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To respond to OP...
If Liberal = Pro-abortion, Pro-drugs, Pro-Homosexual Marriage, etc. etc.
I really don't see how one can be a Christian and continue to support sin. Either that person is newly born again and needs to work out their faith, a backslider, or a hypocrite.
If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus: That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; And be renewed in the spirit of your mind; And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
- Ephesians 4:21-24
However, both the left and right don't cover the up and down. Both sides need less authoritarianism and more libertarianism. I can be personally opposed to something and not force an opposition to it in public policy. It is the role of the church and not the state to change the minds and hearts of people to morality and Jesus Christ.
“I tell people, I want you to be free to do anything you want, but I don’t want you to do anything you can do. And so I think liberty requires virtue. We didn’t get rid of self-governance, but we also didn’t get rid of our religious faith and tradition. And so I think we get too caught up in contemporary times, talking about separation of church and state, that we misunderstand it such that, oh, it’s no big deal if we have a bunch of hoodlums with no beliefs running our country. Government can’t save you, but it doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have people who believe in salvation — who believe in goodness and virtue and right and wrong — in government. If you don’t have those people and you don’t have that throughout the conscience of the public, you have a disaster. You can’t have a free society if you don’t have virtue.” - Rand Paul
And yes, I really like Rand Paul. I wish the media would give him more than 5 minutes so that people can actually hear what he has to say.
If Liberal = Pro-abortion, Pro-drugs, Pro-Homosexual Marriage, etc. etc.
I really don't see how one can be a Christian and continue to support sin. Either that person is newly born again and needs to work out their faith, a backslider, or a hypocrite.
If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus: That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; And be renewed in the spirit of your mind; And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
- Ephesians 4:21-24
However, both the left and right don't cover the up and down. Both sides need less authoritarianism and more libertarianism. I can be personally opposed to something and not force an opposition to it in public policy. It is the role of the church and not the state to change the minds and hearts of people to morality and Jesus Christ.
“I tell people, I want you to be free to do anything you want, but I don’t want you to do anything you can do. And so I think liberty requires virtue. We didn’t get rid of self-governance, but we also didn’t get rid of our religious faith and tradition. And so I think we get too caught up in contemporary times, talking about separation of church and state, that we misunderstand it such that, oh, it’s no big deal if we have a bunch of hoodlums with no beliefs running our country. Government can’t save you, but it doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have people who believe in salvation — who believe in goodness and virtue and right and wrong — in government. If you don’t have those people and you don’t have that throughout the conscience of the public, you have a disaster. You can’t have a free society if you don’t have virtue.” - Rand Paul
And yes, I really like Rand Paul. I wish the media would give him more than 5 minutes so that people can actually hear what he has to say.
Considering you and others are attacking me non-stop I find your 'this is a liberal trick" statement to be highly ironic. especially since no one who knows me would ever use that label to describe me. Like I said I was being petty and I apologized profusely.
I don't care how long has been here, they are accusing without evidence and if they had it the moderators would be kicking me out for being a sock puppet. If your line of reasoning is:
"It's true because I believe it to be so because it hasn't been proven untrue", then you have a very gullible and uncritical mind. When a persons honesty and character are being maligned the burden of proof is on the accuser not the accused.
How would you like it if someone here said "Kaylagrl gets pregnant on purpose just so she can have as many abortions as possible" and everyone started attacking and goading you. This is a disgusting accusation so you reply it isn't true, only to have the other forum users go "Well, I like this person better and they have been here longer so I'm going to assume it is true until you can prove it isn't". You would be pretty frustrated and livid because proving it isn't true on an online forum is next to impossible. Would you like to be given the benefit of the doubt or would you like to be held to the same standards you hold me?
I don't care how long has been here, they are accusing without evidence and if they had it the moderators would be kicking me out for being a sock puppet. If your line of reasoning is:
"It's true because I believe it to be so because it hasn't been proven untrue", then you have a very gullible and uncritical mind. When a persons honesty and character are being maligned the burden of proof is on the accuser not the accused.
How would you like it if someone here said "Kaylagrl gets pregnant on purpose just so she can have as many abortions as possible" and everyone started attacking and goading you. This is a disgusting accusation so you reply it isn't true, only to have the other forum users go "Well, I like this person better and they have been here longer so I'm going to assume it is true until you can prove it isn't". You would be pretty frustrated and livid because proving it isn't true on an online forum is next to impossible. Would you like to be given the benefit of the doubt or would you like to be held to the same standards you hold me?
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