have our freedoms, would love to have free speech, would love to read a Bible without fear of having their head cut off. Men and women put their lives on the line, they are maimed, killed for our freedoms. How ungrateful can we be to sit at home and put up our feet and not vote. Voting is a duty, and it ought to be an honor. Canadian out.
 

Susanna

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It borders trolling when a person is labeled anti Christian when not voting Trump.

Trump is not God.

He’s a loudmouth.

Sorry Trumpsters, but your trolling won’t make me vote for him again😛😜😝🤗.
 

kaylagrl

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It borders trolling when a person is labeled anti Christian when not voting Trump.

Trump is not God.

He’s a loudmouth.

Sorry Trumpsters, but your trolling won’t make me vote for him😛😜😝🤗.

If you don't wish to vote, that's up to you. But if on the other hand you're voting with the Dem agenda then yes, I have to wonder how one could call themselves a Christian and hold with Dem. values. No one has been able to explain it to me yet. I will always stand up and speak for what I feel is right. If that's trolling so be it.


p.s. You and I both know, sometimes it takes a loud mouth to get the job done. ;)
 

Susanna

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I’m an American veteran.

I was an accomplice in defending this country and our beliefs.

We do not stand for living in fear and rejecting our neighbors.

We are the land of the free, not the land of an oppressive government which is now showing its ugly face.

The current administration is the most pro federal government I’ve ever seen.
 

Susanna

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If you don't wish to vote, that's up to you. But if on the other hand you're voting with the Dem agenda then yes, I have to wonder how one could call themselves a Christian and hold with Dem. values. No one has been able to explain it to me yet. I will always stand up and speak for what I feel is right. If that's trolling so be it.


p.s. You and I both know, sometimes it takes a loud mouth to get the job done. ;)
No, I don’t vote for the Democratic agenda.

I vote against the president.

He’s not taking his strategic responsibility seriously.
 

kaylagrl

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I’m an American veteran.

I was an accomplice in defending this country and our beliefs.
Right, I totally respect that, as I'm pretty sure I've said before.


We do not stand for living in fear and rejecting our neighbors.

Can you explain what you mean by this? It would help me answer better if I know what you mean exactly.


We are the land of the free, not the land of an oppressive government which is now showing its ugly face.

So you don't think a socialist/communist gov't would be oppressive. I think you would understand this
more than the average voter.



The current administration is the most pro federal government I’ve ever seen.

Again, can you elaborate?
 

kaylagrl

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No, I don’t vote for the Democratic agenda.

I vote against the president.

He’s not taking his strategic responsibility seriously.

I'm sorry. It's not possible to vote against him without putting the other in office. You do what you wish, but I'm praying the vast majority will vote against socialist/communists agenda of the progressives.
 

Susanna

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Kayla, I totally respect your opinion on the matter.

But I don’t think the current administration is fully aware of the strategic policies of foreign, and hostile, governments.

We don’t need to upset our allies. None of them. We are not a country that doesn’t need any help from our allies. We are more dependent on them than the current administration apparently realizes.
 

p_rehbein

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I'm sorry. It's not possible to vote against him without putting the other in office. You do what you wish, but I'm praying the vast majority will vote against socialist/communists agenda of the progressives.
This argument is an old one, and, BTW, used by BOTH sides...…… I do not buy it, and never will. My not voting for Trump will not get the Dem Candidate elected. It is NOT a vote for the Dems, just as someone not voting for the Dems is NOT a vote for Trump.

A "No" vote is a vote......... When the Candidates are just two sides of the same coin, a vote for either is a vote for evil IMO.....

The most important people to vote for are the Congressional Candidates. Both House and Senate. They are the ones who really determine what happens with our Country.

President has some power, but it is offset by the Congress.........

So, folks should be talking about which Congressional Candidate they are voting for IMO.
 

calibob

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No, I don’t vote for the Democratic agenda.

I vote against the president.

He’s not taking his strategic responsibility seriously.
I'm not contradicting you but I believe Gen. Patton was asked once; "if he was caught between the Bolsheviks and the Nazis, in which direction would he attack?" Both I believe he said.
 

Susanna

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I'm not contradicting you but I believe Gen. Patton was asked once; "if he was caught between the Bolsheviks and the Nazis, in which direction would he attack?" Both I believe he said.
I think it’s high time we get a chance to say “NO!” to a candidate. Not only be abstaining from voting for that particular candidate.
 

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I’m an American veteran.

I was an accomplice in defending this country and our beliefs.

We do not stand for living in fear and rejecting our neighbors.

We are the land of the free, not the land of an oppressive government which is now showing its ugly face.

The current administration is the most pro federal government I’ve ever seen.
I'm an American veteran too. Thank you for your service in supporting and defending the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic...
 

Susanna

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I'm an American veteran too. Thank you for your service in supporting and defending the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic...
Thank you for YOUR service, Sir❤️.
 

calibob

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I think it’s high time we get a chance to say “NO!” to a candidate. Not only be abstaining from voting for that particular candidate.
Put NO on the ballots? I'm all in. Double down. If I lose we all lose. Choosing between the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.
 

Susanna

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Put NO on the ballots? I'm all in. Double down. If I lose we all lose. Choosing between the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.
It sure is.

Both sides of the aisle are still feeding that grumpy old “lesser of two evils”-dog, but like you say, they’re still evil.
 

calibob

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I'm sorry. It's not possible to vote against him without putting the other in office. You do what you wish, but I'm praying the vast majority will vote against socialist/communists agenda of the progressives.
That's :poop:! Do we have to polarize into an us verses them mentality? Dosn't the Bible say; "Come let us reason together."

Is Afghanistan suddenly our friends and Mexico and Central America our enemies? The narco terrorists are our enemies. Who do you think the refugees are running from?

Since war has become a fiscal necessity and since a great part of our economy thrives on the Military Industrial Complex that Ike warned about and JFK tried to disarm. Why help our enemies and ignore our neighbors? I don't get it.
 

kaylagrl

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That's :poop:! Do we have to polarize into an us verses them mentality? Dosn't the Bible say; "Come let us reason together."


You sure do know how to take a Scripture out of context.Listen, there is no reasoning with progressive socialists/communists, read some history. Sorry, reason together is not happening with people who think there is nothing wrong with abortion, transgender/gay marriage, socialism etc.

Is Afghanistan suddenly our friends and Mexico and Central America our enemies? The narco terrorists are our enemies. Who do you think the refugees are running from?

Illegals coming across the border say they are coming for better jobs. If they are truly seeking asylum and come legally they are allowed into the country.

Since war has become a fiscal necessity and since a great part of our economy thrives on the Military Industrial Complex that Ike warned about and JFK tried to disarm. Why help our enemies and ignore our neighbors? I don't get it.

Ike and JFK were before my time. But I'll tell you JFK would be a republican if he were alive today. He was a member of the NRA and was against abortion. We aren't ignoring our neighbors, we just don't believe in taking in every illegal alien that crosses into the country.