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OneOfHis

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Absolutely not, those are demonic cults, may the 144,000 saints keep their charge and pour for them the wine of God that makes Babylon's kids full of fear and fury to be drunk and stumble before the sword of the Lord that has been loosed from its scabbard to fly across the face of the earth and find them.
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Do you think there will only be 144,000 saved? If so you are confused about the tribes....
 
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Ha ha ha. Sorry, nobody "becomes" an ethnic Israelite. You are born an ethnic Israelite.
I was born a gentile and I was twice born as a Christian. An ethnic Israelite can be twice born as a Christian also. But a gentile can never ever becoming ethnic Israelite.
Oh the mystery of Romans 11!
 

OneOfHis

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Ha ha ha. Sorry, nobody "becomes" an ethnic Israelite. You are born an ethnic Israelite.
I was born a gentile and I was twice born as a Christian. An ethnic Israelite can be twice born as a Christian also. But a gentile can never ever becoming ethnic Israelite.
You can understand him?

I think I am confused by pretty much everything he just said. Sounds like the stuff you hear after a long hike down a rabbit's hole.
 
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Do you think there will only be 144,000 saved? If so you are confused about the tribes....
Those are the saints of the Apocalypse prophecy, others will be saved too, but they get their reward, they're the special forces of God in this long spiritual war.
 

cv5

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The life of Jesus and Paul and who knows, maybe John the Baptist don't sound like modern day single life. Having the gift of singleness isn't an easy life, there will be danger involved with such emphasis on the kingdom and winning souls. The gift is not for a life of ease. Peter even had a wife but willingly lost his life for the kingdom. How much more someone who doesn't need marriage? What am I missing?
Danger you say? I have been in danger for my life and many other another dangers several times since my repentance and conversion. The persecution has always been there it just rises and falls. And at its highest pinnacle it almost killed me more than once. I could tell you tales that would just have you sweating bullets you wouldn't believe it if I told you.
 

OneOfHis

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Oh the mystery of Romans 11!
Maybe start a bit earlier ?

Romans 9

I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,

2 That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart.

3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:

4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

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30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.

31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.

32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

Rom 10

Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
 
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I've never known of anyone to go around boasting that they are virgins or happily single. It's since joining CC that I've seen it.
There was a time when I would say I'm happily single. But I am not happy because I am single. I'm just happy because I'm happy.
 

cv5

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Oh the mystery of Romans 11!
Oh yes a lot of people are sidetracked by a poor exegesis of the chapter. You'll have to hit the books read some good commentaries and come back in two or three years and tell us how it worked out for you.

The bottom line is that Christians never become Israelites. But Israelites can become Christians.
And when Paul is speaking of Israelites he is always talking about ethnic Israelites as is Peter as is James as is the book of Hebrews.
 
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Maybe start a bit earlier ?

Romans 9

I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,

2 That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart.

3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:

4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

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30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.

31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.

32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

Rom 10

Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
Sure those are good to the point too, maybe interesting for one of the bible discussion section topics since it seems they getting kinda stale over there.
 
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Oh yes a lot of people are sidetracked by a poor exegesis of the chapter. You'll have to hit the books read some good commentaries and come back in two or three years and tell us how it worked out for you.

The bottom line is that Christians never become Israelites. But Israelites can become Christians.
And when Paul is speaking of Israelites he is always talking about ethnic Israelites as is Peter as is James as is the book of Hebrews.
Lol I don't need the commentaries, it's pretty plainly written. I like the analogy to the trees, this analogy is also found in the writings of the prophets, off the top of my head without searching I think it is Ezekiel that explores this a lot. It is the family tree, many of the Israelites were broken the hell off of the family tree and thrown in the pit reserved to be kindling in the fires. Because of Lord Jesus and his holy Apostles, such as Paul, the children of the wicked heathens/gentiles whom all fell into paganism shortly after the Flood and worshipped demons and all sorts of idols and madness got the chance to hear the Gospel and be grafted into the family of Israel while mysteriously many of the Israelites turned against their own king and were carried off by their Gentile demonic lovers into captivity across the four corners of the world, blind for some time while the times are filled to their measures.
 

Lynx

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What I want to do is help other singles who have been told their lot is the best there is when it isn't. Rampant singleness is hurting churches and society. People like you bullying them into remaining single is disgusting. I heard people muddying clear scripture for decades, I don't know what their agenda was but they weren't helping by abusing the Bible's clear teaching on singleness. Single people do not need to be told they have it best. Marriage is the grace of life, not being single. I want the best for singles and that is to get out there and look for a wife or do whatever they need to do to be found of a husband.

I'ts proper to be content, but even that is misused to make singles feel guilty about wanting something better.
Bullying? Not at all. If you find a wife you find a good thing. I personally have the best reason in the world to believe that I will someday be married.

In the meantime I am happy where I am and I am not in any hurry, and I resent it when people try to twist scripture to claim I am not in God's will as a single Christian. Rushing to marry just for the sake of being married is every bit as much a mistake as struggling to remain single just for the sake of being single.
 

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Lol I don't need the commentaries, it's pretty plainly written. I like the analogy to the trees, this analogy is also found in the writings of the prophets, off the top of my head without searching I think it is Ezekiel that explores this a lot. It is the family tree, many of the Israelites were broken the hell off of the family tree and thrown in the pit reserved to be kindling in the fires. Because of Lord Jesus and his holy Apostles, such as Paul, the children of the wicked heathens/gentiles whom all fell into paganism shortly after the Flood and worshipped demons and all sorts of idols and madness got the chance to hear the Gospel and be grafted into the family of Israel while mysteriously many of the Israelites turned against their own king and were carried off by their Gentile demonic lovers into captivity across the four corners of the world, blind for some time while the times are filled to their measures.
You peeps should take this to the Bible Discussion Forum.
Theres lots of others there that would love to be apart of your debate..er um.... conversation. ;)
 

Lynx

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There was a time when I would say I'm happily single. But I am not happy because I am single. I'm just happy because I'm happy.
Exactly! it's not because I am single or because I am married, it is because I have learned to be content.

When I get married I imagine I will be happy then too. But I'm not going to be miserable just because that has not yet happened.
 

Magenta

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You peeps should take this to the Bible Discussion Forum.
Theres lots of others there that would love to be apart of your debate..er um.... conversation. ;)
Because singles never argue? Or debate? Or criticize each other? :oops:
 
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You're certainly welcome to your opinion, but it is not biblically sound.
Not my opinion.

Mark 10:1-12

1 And he arose from thence, and cometh into the coasts of Judaea by the farther side of Jordan: and the people resort unto him again; and, as he was wont, he taught them again.

2 And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him.

3 And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you?

4 And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away.

5 And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept.

6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;

8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.

9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

10 And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter.

11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.

12 And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.

This is fornication:

1 Corinthians 6:16
16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.


This is the spirit of Babylon and her children, this is their kingdom and their nature and how to identify them:

Revelation 17:1-6

1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.

6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
 

Dino246

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Not my opinion.

Mark 10:1-12

1 And he arose from thence, and cometh into the coasts of Judaea by the farther side of Jordan: and the people resort unto him again; and, as he was wont, he taught them again.

2 And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him.

3 And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you?

4 And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away.

5 And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept.

6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;

8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.

9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

10 And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter.

11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.

12 And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.

This is fornication:

1 Corinthians 6:16
16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.


This is the spirit of Babylon and her children, this is their kingdom and their nature and how to identify them:

Revelation 17:1-6

1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.

6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
Your quotations don't support your assertion... at all.

This isn't the Bible Discussion Forum; if you want to debate the matter, take it there. I won't respond further in this forum.
 
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Your quotations don't support your assertion... at all.

This isn't the Bible Discussion Forum; if you want to debate the matter, take it there. I won't respond further in this forum.
Yes they do, fornication the word itself means whoredom, to have more than one partner, to be a brothel. Look at society, they belong to Babylon, they drank from the contents of her cup. They don't really know what it's like to really be single because they spat in the face of love and God.
 

Dino246

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Yes they do, fornication the word itself means whoredom, to have more than one partner, to be a brothel. Look at society, they belong to Babylon, they drank from the contents of her cup. They don't really know what it's like to really be single because they spat in the face of love and God.
Take it to the BDF. I'll be happy to rip your argument to shreds there.
 
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Take it to the BDF. I'll be happy to rip your argument to shreds there.
There's no argument to be made and it is topical this is very important for both the kingdom of God and his saints and the kingdom of Babylon and Satan's sluts and the Apocalypse. Are the true singles doomed? Nope, the false ones that march for Satan and have drank the cup of Babylon which is full of fornications are the ones that are doomed.

Revelation 18:1-8

1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.

2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.